He wasn't wrong. Every post talks about how bad talent level Flood left.
HC Schiano literally just said the same thing about the players he inherited.
Except he waited years until the players were gone before bashing them.
Chris Ash Reflects on His Time at Rutgers
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He wasn't wrong. Every post talks about how bad talent level Flood left.
HC Schiano literally just said the same thing about the players he inherited.
Except he waited years until the players were gone before bashing them.
I finally got to read this article, haven't read any of the responses yet because I wanted my own raw reactions.
Here's a link from MSN that's not behind a paywall:
Chris Ash reflects on Rutgers, his NFL future and his biggest coaching regret | Politi
I'm sorry, but there is no justifying the cluster#### he created. He had a helluva lot more support than Flood did (and I'm not defending Flood in the slightest), but refused to work with what he had (players, boosters, traditions, etc.) instead insisting on doing it the "Ohio State" way.
Yeah, player hydration and the cute little new knight's head design.
One name: Drew Mehringer
Really? How about getting a line to give the QB more than a second to throw the ball? How about getting an OC that doesn't cry? Geeze!
Here's a link from MSN that's not behind a paywall:
Chris Ash reflects on Rutgers, his NFL future and his biggest coaching regret | Politi
I'm sorry, but there is no justifying the cluster#### he created. He had a helluva lot more support than Flood did (and I'm not defending Flood in the slightest), but refused to work with what he had (players, boosters, traditions, etc.) instead insisting on doing it the "Ohio State" way.
Yeah, player hydration and the cute little new knight's head design.
One name: Drew Mehringer
Really? How about getting a line to give the QB more than a second to throw the ball? How about getting an OC that doesn't cry? Geeze!
Speaking of our wonder boy OC:I finally got to read this article, haven't read any of the responses yet because I wanted my own raw reactions.
Here's a link from MSN that's not behind a paywall:
Chris Ash reflects on Rutgers, his NFL future and his biggest coaching regret | Politi
I'm sorry, but there is no justifying the cluster#### he created. He had a helluva lot more support than Flood did (and I'm not defending Flood in the slightest), but refused to work with what he had (players, boosters, traditions, etc.) instead insisting on doing it the "Ohio State" way.
Yeah, player hydration and the cute little new knight's head design.
One name: Drew Mehringer
Really? How about getting a line to give the QB more than a second to throw the ball? How about getting an OC that doesn't cry? Geeze!
https://goducks.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/drew-mehringer/5009
Well that’s the point. You don’t say something like that in an intro press conference considering you’re going to have to rely on a lot of those guys in the first year or two. It was a lightweight maneuver. Probably a Freudian slip
I love this from Drew’s bio
If you are an OC and your highest achievement is having one offensive lineman win honorable all conference?
That’s basically an admission of sucking
Rutgers (2016)
Mehringer moved to Texas after spending the 2016 season as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Rutgers where, at age 28, he was the youngest play caller in the Power Five conferences and worked to install a new offensive system under first-year head coach Chris Ash. Offensive lineman Tariq Cole earned All-Big Ten Honorable Mention accolades.
If you are an OC and your highest achievement is having one offensive lineman win honorable all conference?
That’s basically an admission of sucking
Rutgers (2016)
Mehringer moved to Texas after spending the 2016 season as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Rutgers where, at age 28, he was the youngest play caller in the Power Five conferences and worked to install a new offensive system under first-year head coach Chris Ash. Offensive lineman Tariq Cole earned All-Big Ten Honorable Mention accolades.
Favorite part of that quote is “worked to install a new offensive system”. I’m assuming whomever edited the bio changed it from “installed” to “worked to install.” In case anyone down the road fact checked it of course.
THE HUNT !!!!! 😂🤣😅😂🤣
And how could we forget: "Fence The Garden"
that is one thing I will always respect about Greg in that he does some things with tremendous class. I do really like, appreciate, and respect that about him
spot...fking....on.......I finally got to read this article, haven't read any of the responses yet because I wanted my own raw reactions.
Here's a link from MSN that's not behind a paywall:
Chris Ash reflects on Rutgers, his NFL future and his biggest coaching regret | Politi
I'm sorry, but there is no justifying the cluster#### he created. He had a helluva lot more support than Flood did (and I'm not defending Flood in the slightest), but refused to work with what he had (players, boosters, traditions, etc.) instead insisting on doing it the "Ohio State" way.
Yeah, player hydration and the cute little new knight's head design.
One name: Drew Mehringer
Really? How about getting a line to give the QB more than a second to throw the ball? How about getting an OC that doesn't cry? Geeze!
they guy blows and is lucky he's in a profession that is heavily entrenched in 'current pool of' approach
Several people here have used the word "clueless" to describe Ash. That was certainly the impression that he conveyed. He certainly didn't know how to prepare a team to play a game. In that, he reminded a lot of Greg Robinson, who was at Syracuse from about 2005 - 2009. I listened to his postgame interview on their radio network shortly after coming out of the Dome, where the RU fans were celebrating another clobbering of the Orange. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. It was as though he and I had watched completely different games. He didn't seem to know what had just happened to his team. Ash often didn't seem to know either and neither of them had a clue about what to do to fix things.
RU lost a significant portion of its fan base during his years on the Banks.
RU lost a significant portion of its fan base during his years on the Banks.
clueless was appropriate
first post game discussion; halftime adjustment are overrated
knew it right there and said as much
Though, he did inherit some good OL, good RB’s and a few other players he basically just wouldn’t play because they weren’t his guys.
I think Grant and Austin were the only two inherited players Ash ever showed any serious respect for.
Joe P.
Yep, just basically kept bringing in guys to replace Martin and Hicks.
Antonio Pierce cut Ash loose as DB coach when he took the head coaching job at the Raiders. Now Ash is a scout for the Jaguars.
Next stop for Ash:
rutgerswire.usatoday.com
Next stop for Ash:
Former Rutgers football head coach Chris Ash is back in the NFL
Former Rutgers football head coach Chris Ash is back in the NFL.
rutgerswire.usatoday.com
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poor jags
amazing how the coaches circle is just regurgitated failures
amazing how the coaches circle is just regurgitated failures
Not sure how this is anything good in regard to Ash- dude went from a B1G HC to a scout...
I don't see it as good for him at all but my point is why? Jags could pull plenty of other persons than a guy that hasn't shown any ability to really measure talent. at OSU, he had his choice of studs and I feel he underachieved (day too for that matter)
Ash was guaranteed $11M, got fired and got a new job for $800K which meant he wound up getting $10.2M from RU. While $10M over 3 years (plus some games in year 4) ain't making anybody rich, unless he has a really dumb financial advisor, I figure he'll be okay.
OSU won a NC with Ash as co-DC. Can't really achieve higher than that in CFB, no?
To me, rich is a $250M+ well-invested and safely diversified net worth. Below that is comfy.
I define rich as being able to live a lavish lifestyle off less than half one’s annual investment earnings without working at all. That way, the investment keeps growing forever.
$10M at 6% is $600k. Meaning annual spending, to start out, is capped at $300K. That ain’t rich. Not gonna fund a lavish lifestyle with $300K. It’s middle-class.
At $250M, annual income is $15M, spending capped at $7.5M. That’s lavish.
He knew defense. But his defensive schemes were so complicated few could understand it. I wish him well, he was extremely green when he was hired here. I still think it was corny to have our kick off team copy OSU's arm sway, as if to say we are just as good as OSU.
In the US, people with more than ~ $5M in assets are the top 0.3% of the population.
But okay. You're free to define rich however you want.
Ash was a good football guy - he just never should have been hired by a basketball AD who thought a DC from Ohio St was a genius move.
These days people realize defensive coaches (CFB and Pro) struggle with offenses and should not automatically be at the top of anyone's list for HC.
That makes them rare, not rich. To me wealth isn’t a relative thing. It’s a financial state.
But yes, everybody is free to define it however they wish.
It's been discussed to death there that Hobbs did not "hire" Ash. Sure, you could state it that way if you want, but Ash's deal was basically done by Greg Brown and the BOG and he was served up for Ash to sign off on. Could Hobbs had said no, and interview more people? Maybe. But the Ash trainwreck was far down the tracks when Hobbs was hired.
Hobbes was AD and I'm sure his opinion was asked and that it wasn't dripping resistance. It could be boiled down to RU just not having a strong AD (who was also a basketball school product). RU and Army both only turned around when they had strong ADs, coaches and committed presidents. CFB needed the triumvirate. A great coach with great players cant go to the top with tag-along ADs/prezzies. It takes the village.
I agree with your unspoken statement. Both Monken and Schiano are a fit at the schools they now coach. They wouldn't be a fit everywhere, but they are where they are currently coaching.
Tell me you answered without reading what I said. The man walked in the door, and Ash was practically hired. It was a near done deal. But you go off on weird tangents on strong/weak/basketball AD. FFS.
Common sense looks tangential here most days.
RU isn't a football university the way other B1G programs are.
RU doesn't get football ADs, presidents and boards the way other unis do.
A good part of faculty would be happy if football was dropped - act like NYU or Chicago.
Army used to make the mistake of getting ADs with no football chops.
One decided Army wasn't going to run the option anymore or be independent.
He went out and got a pro set coach and joined CUSA
What followed was 15 years of miserable losing seasons (and I mean 1-3 wins a year).
Then Army got a superintendent who played football, and he got an AD from Notre Dame.
The AD got a southern coach who eventually was getting 30+ players a year from south.
Boo Corrigan came in with a plan, and Monken joined him with demands.
They told the military that they needed to free players from physical training while practicing
They also told military they needed medical waivers to get 300lb+ players (Navy tactic).
Football involves 100+ players and dozens of coaches, trainers, marketing etc.
When your team sucks and your college is clueless, you have to show-up with a plan.
Tell the uni what it needs - dont wait for meetings with the cluelsss uni people.
Hobbs was not Boo Corrigan and he was lucky to get Schiano back after RU drove to the ditch.
Basketball Hobbs almost wrecked Schiano return as I recall
THIS TIME IT’S REAL! Greg Schiano returns as Rutgers coach after miraculous reversal
Greg Schiano is returning to the banks to become the next Rutgers football coach.
