Eddie's quote

[AshCatchEm]

From an actual press conference after losing by 29 points at home to seton hall and being outrebounded 53-32:

"I told them I’m not going through rebounding drills guys. That’s not in my package as a coach. Rebounding is about heart and nose for the ball and wanting to go get it. That’s just not me as a coach."

This man had some nerve to collect that 1.2 million dollar paycheck considering what we are watching this year.

 

[ClassOf02]

Dude dial it back. Eddie came to RU st a time almost no one else would and is one of our own. We're 5-0 and have positive things to discuss. No need for this.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

Yes....let's dial it back

Besides being one of our own....he inherited an awful situation ....a job that no one wanted ...and kept things together ...and he left the roster with lots of pieces to hit the ground running day one

Sanders
Johnson
Williams
Laurent
Freeman
Thiam verbal
Doorson

 

[SirScarlet]

we are very fortunate that Eddie left us with some really important pieces.

it also flat out amazes me how Pikiell has added some incredibly key pieces, and has these guys playing so much better.

part of it is him, but part of it is how bad EJ was in terms of developing these kids

I don't want to pile on EJ...but ACE has a really valid point, but it needs to be made with a bit more couth ;)

at the end of the day, especially today, we need to be so thankful that we have Coach Pikiell here!!

 

[mikefla]

....I have always been supportive of EJ....he may have been the only one who would come to Rutgers at the time but he certainly "conserved his efforts"........the OPs post makes me wonder just was was IN his "coaching package"........I mean rebounding drills are SUCH a waste of time LOL...game day coaching and a game plan didnt seem to be in said package either LOL...oh well

Despite it all...EJ will always be an icon to me as a player and an NBA coach.....

 

[ruready07]

I hear it on the football boards and hear it here now too .. this whole "no one else wanted the job" , so we should be so thankful to whoever coaches here ..

A division 1 coaching job paying millions of dollars will never ever be something hard to fill.

 

[SirScarlet]

I hear it on the football boards and hear it here now too .. this whole "no one else wanted the job" , so we should be so thankful to whoever coaches here ..

A division 1 coaching job paying millions of dollars will never ever be something hard to fill.

You miss the point.

Like completely

 

[RUinFla]

EJ is and always will be a Rutgers legend, for the way he played and for the way he represented us later. He got old, had the wrong people around him, and was unsuccessful as our coach. So what? You people going to keep referring to it for the next 20 years? Let it go.
TL

 

[RUHouston]

We are a sum of our past. It didn't work out with Fast Eddie and the reasons, now, are a moot point. If it wasn't for Eddie we wouldn't have Pike. So far I'm not hearing any complaints so it's all good.

 

[jtung230]

From an actual press conference after losing by 29 points at home to seton hall and being outrebounded 53-32:

"I told them I’m not going through rebounding drills guys. That’s not in my package as a coach. Rebounding is about heart and nose for the ball and wanting to go get it. That’s just not me as a coach."

This man had some nerve to collect that 1.2 million dollar paycheck considering what we are watching this year.

Ash had the nerve to collect 2 million.

 

[Caliknight]

Please stop with the no one would come here thing.

Definitely not true.

 

[AshCatchEm]

Ash had the nerve to collect 2 million.

Oh please. Nobody is calling ash lazy. Jordan wouldn't even teach rebounding in practice. I was a fan of his while he was here..even argued he should get another year at the time.. but if this year shows anything, he had absolutely no idea what he was doing. Pikiell probably emphasizes rebounding more than anything in practice.

 

[LevaosLectures]

Eddie was thankfully a somewhat better recruiter than coach.

 

[RU-ROCS]

No need to bash Eddie personally, but that quote speaks volumes about Jordan's lack of ability to coach college kids. What a difference a year makes!

 

[MADHAT1]

I'm thankful for Fast Eddie's time at RU s a player.
That's how I'm going to remember Eddie Jordan as the player and
just consider his time a HC something I prefer not to think about, except he was able to bring in some of the recruits whose talent is helping Pikiell now.

 

[RU_DIO]

Jordan took a bad situation were we had a public relations nightmare off the court and made our team a complete joke on the court.

 

[Pritz99]

No one else WOULD come here at that time. PR nightmare, no support from the administration, a quarter century of no NCAA, how many years of losing?

Apparently he was not cut out for college coaching. Any body ever ask a player of his what went on in practice? What they were doing?

 

[RU_DIO]

Guess wh

No one else WOULD come here at that time. PR nightmare, no support from the administration, a quarter century of no NCAA, how many years of losing?

Apparently he was not cut out for college coaching. Any body ever ask a player of his what went on in practice? What they were doing?

Sure. Just like no Coach would follow Paterno after Sandusky or Briles after Baylor issues. I'm sure no one will want the George Washington job because their Coach abused players. The Jordan apologists aren't living in reality. JMO

 

[MADHAT1]

Guess wh


Sure. Just like no Coach would follow Paterno after Sandusky or Briles after Baylor issues. I'm sure no one will want the George Washington job because their Coach abused players. The Jordan apologists aren't living in reality. JMO

O'Brien was a good hire, but not really highly sought after.
You can bet some HCs that would have accepted the position in a heartbeat if Paterno retired without the scandal being reason didn't consider the job after it .
As for Baylor, money is a high motivator and there's no comparison between that school and RU when it comes to paying their HCs.

Not many would take the RU MBB HC position with what RU was offering, Jordan did and that's the difference between your implying there wouldn't be any trouble getting a qualified HC and RU attracting qualified candidates.
What RU was offering, the state of program and facilities wasn't going to get the best and brightest nor the ones on the rise.
Jordan brought name creditably at a reasonable price and probably one of the only candidates that would take the position because of what RU was willing to pay and/ or promise.

 

[jtung230]

Oh please. Nobody is calling ash lazy. Jordan wouldn't even teach rebounding in practice. I was a fan of his while he was here..even argued he should get another year at the time.. but if this year shows anything, he had absolutely no idea what he was doing. Pikiell probably emphasizes rebounding more than anything in practice.

did you watch any games last year? You expect EJ to teach a PG how to rebound over a PF or a SF over a C? It's apples vs oranges between this year's team and last year's. Just enjoy the ride and thank EJ for leaving Pike a good group of kids.

 

[AshCatchEm]

did you watch any games last year? You expect EJ to teach a PG how to rebound over a PF or a SF over a C? It's apples vs oranges between this year's team and last year's. Just enjoy the ride and thank EJ for leaving Pike a good group of kids.

Alright alright I get it..like I said I originally argued for Eddie to get another year. But for him to say he didn't practice it once is pure insanity and probably the worst thing he could've said in a press conference.

I just thought it was an interesting quote to point out considering the upgrade in production from some of the same players

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

Turn the page....it's over. Why look back ? The focus is on Pikiell and his Dream Team Staff.

 

[BoroKnight]

I wonder if some of the people saying we should stop mentioning Eddie Jordan are the same ones who love bringing up what a disaster Kyle Flood was.

I know it's not the exact same thing, of course. But if the "turn the page" mantra works for one, it should work for the other. And I, for one, am not quite done with either one of them.

Luckily I'm old enough to remember Eddie as a player. And as a coach, soon he'll just be dumped in that list of mediocrities and failures between 1991 and whenever, much like the presidents between Jackson and Lincoln are.

How's THAT for an analogy?:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

I wonder if some of the people saying we should stop mentioning Eddie Jordan are the same ones who love bringing up what a disaster Kyle Flood was.

I know it's not the exact same thing, of course. But if the "turn the page" mantra works for one, it should work for the other. And I, for one, am not quite done with either one of them.

Luckily I'm old enough to remember Eddie as a player. And as a coach, soon he'll just be dumped in that list of mediocrities and failures between 1991 and whenever, much like the presidents between Jackson and Lincoln are.

How's THAT for an analogy?:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

The entire " not done with either one of them" is still silly. But, if it makes you feel good, go for it. You can probably accomplish the same thing by writing on the blackboard 1000 times......" I hate Flood, I hate Jordan". That way you will never forget !!!!

 

[RU_DIO]

O'Brien was a good hire, but not really highly sought after.
You can bet some HCs that would have accepted the position in a heartbeat if Paterno retired without the scandal being reason didn't consider the job after it .
As for Baylor, money is a high motivator and there's no comparison between that school and RU when it comes to paying their HCs.

Not many would take the RU MBB HC position with what RU was offering, Jordan did and that's the difference between your implying there wouldn't be any trouble getting a qualified HC and RU attracting qualified candidates.
What RU was offering, the state of program and facilities wasn't going to get the best and brightest nor the ones on the rise.
Jordan brought name creditably at a reasonable price and probably one of the only candidates that would take the position because of what RU was willing to pay and/ or promise.

The statement was no one would take the head coaching position because of the situation after Rice's firing. I bet a ton of high school coaches would have done a better job than Jordan did. He took a bad situation and made it worse for three more years.

 

[RU_DIO]

The entire " not done with either one of them" is still silly. But, if you makes you feel good, go for it. You can probably accomplish the same thing by writing on the blackboard 1000 times......" I hate Flood, I hate Jordan". That way you will never forget !!!!

It's a message board, so it's a virtual blackboard. What do you think this is? It's people speaking their feelings. It's not gospel.

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

It's a message board, so it's a virtual blackboard. What do you think this is? It's people speaking their feelings. It's not gospel.

Ok

 

[bac2therac]

last year, the team started out with a healthy roster at the start of the year and the rebounding and defense was poor just as it was in the previous two years when the rebounding and defense was poor. It was what it was under Jordan.

 

[Caliknight]

No one else WOULD come here at that time. PR nightmare, no support from the administration, a quarter century of no NCAA, how many years of losing?

Apparently he was not cut out for college coaching. Any body ever ask a player of his what went on in practice? What they were doing?

I know for a fact that Ben Howland was interested in the job. Very interested. Rutgers didn't respond.

 

[LotusAggressor]

From an actual press conference after losing by 29 points at home to seton hall and being outrebounded 53-32:

"I told them I’m not going through rebounding drills guys. That’s not in my package as a coach. Rebounding is about heart and nose for the ball and wanting to go get it. That’s just not me as a coach."

This man had some nerve to collect that 1.2 million dollar paycheck considering what we are watching this year.

Just be thankful that there is an RU basketball coach with a staff that actually believes in teaching and player development. We haven't had that here for decades.

 

[MoobyCow]

The statement was no one would take the head coaching position because of the situation after Rice's firing. I bet a ton of high school coaches would have done a better job than Jordan did. He took a bad situation and made it worse for three more years.

Not really worse though. I mean, yes on the court, it was a disaster, but the roster was in much better shape when he left.

If you're going to have a failing coach, much better to have a failing coach who could recruit a bit.

 

[jonS]

Guys , what's the point of bashing EJ? He's gone , we have a very fine coach, the team is off to a great start , interest is way up, and suddenly the future looks promising. I can only hope the recruits are watching and maybe giving our program a second look. Now all we need is the students , alumni, and community to bring back the passion that once made the RAC a difficult place to play and who knows , we may suddenly become a desirable place for top recruits to spend the next few years of their college life.

 

[RU_DIO]

Not really worse though. I mean, yes on the court, it was a disaster, but the roster was in much better shape when he left.

If you're going to have a failing coach, much better to have a failing coach who could recruit a bit.

That's definitely true but there were a bunch of pieces missing. Pikiell being able to bring in Gettys, Sa and Eugene before the season started was huge. If Doorson and Diallo were playing significant minutes I'd think we'd have a much different record. Hopefully they can develop and contribute significantly in their junior and senior years.

 

[Mr Magoo]

I'm really trying to let this go. It's over...thank God....but he was the worst coach we have had...including Littlepage. At least Littlepage was not lazy. Any high school coach could have done what Jordan did....As classy was he was as a player, he was a coach who took a lot of money for doing the absolute minimum.

 

[Pritz99]

Im not a jordan apologist. It was time for him to go. But was he lazy? I don't know because I wasn't there at practice and the recruiting trail. I'M ASKING PEOPLE WHO WERE. Have we heard from any of his players? bac, BK: my impression is that both of you are close to the program and were at many practices. Tell us. In your opinion was Jordan a lazy coach? As I said before: Wensel didn't teach boxing out, he felt other things were more important to spend practice time on and that rebounding was "see the ball and go get it" Desire and work. Did Jordan work more on other aspects of the game? From a work standpoint, how was he recruiting?

 

[Caliknight]

His practices were very soft. Someone who would know said MSU's practice before our game was more intense.

Eddie was a pro coach who had no attention to detail. It's al about managing players not coaching at that level. He was never the right fit.

 

[RickB113]

His practices were very soft. Someone who would know said MSU's practice before our game was more intense.

Eddie was a pro coach who had no attention to detail. It's al about managing players not coaching at that level. He was never the right fit.

His practices were soft because we couldn't afford anymore injuries. Look Eddie wasn't the best college coach but he was terribly hamstrung last year.

 

[Caliknight]

Which goes back to the lack of attention and focus on fitness. Pro coaches do none of that.

The team looks physically transformed from being doughy last year. That's not a surprise.

 

[jtung230]

His practices were very soft. Someone who would know said MSU's practice before our game was more intense.

Eddie was a pro coach who had no attention to detail. It's al about managing players not coaching at that level. He was never the right fit.

Yeah, let's practice our 7 scholly players hard. Please go back to defending Ash and his staff on the football board. Who was doughy last year? You obviously didn't watch any games last year.

 

[Caliknight]

The whole team. Every single player looks different. Corey included.

Go back to whatever it is you know about. Clearly that's not sports.