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Dominoes could be starting to fall

unfortunately this could happen if he wants it and he will control the entire athetic department..say goodbye to any athletes village or basketball practice facility

Ah so the GS anti posts are largely driven by fear he will use the budget and bball will be left out.

I don't think that's a worry for a few reasons. One it was BM who drove the fball will get you where you need to go train,and we are there-B10. Secondly B1G money is a coming so there will be enough fore the revenue sports and one day RU will be rightfully ashamed for cutting the non revenue sports which took so little money and created an atmosphere of doers rather than watchers. But don't fear the return of GS because he will take bball money--it is a non issue. He would bring pride back which is sorely lacking.
 
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well the julietards argued she had no responsibilty for drug tests--personally I hope the shyt doesn't hit the fan but besides the usual suspects here julie has many detractors at RU--BARCHI was her protector--it would be best for RU if nothing happens to anyone


as a Julietard I never said that but both have responsibility so firing her and then letting Flood skate free on that, the email stuff and the on the field disaster would be incomprehensible

of course if we just fired like everyone else, didn't leak and kept dirty laundry private then we would always be better off
 
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Ah so the GS anti posts are largely driven by fear he will use the budget and bball will be left out.

I don't think that's a worry for a few reasons. One it was BM who drove the fball will get you where you need to go train,and we are there-B10. Secondly B1G money is a coming so there will be enough fore the revenue sports and one day RU will be rightfully ashamed for cutting the non revenue sports which took so little money and created an atmosphere of doers rather than watchers. But don't fear the return of GS because he will take bball money--it is a non issue. He would bring pride back which is sorely lacking.


no...one I don't want GS because we need a fresh start with a guy with no ties to anyone working here. We need a AD to continue what Julie was doing to bring the entire department up to speed not just worry about one sport. I don't want GS to be running the department like he did with Tim and the latter part of Bob.

I don't want him because we can do better.
 
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How can a coach who has been with the program for 10 years plead ignorance about any policies???


bingo...you can blame Julie but quite frankly shouldn't he have been instructed under Pernetti...did anyone care then he was not going, so why the double standard now. And yes while Flood is a fool his dumb routine about not knowing about is a total lie. Kyle is a very disengenous man who may just pull the coup of the century if he skates free
 
as a Julietard I never said that but both have responsibility so firing her and then letting Flood skate free on that, the email stuff and the on the field disaster would be incomprehensible

of course if we just fired like everyone else, didn't leak and kept dirty laundry private then we would always be better off
I vouch for bac on this. I raised this possibility in a thread a couple/few weeks ago, and bac agreed this would be bad for Julie.

This whole thing is sad. The only comedy in all this is the bad information we got from Silencer and Mr. Television.

This is like the Godfather. I'm expecting Barchi to get whacked next eating veal at the Subway on Easton.
 
no...one I don't want GS because we need a fresh start with a guy with no ties to anyone working here. We need a AD to continue what Julie was doing to bring the entire department up to speed not just worry about one sport. I don't want GS to be running the department like he did with Tim and the latter part of Bob.

I don't want him because we can do better.
Then it will be Golden.
 
He would bring pride back which is sorely lacking.

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Remember - the reason Flood wasn't fired for "Emailgate" was because he was able to plead ignorance. He claimed to not know that contacting professors was against the rules and when the investigative attorneys walked through it they discovered he may well have been telling the truth - nobody ever made him take the required compliance training. That falls on Julie.

Wouldn't that fall on Tim Pernetti? I mean Flood was here for like 18 months before Julie, right? You would think that he would have done the proper training on that sort of thing at that point. Yes, I suppose it is ultimately the ADs responsibility, but in reality who would think their predecessor wouldn't even be able to ensure the proper training of their hires?
 
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I still don't think Julie will get canned. But the more I think about it, the more I think Barchi is a cut throat CEO type that doesn't give 2 F's and will fire anyone he wants when he wants.
 
Wouldn't that fall on Tim Pernetti? I mean Flood was here for like 18 months before Julie, right? You would think that he would have done the proper training on that sort of thing at that point. Yes, I suppose it is ultimately the ADs responsibility, but in reality who would think their predecessor wouldn't even be able to ensure the proper training of their hires?
What are they going to do, fire Pernetti again?
 
Wouldn't that fall on Tim Pernetti? I mean Flood was here for like 18 months before Julie, right? You would think that he would have done the proper training on that sort of thing at that point. Yes, I suppose it is ultimately the ADs responsibility, but in reality who would think their predecessor wouldn't even be able to ensure the proper training of their hires?
I've said the same before. What were the compliance procedures before even JH got here. Not just for Flood as HC but how about as assistant. The compliance officer position had been open before JH even took the job. How does a guy who's been here a long time complain I didn't know? It doesn't make sense and again speaks to the mess of an AD we had before JH. It's jut one of many things that needed to be fixed and I could definitely envision it being put on the back burner or overlooked to deal with other more pressing issues. Who knew you'd have to worry about a coach playing Johnny English as opposed to fixing the rest of the mess of the athletic department.
 
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I still don't think Julie will get canned. But the more I think about it, the more I think Barchi is a cut throat CEO type that doesn't give 2 F's and will fire anyone he wants when he wants.

Doesnt seem like any of his firings happen too quickly though.
 
If Herman goes, the entire athletic administration department needs to be given their walking papers. I mean really just fire the whole department at this point because it's beyond fixing. Better to bring in a new AD with his own people and start from scratch. It will save money in the long run. Because this department is beyond fixing. They are just too screwed up at this point. This is just one too many f*ck ups from the top down and many who have been there the longest are probably the one's to blame. I know this will never happen but it's the only way to fix this ever persistent problem. You cut the head off the snake the body still lives. It will be more of the same with the next AD whoever that poor soul maybe.
 
If we fire both than Schiano is the way to go. Not a Schiano fan but he would bring stability and a decent AD would be willing to work with him.
Why not hire a decent AD first, if you believe he is decent,
then let him decide on the coach. Hire the coach first is half assed,
Hey, ain't that RU style.
 
you can have him I don't,.....its looking back and not forward...once again a short term decision without taking into consideration long term...check back in 4 years

Who could we get that is better than Schiano though? We are not getting Les Miles or Herman.
 
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I still don't think Julie will get canned. But the more I think about it, the more I think Barchi is a cut throat CEO type that doesn't give 2 F's and will fire anyone he wants when he wants.

It isn't really cut throat to fire the people who are heaping bad press upon your company.
 
you can have him I don't,.....its looking back and not forward...once again a short term decision without taking into consideration long term...check back in 4 years

Kind of agree. While it would be a welcome change from Flood, I would rather go with someone outside of his coaching tree. No Schiano, No Flood, No Robb Smith, and No PJ Fleck.
 
unfortunately I think the only way this doesn't happen is if Floyd gets another year burying the program and they go fresh next year

I don't know man.

You really think it's either Flood or GS??

I would rather have a Mullen or Miles type of coach (both are just wishful thinking I know) over GS, but I'd take GS one hundred billion times over any of the MAC coaches.
 
It isn't really cut throat to fire the people who are heaping bad press upon your company.
True but look at Chris Hill. You're a USC fan, look at Haden going down to the field to argue a ref and then now with Sarkisian's alcohol issues and he's the guy who hired him. He was under some pressure but he didn't get fired. Alvarez/Frazier got a reprimand. ADs are usually fired for poor coaching hires in the major sports and less for oversight issues unless it was something real bad. Does this rise to that level? I don't know.
 
True but look at Chris Hill. You're a USC fan, look at Haden going down to the field to argue a ref and then now with Sarkisian's alcohol issues and he's the guy who hired him. He was under some pressure but he didn't get fired. ADs are usually fired for poor coaching hires in the major sports and less for oversight issues unless it was something real bad. Does this rise to that level? I don't know.

Haden is beloved at USC. He has made some questionable hires, and the natives are restless, but he holds a lot more clout than Julie Hermann does at Rutgers. If the lack of oversight gets the school put sanctioned, you can bet someone is getting fired over that, and it won't be just Flood. Even at USC, once the Reggie Bush thing happened, the former AD, also a beloved SC guy, was pushed out.
 
Haden is beloved at USC. He has made some questionable hires, and the natives are restless, but he holds a lot more clout than Julie Hermann does at Rutgers. If the lack of oversight gets the school put sanctioned, you can bet someone is getting fired over that, and it won't be just Flood. Even at USC, once the Reggie Bush thing happened, the former AD, also a beloved SC guy, was pushed out.
If it happens it happens so be it. But I want a new AD to hire a coach, I don't want that coach in place before that nor do I want that coach to have any say in who the new AD is. You have to build equity to have that kind of clout and as much as some may like Schiano here he shouldn't have that clout. Take the bullet for the year with an interim staff like OSU with Fickell get the AD and then let him do a search.

Still skeptical about any new AD faring better though. Somebody that is going to have to continue all the big changes we need as an AD is going to run into the same resistant complacent backstabbing entrenched interests desperately holding onto their fiefdoms the same way JH did. I certainly don't want anyone from the past as I see KMac's name being brought up. Sure bring in someone who is associated with our long history of ineptness. That would be just great...not.
 
Well, I feel my work is done here; I am going to turn in for the night. Congratulations, Everyone!!! Well done.

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