Fire Schiano!!!
- Thread starter mikemarc1
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At what point do the excuses end? In 16 seasons he lost 4 or more games in 15 of them. Everyone loves to point to 2006 yet ignores the other 15 years which were mediocre to bad. The best way judge a coach is conference records because those are peer schools not FCS or MAC schools. Let look at Schiano's conference records:
He is 38-78 which is down right terrible.
But he in a division with Michigan, Penn State and Ohio State....
38-66 without Mich/PSU/OSU which is still very bad.
Well he also had to face a dominate WVU team too....
38-55 without WVU/Mich/PSU/OSU which is not good.
Well he was rebuilding....
30-38 without first 3 years still well below .500
Well it was a long rebuild...
26-27 without first 4 years still below .500
Well it was a long rebuild and he had Michigan, Penn State and Ohio State....
26-18 well finally enough excuses to get a decent record.
Well it was a long rebuild and he had WVU, Michigan, Penn State and Ohio State....
26-7 well now you made enough excuses to have a good record.
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Good analysis. How many wins over ranked opponents in all those years too? Never heard any coach use the phrase developmental football program. Maybe it should be called developmentally disabled by excuse after excuse.
Fans and donors accept this because the two other coaches in the 2000s were huge bombs. And because Greg is such a great salesman of mediocrity. Fans and donors are like batteree spouses who accept the mediocrity because he is a nice guy and does not abuse them as much as the other two spouses. What a racket.
Even worse than being mad, apathy has set in. Hopefully we can reset with the bye this week and get some guys healthy. Next 4 weeks are huge for the program.
The year he did lose less than four it was only because VT, Miami and BC left, teams he never beat. Wins count, but context matters too.
But later on he did beat Ball State in the International Bowl. That colossal victory outweighs all of his failures ten times over.
What does that record look like if you take away September wins? We have a cream puff soft OOC and will do so going forward...
Here is his post September Record:
2001-2011
1-6
0-7
2-6
2-6
3-3
6-2
5-4
7-2
6-3
2-7
7-3
Schiano 1.0 41-49
2020-Present
3-6
2-7
1-7
3-5
0-4
Schiano 2.0 9-30
Overall: 50-79
What is odd, and granted it was the dreaded C year, 2020 was his best showing with Ash's players. 🤷♂️
Actually ( my opinion) give G1&G2 a pass on the first 3 years and go by the rest of his term.
But the 0-4 this year is unacceptable and he needs to end November on a high note or even the 3 year pass won't be enough to make his post Sept. record close to being an asset to his coaching ability
But someone said 2020 doesn't count against HC Schiano.
Maybe HC Ash gets credit for 3 more Big Ten wins?
I've never understood "well Year 1 doesn't count".
Does that apply to HC Ash?
The same allowances never seem to get afforded other coaches.
It's all so confusing isn't it? To be a "good" RU fan, you have to be like this:
And Ash was an underappreciated recruiting stud! (please don't check my Ash era posting history!)
Yeah, that dog won't hunt. Too many mental gymnastics exercises to rationalize mediocre to poor results. However, looking at what @PSU_Nut posted, RU is going to be the cat's meow in years 6-9 and 11. Kind of like the Pat Narduzzi trajectory in his later years at Pitt. Fasten your seatbelt, it's going to be a fun (albeit bumpy) ride!!!!
what counts is the shape of the program when hired.
Both G1&G2 inherited a terrible mess that needed a lot of work to make better
G1 turned RU into a respectable program, but failed to make it a good one.
G2 was on the way to respectability but this year might not be a step forward and the RU fanbase
is worried Schiano might not be good enough to even go to minor bowl games like he did before.
The game has changed and G2 might not be the type of HC that can make RU a winner now.
Year 1 was a year of decline under Ash. It was a year of improvement despite the miserable records under both Shiano 1.0 and 2.0
Some apologists here are surely trying to figure out an explanation to blame Ash and global warming for 1.0 mediocrity.
The bottom line with Schiano is this: he'll turn a bad program into a decent one, but he won't turn a decent program into an elite one, especially in the current environment.
No one expects elite. But there’s a lot of space between what he’s delivering and mediocre. He was 3-6 in conference last year, and 1-4 so far this year with 3-6 possible but unlikely This is not ‘decent’. This is shitty.
Without checking, this is probably 2nd worst of the 14 teams in the conference both years….am guessing only better than Purdue.
Did not check everything you assume.. but this is dead wrong.
He had 1 losing season after his first 4 years.. and my argument is this is his 4th year this time... and besides, he is 4-4 this year so far. So how do you get 26-27?
Oh.. you count his first 4 this time as if they are not his second first 4. What kind of "person" would think he could get away with that?
How many people read your post and assumed your facts were accurate? Do you work for the government... meh.. never mind.
It's almost funny that some here think that anyone could turn Rutgers into an elite program.
Shelby doesn’t expect that. Shelby expects 8-9 wins occasionally. He doesn’t want to hear his excuses or fans supporting a losing coach.
I don’t know how many of you were her when Frank Burns was here?
The end of the Frank Burns era was the beginning of “bigger time” football, and a 20 year beatdown with little exceptions.
I have sat through 7 coaching changes.
I’ve seen us go from independent to Big East to AAC to BIG ( which Schiano’s winning teams helped open the door to the BIG).
I have sat through seasons that were literally over by the 3rd week of September. Not only did we lose. We got blown out in just about every game.
This is Greg Schiano’s job til he says uncle,
or has a scandal.( I don’t see that happening).
He is the only coach that has moved the needle, at all.in over 40 years.
As long as he can recruit they will get better.
He has a pretty damn good staff they will get it done.
There was a time when Rutgers could have brought in to Big time football/ sports at a reasonable cost. We didn’t do it and we are still paying the price.
We have a dejected fan base.
It’s really a minor miracle, we are where we are. In a power two conference.
The end of the Frank Burns era was the beginning of “bigger time” football, and a 20 year beatdown with little exceptions.
I have sat through 7 coaching changes.
I’ve seen us go from independent to Big East to AAC to BIG ( which Schiano’s winning teams helped open the door to the BIG).
I have sat through seasons that were literally over by the 3rd week of September. Not only did we lose. We got blown out in just about every game.
This is Greg Schiano’s job til he says uncle,
or has a scandal.( I don’t see that happening).
He is the only coach that has moved the needle, at all.in over 40 years.
As long as he can recruit they will get better.
He has a pretty damn good staff they will get it done.
There was a time when Rutgers could have brought in to Big time football/ sports at a reasonable cost. We didn’t do it and we are still paying the price.
We have a dejected fan base.
It’s really a minor miracle, we are where we are. In a power two conference.
190 games coached 91-99
3 wins against ranked opponents, last one in 2009. No wins against ranked opponents in his last 7 years as a head coach.
So you’re saying it’s time for another raise and extension ?
Since I don't see any "likes" for this I thought I owed it to you to tell you that this is an excellent perspective and quite accurate.
Most, no all, of what we think of as teh power teams in college football made their reputation in teh wild wild west days where cheating.. even RINGERS.. ran rampant. That era was why the Ivy League was formed.. to get away from that. Because, yes, the days of the old eastern powers were cheating their butts off. And so did all the southern powers and the western powers and the big state schools. The NFL barely existed, being formed in 1920, and was formed because college football was so big.. such a money maker for the big time schools.
Eastern schools like Rutgers did not participate.. or could not, being so small at the time. Princeton dwarfed Rutgers... an example is Princeton's class of 1920 alone had more than twice the total enrollment of Rutgers. Only the WWII years and the movement toward becoming The State University of New Jersey saw Rutgers overtake Princeton in size.
Despite being the 8th oldest college in the United States and the first to host a college football game in 1869, thus being the Birthplace of College Football, Rutgers is a very young D1 Football School. We have disadvantages that no other of our peer schools has to overcome.
We CAN get there. We just have to ignore the failures and press on. We must be tolerant of failure and yet still pursue excellence. This idea that there is some magic coaching hire out there that can overcome all the challenges.. it is just silly. It is a nice dream.. but that is all it is.
I get it's fun to make fun of FSU, but JayDog has been a stand up and realistic guy here. They have 3 Natty's and 72 weeks at #1 on the positive side. That other list is stupid. We can only dream of that here.
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What's stopping this? SHI and Jersey Mike's stop paying Rutgers for naming rights and in exchange they support NIL deals directly to the players?
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made this exact point in another post ... his results are extremely sub-par and he's worshipped because having a pulse is better than being dead. Throw in the scores if you really want to have some fun.
I have. I seen both JJ Jennings and Ed Marinaro play. Full time since 1977. That's like 300+ games counting bowls and travel away games. And I don't disagree with a lot of what you are saying but I'll give you this. If you look at Graber's and Anderson's records they are not (winning %) that different. They coached in 11 game seasons with far fewer bowl games. In today's world Anderson would have been in 3 bowls in 6 years (possibly 4 if there were a 12th game in 1988) and Graber 2 in 5 years. They've beaten West Virginia (multiple) , Louisville (multiple) , Northwestern (multiple) , PSU , Cuse (Multiple), BC (multiple) ...and that tie with #3 Florida! Blow-outs were far fewer to all the other ranked loses.
Ranked wins over #15 PSU , #15 MSU, #19 WVU Tied #22 BC.
The absolutely head scratching losses to the Army's and other lower level teams were just the killer. World beaters one week. WTF's the next. I didn't disagree with the changes being made then because I surely thought Rutgers was committed and these results were not going to be acceptable any longer.
It is really hard to do a true compare when all Rutgers has ever done is hire coordinators and not one single truly proven winning head coach (even Burns as I was corrected). Terry Shea was not that guy.
Schiano is not going anywhere. We made our bed. Check. I even contributed to bring him back thinking 2.0 was really true. The level of competition has increased. Check. But the performance is hardly that much improved (IF at all) relative. The games are hardly fun to watch with this ultra conservative approach.
We're Rutgers. We're stuck. Thank God the tailgating still rocks (until they take it away for more must-have resources). Good luck to us.
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Look I for one am with you, I was a big GS fan when he came from Miami. But after watching his terrible game day coaching and outdated offensive philosophy I didn’t want him back. GS is never gonna change, he is who he is. A sub 500 coach, I don’t think his philosophy appeal to the kids of today, especially if you aren’t winning. We are in the Big 10, injuries are no excuses, next man up. Teams will come after our good players after every season, we don’t bring in enough good transfers. This all fall on the HC, right or wrong. You get paid millions to win, fans don’t care about anything else. My advise get a up and coming young coach, that can not only coach but also understands how to deal with the media. If you watch one of GS presser after a loss in 2024, it’s thaw same as it was in 2004. You remember build a wall around NJ and CHOP, all that means nothing unless you win.
I didn’t want him back either, he want a 500 coach in the Big East. Don’t know why people think he ca get it done in the Big 10. The longer he is here the deeper that hole will get.
Definitely worshipped by some, wait until he finally retire. You will have some on this board asking for a statue of a sub 500 coach erected outside of the stadium
Yep, Fieldhouse Adonis Al of La Mancha is already raising money for a 50 foot statue in addition to still donating NIL to his fantasy s.o. Wimsatt at KY.
Just for context, and how quickly things can turn around, take into account Indiana going back to 1994. Here's a question, what makes Rutgers so special to kick and scream and be pissed? :
Northwestern-mostly futile except for a few years under Fitz:
Minnesota--mixed results pre PJ Fleck,and they still bitch about him.
Illinois, mostly futile:
Even the once mighty Nebraska has basically sucked for the last 8-9 years:
| Rk | Year | Conf | W | L | T | Pct | W | L | T | Pct | SRS | SOS | AP Pre | AP High | AP Post | CFP High | CFP Final | Coach(es) | Bowl | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| llen (3-9) | ||||||||||||||||||||
| 3 | 2022 | Big Ten | 4 | 8 | 0 | .333 | 2 | 7 | 0 | .222 | -3.05 | 5.03 | Tom Allen (4-8) | |||||||
| 4 | 2021 | Big Ten | 2 | 10 | 0 | .167 | 0 | 9 | 0 | .000 | -4.70 | 8.63 | 17 | 17 | Tom Allen (2-10) | |||||
| 5 | 2020 | Big Ten | 6 | 2 | 0 | .750 | 6 | 1 | 0 | .857 | 13.71 | 4.46 | 7 | 12 | 11 | 11 | Tom Allen (6-2) | Outback Bowl (L) | ||
| 6 | 2019 | Big Ten | 8 | 5 | 0 | .615 | 5 | 4 | 0 | .556 | 5.79 | 1.49 | 24 | Tom Allen (8-5) | Gator Bowl (L) | |||||
| 7 | 2018 | Big Ten | 5 | 7 | 0 | .417 | 2 | 7 | 0 | .222 | 2.44 | 5.61 | Tom Allen (5-7) | |||||||
| 8 | 2017 | Big Ten | 5 | 7 | 0 | .417 | 2 | 7 | 0 | .222 | 4.74 | 4.90 | Tom Allen (5-7) | |||||||
| 9 | 2016 | Big Ten | 6 | 7 | 0 | .462 | 4 | 5 | 0 | .444 | 1.38 | 2.69 | Kevin Wilson (6-6), Tom Allen (0-1) | Foster Farms Bowl (L) | ||||||
| 10 | 2015 | Big Ten | 6 | 7 | 0 | .462 | 2 | 6 | 0 | .250 | 2.26 | 3.03 | Kevin Wilson (6-7) | Pinstripe Bowl (L) | ||||||
| 11 | 2014 | Big Ten | 4 | 8 | 0 | .333 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | -5.32 | 1.43 | Kevin Wilson (4-8) | |||||||
| 12 | 2013 | Big Ten | 5 | 7 | 0 | .417 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | 4.41 | 4.74 | Kevin Wilson (5-7) | |||||||
| 13 | 2012 | Big Ten | 4 | 8 | 0 | .333 | 2 | 6 | 0 | .250 | -5.53 | -0.61 | Kevin Wilson (4-8) | |||||||
| 14 | 2011 | Big Ten | 1 | 11 | 0 | .083 | 0 | 8 | 0 | .000 | -10.91 | 1.09 | Kevin Wilson (1-11) | |||||||
| 15 | 2010 | Big Ten | 5 | 7 | 0 | .417 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | -4.49 | -1.15 | Bill Lynch (5-7) | |||||||
| 16 | 2009 | Big Ten | 4 | 8 | 0 | .333 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | -5.75 | -0.25 | Bill Lynch (4-8) | |||||||
| 17 | 2008 | Big Ten | 3 | 9 | 0 | .250 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | -8.73 | 1.44 | Bill Lynch (3-9) | |||||||
| 18 | 2007 | Big Ten | 7 | 6 | 0 | .538 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | 0.34 | -1.43 | Bill Lynch (7-6) | Insight Bowl (L) | ||||||
| 19 | 2006 | Big Ten | 5 | 7 | 0 | .417 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | -3.53 | 1.05 | Terry Hoeppner (5-7) | |||||||
| 20 | 2005 | Big Ten | 4 | 7 | 0 | .364 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | -3.50 | 4.68 | Terry Hoeppner (4-7) | |||||||
| 21 | 2004 | Big Ten | 3 | 8 | 0 | .273 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | -4.98 | 2.11 | Gerry DiNardo (3-8) | |||||||
| 22 | 2003 | Big Ten | 2 | 10 | 0 | .167 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | -9.87 | 3.38 | Gerry DiNardo (2-10) | |||||||
| 23 | 2002 | Big Ten | 3 | 9 | 0 | .250 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | -10.42 | 2.25 | Gerry DiNardo (3-9) | |||||||
| 24 | 2001 | Big Ten | 5 | 6 | 0 | .455 | 4 | 4 | 0 | .500 | 4.15 | 5.51 | Cam Cameron (5-6) | |||||||
| 25 | 2000 | Big Ten | 3 | 8 | 0 | .273 | 2 | 6 | 0 | .250 | -2.67 | 3.88 | Cam Cameron (3-8) | |||||||
| 26 | 1999 | Big Ten | 4 | 7 | 0 | .364 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | -1.38 | 4.16 | Cam Cameron (4-7) | |||||||
| 27 | 1998 | Big Ten | 4 | 7 | 0 | .364 | 2 | 6 | 0 | .250 | 0.78 | 4.60 | Cam Cameron (4-7) | |||||||
| 28 | 1997 | Big Ten | 2 | 9 | 0 | .182 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | -7.23 | 5.41 | Cam Cameron (2-9) | |||||||
| 29 | 1996 | Big Ten | 3 | 8 | 0 | .273 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | -0.50 | 5.59 | Bill Mallory (3-8) | |||||||
| 30 | 1995 | Big Ten | 2 | 9 | 0 | .182 | 0 | 8 | 0 | .000 | -1.82 | 10.28 | Bill Mallory (2-9) | |||||||
| 31 | 1994 | Big Ten | 6 | 5 | 0 | .545 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | 6.11 | 3.56 | 25 | Bill Mallory (6-5) |
Northwestern-mostly futile except for a few years under Fitz:
| Rk | Year | Conf | W | L | T | Pct | W | L | T | Pct | SRS | SOS | AP Pre | AP High | AP Post | CFP High | CFP Final | Coach(es) | Bowl | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| David Braun (3-5) | ||||||||||||||||||||
| 2 | 2023 | Big Ten | 8 | 5 | 0 | .615 | 5 | 4 | 0 | .556 | 2.53 | 2.45 | David Braun (8-5) | Las Vegas Bowl (W) | ||||||
| 3 | 2022 | Big Ten | 1 | 11 | 0 | .083 | 1 | 8 | 0 | .111 | -7.43 | 4.74 | Pat Fitzgerald (1-11) | |||||||
| 4 | 2021 | Big Ten | 3 | 9 | 0 | .250 | 1 | 8 | 0 | .111 | -5.72 | 3.70 | Pat Fitzgerald (3-9) | |||||||
| 5 | 2020 | Big Ten | 7 | 2 | 0 | .778 | 6 | 1 | 0 | .857 | 12.55 | 4.88 | 10 | 10 | 8 | 14 | Pat Fitzgerald (7-2) | Citrus Bowl (W) | ||
| 6 | 2019 | Big Ten | 3 | 9 | 0 | .250 | 1 | 8 | 0 | .111 | -3.13 | 3.46 | Pat Fitzgerald (3-9) | |||||||
| 7 | 2018 | Big Ten | 9 | 5 | 0 | .643 | 8 | 1 | 0 | .889 | 7.51 | 5.94 | 20 | 21 | 19 | 22 | Pat Fitzgerald (9-5) | Holiday Bowl (W) | ||
| 8 | 2017 | Big Ten | 10 | 3 | 0 | .769 | 7 | 2 | 0 | .778 | 11.36 | 5.13 | 17 | 17 | 21 | 21 | Pat Fitzgerald (10-3) | Music City Bowl (W) | ||
| 9 | 2016 | Big Ten | 7 | 6 | 0 | .538 | 5 | 4 | 0 | .556 | 5.46 | 3.07 | Pat Fitzgerald (7-6) | Pinstripe Bowl (W) | ||||||
| 10 | 2015 | Big Ten | 10 | 3 | 0 | .769 | 6 | 2 | 0 | .750 | 7.30 | 4.23 | 12 | 23 | 13 | 13 | Pat Fitzgerald (10-3) | Outback Bowl (L) | ||
| 11 | 2014 | Big Ten | 5 | 7 | 0 | .417 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | 0.80 | 1.63 | Pat Fitzgerald (5-7) | |||||||
| 12 | 2013 | Big Ten | 5 | 7 | 0 | .417 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | 1.20 | 2.03 | 22 | 16 | Pat Fitzgerald (5-7) | |||||
| 13 | 2012 | Big Ten | 10 | 3 | 0 | .769 | 5 | 3 | 0 | .625 | 8.97 | 0.97 | 17 | 17 | Pat Fitzgerald (10-3) | Gator Bowl (W) | ||||
| 14 | 2011 | Big Ten | 6 | 7 | 0 | .462 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | 1.66 | 0.43 | Pat Fitzgerald (6-7) | Meineke Car Care Bowl of Texas (L) | ||||||
| 15 | 2010 | Big Ten | 7 | 6 | 0 | .538 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | -1.44 | -1.06 | Pat Fitzgerald (7-6) | Ticket City Bowl (L) | ||||||
| 16 | 2009 | Big Ten | 8 | 5 | 0 | .615 | 5 | 3 | 0 | .625 | -0.39 | -1.93 | Pat Fitzgerald (8-5) | Outback Bowl (L) | ||||||
| 17 | 2008 | Big Ten | 9 | 4 | 0 | .692 | 5 | 3 | 0 | .625 | 4.82 | -0.11 | 22 | Pat Fitzgerald (9-4) | Alamo Bowl (L) | |||||
| 18 | 2007 | Big Ten | 6 | 6 | 0 | .500 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | -3.70 | -1.45 | Pat Fitzgerald (6-6) | |||||||
| 19 | 2006 | Big Ten | 4 | 8 | 0 | .333 | 2 | 6 | 0 | .250 | -7.39 | 0.11 | Pat Fitzgerald (4-8) | |||||||
| 20 | 2005 | Big Ten | 7 | 5 | 0 | .583 | 5 | 3 | 0 | .625 | 9.27 | 8.44 | 21 | Randy Walker (7-5) | Sun Bowl (L) | |||||
| 21 | 2004 | Big Ten | 6 | 6 | 0 | .500 | 5 | 3 | 0 | .625 | 1.71 | 5.04 | Randy Walker (6-6) | |||||||
| 22 | 2003 | Big Ten | 6 | 7 | 0 | .462 | 4 | 4 | 0 | .500 | 0.09 | 4.47 | Randy Walker (6-7) | Motor City Bowl (L) | ||||||
| 23 | 2002 | Big Ten | 3 | 9 | 0 | .250 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | -8.05 | 3.36 | Randy Walker (3-9) | |||||||
| 24 | 2001 | Big Ten | 4 | 7 | 0 | .364 | 2 | 6 | 0 | .250 | -1.01 | 3.26 | 16 | 14 | Randy Walker (4-7) | |||||
| 25 | 2000 | Big Ten | 8 | 4 | 0 | .667 | 6 | 2 | 0 | .750 | 8.85 | 4.26 | 12 | Randy Walker (8-4) | Alamo Bowl (L) | |||||
| 26 | 1999 | Big Ten | 3 | 8 | 0 | .273 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | -5.76 | 6.06 | Randy Walker (3-8) | |||||||
| 27 | 1998 | Big Ten | 3 | 9 | 0 | .250 | 0 | 8 | 0 | .000 | -6.28 | 2.72 | Gary Barnett (3-9) | |||||||
| 28 | 1997 | Big Ten | 5 | 7 | 0 | .417 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | 2.56 | 4.48 | 21 | Gary Barnett (5-7) | ||||||
| 29 | 1996 | Big Ten | 9 | 3 | 0 | .750 | 7 | 1 | 0 | .875 | 8.75 | 2.84 | 18 | 10 | 15 | Gary Barnett (9-3) | Citrus Bowl (L) |
Minnesota--mixed results pre PJ Fleck,and they still bitch about him.
| Rk | Year | Conf | W | L | T | Pct | W | L | T | Pct | SRS | SOS | AP Pre | AP High | AP Post | CFP High | CFP Final | Coach(es) | Bowl | Notes |
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| Quick Lane Bowl (W) | ||||||||||||||||||||
| 3 | 2022 | Big Ten | 9 | 4 | 0 | .692 | 5 | 4 | 0 | .556 | 8.48 | -0.21 | 21 | P.J. Fleck (9-4) | Pinstripe Bowl (W) | |||||
| 4 | 2021 | Big Ten | 9 | 4 | 0 | .692 | 6 | 3 | 0 | .667 | 10.17 | 2.94 | 20 | P.J. Fleck (9-4) | Guaranteed Rate Bowl (W) | |||||
| 5 | 2020 | Big Ten | 3 | 4 | 0 | .429 | 3 | 4 | 0 | .429 | -1.32 | 2.10 | 19 | 19 | P.J. Fleck (3-4) | |||||
| 6 | 2019 | Big Ten | 11 | 2 | 0 | .846 | 7 | 2 | 0 | .778 | 11.73 | 2.11 | 7 | 10 | 8 | 18 | P.J. Fleck (11-2) | Outback Bowl (W) | ||
| 7 | 2018 | Big Ten | 7 | 6 | 0 | .538 | 3 | 6 | 0 | .333 | 5.28 | 4.05 | P.J. Fleck (7-6) | Quick Lane Bowl (W) | ||||||
| 8 | 2017 | Big Ten | 5 | 7 | 0 | .417 | 2 | 7 | 0 | .222 | 3.36 | 4.78 | P.J. Fleck (5-7) | |||||||
| 9 | 2016 | Big Ten | 9 | 4 | 0 | .692 | 5 | 4 | 0 | .556 | 8.65 | 1.65 | Tracy Claeys (9-4) | Holiday Bowl (W) | ||||||
| 10 | 2015 | Big Ten | 6 | 7 | 0 | .462 | 2 | 6 | 0 | .250 | 2.46 | 4.84 | Jerry Kill (4-3), Tracy Claeys (2-4) | Quick Lane Bowl (W) | ||||||
| 11 | 2014 | Big Ten | 8 | 5 | 0 | .615 | 5 | 3 | 0 | .625 | 6.74 | 3.04 | 22 | 18 | 25 | Jerry Kill (8-5) | Citrus Bowl (L) | |||
| 12 | 2013 | Big Ten | 8 | 5 | 0 | .615 | 4 | 4 | 0 | .500 | 5.27 | 1.35 | Jerry Kill (8-5) | Texas Bowl (L) | ||||||
| 13 | 2012 | Big Ten | 6 | 7 | 0 | .462 | 2 | 6 | 0 | .250 | -3.25 | 0.13 | Jerry Kill (6-7) | Meineke Car Care Bowl of Texas (L) | ||||||
| 14 | 2011 | Big Ten | 3 | 9 | 0 | .250 | 2 | 6 | 0 | .250 | -6.04 | 3.21 | Jerry Kill (3-9) | |||||||
| 15 | 2010 | Big Ten | 3 | 9 | 0 | .250 | 2 | 6 | 0 | .250 | -5.06 | 3.53 | Tim Brewster (1-6), Jeff Horton (2-3) | |||||||
| 16 | 2009 | Big Ten | 6 | 7 | 0 | .462 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | -0.10 | 2.67 | Tim Brewster (6-7) | Insight Bowl (L) | ||||||
| 17 | 2008 | Big Ten | 7 | 6 | 0 | .538 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | 0.01 | 0.09 | 20 | Tim Brewster (7-6) | Insight Bowl (L) | |||||
| 18 | 2007 | Big Ten | 1 | 11 | 0 | .083 | 0 | 8 | 0 | .000 | -11.69 | -0.02 | Tim Brewster (1-11) | |||||||
| 19 | 2006 | Big Ten | 6 | 7 | 0 | .462 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | 1.45 | 1.84 | Glen Mason (6-7) | Insight Bowl (L) | ||||||
| 20 | 2005 | Big Ten | 7 | 5 | 0 | .583 | 4 | 4 | 0 | .500 | 11.31 | 6.81 | 18 | Glen Mason (7-5) | Music City Bowl (L) | |||||
| 21 | 2004 | Big Ten | 7 | 5 | 0 | .583 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | 5.74 | 1.49 | 25 | 13 | Glen Mason (7-5) | Music City Bowl (W) | ||||
| 22 | 2003 | Big Ten | 10 | 3 | 0 | .769 | 5 | 3 | 0 | .625 | 11.88 | -0.04 | 17 | 20 | Glen Mason (10-3) | Sun Bowl (W) | ||||
| 23 | 2002 | Big Ten | 8 | 5 | 0 | .615 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | 5.02 | 1.17 | 23 | Glen Mason (8-5) | Music City Bowl (W) | |||||
| 24 | 2001 | Big Ten | 4 | 7 | 0 | .364 | 2 | 6 | 0 | .250 | -0.70 | 1.76 | Glen Mason (4-7) | |||||||
| 25 | 2000 | Big Ten | 6 | 6 | 0 | .500 | 4 | 4 | 0 | .500 | 3.02 | 0.10 | 22 | Glen Mason (6-6) | Micron PC Bowl (L) | |||||
| 26 | 1999 | Big Ten | 8 | 4 | 0 | .667 | 5 | 3 | 0 | .625 | 11.81 | 1.39 | 12 | 18 | Glen Mason (8-4) | Sun Bowl (L) | ||||
| 27 | 1998 | Big Ten | 5 | 6 | 0 | .455 | 2 | 6 | 0 | .250 | 3.12 | 5.12 | Glen Mason (5-6) | |||||||
| 28 | 1997 | Big Ten | 3 | 9 | 0 | .250 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | -5.78 | 2.39 | Glen Mason (3-9) | |||||||
| 29 | 1996 | Big Ten | 4 | 7 | 0 | .364 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | -0.04 | 6.41 | Jim Wacker (4-7) | |||||||
| 30 | 1995 | Big Ten | 3 | 8 | 0 | .273 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | 2.23 | 9.05 | Jim Wacker (3-8) | |||||||
| 31 | 1994 | Big Ten | 3 | 8 | 0 | .273 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | 2.97 | 7.88 | Jim Wacker (3-8) | |||||||
| 32 | 1993 | Big Ten | 4 | 7 | 0 | .364 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | -1.42 | 4.67 | Jim Wacker (4-7) | |||||||
| 33 | 1992 | Big Ten | 2 | 9 | 0 | .182 | 2 | 6 | 0 | .250 | -4.47 | 3.53 | Jim Wacker (2-9) |
Illinois, mostly futile:
| Rk | Year | Conf | W | L | T | Pct | W | L | T | Pct | SRS | SOS | AP Pre | AP High | AP Post | CFP High | CFP Final | Coach(es) | Bowl | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2 | 2023 | Big Ten | 5 | 7 | 0 | .417 | 3 | 6 | 0 | .333 | -0.42 | 3.84 | Bret Bielema (5-7) | |||||||
| 3 | 2022 | Big Ten | 8 | 5 | 0 | .615 | 5 | 4 | 0 | .556 | 10.01 | 1.17 | 14 | 16 | Bret Bielema (8-5) | ReliaQuest Bowl (L) | ||||
| 4 | 2021 | Big Ten | 5 | 7 | 0 | .417 | 4 | 5 | 0 | .444 | 2.20 | 4.61 | Bret Bielema (5-7) | |||||||
| 5 | 2020 | Big Ten | 2 | 6 | 0 | .250 | 2 | 6 | 0 | .250 | -6.39 | 4.36 | Lovie Smith (2-5), Rod Smith (0-1) | |||||||
| 6 | 2019 | Big Ten | 6 | 7 | 0 | .462 | 4 | 5 | 0 | .444 | -0.08 | 0.61 | Lovie Smith (6-7) | Redbox Bowl (L) | ||||||
| 7 | 2018 | Big Ten | 4 | 8 | 0 | .333 | 2 | 7 | 0 | .222 | -6.05 | 0.79 | Lovie Smith (4-8) | |||||||
| 8 | 2017 | Big Ten | 2 | 10 | 0 | .167 | 0 | 9 | 0 | .000 | -7.87 | 5.38 | Lovie Smith (2-10) | |||||||
| 9 | 2016 | Big Ten | 3 | 9 | 0 | .250 | 2 | 7 | 0 | .222 | -7.75 | 3.75 | Lovie Smith (3-9) | |||||||
| 10 | 2015 | Big Ten | 5 | 7 | 0 | .417 | 2 | 6 | 0 | .250 | 1.18 | 3.26 | Bill Cubit (5-7) | |||||||
| 11 | 2014 | Big Ten | 6 | 7 | 0 | .462 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | -2.53 | 3.00 | Tim Beckman (6-7) | Heart of Dallas Bowl (L) | ||||||
| 12 | 2013 | Big Ten | 4 | 8 | 0 | .333 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | -3.86 | 1.98 | Tim Beckman (4-8) | |||||||
| 13 | 2012 | Big Ten | 2 | 10 | 0 | .167 | 0 | 8 | 0 | .000 | -10.35 | 2.56 | Tim Beckman (2-10) | |||||||
| 14 | 2011 | Big Ten | 7 | 6 | 0 | .538 | 2 | 6 | 0 | .250 | 2.63 | 1.17 | 16 | Ron Zook (6-6), Vic Koenning (1-0) | Fight Hunger Bowl (W) | |||||
| 15 | 2010 | Big Ten | 7 | 6 | 0 | .538 | 4 | 4 | 0 | .500 | 7.77 | 1.47 | Ron Zook (7-6) | Texas Bowl (W) | ||||||
| 16 | 2009 | Big Ten | 3 | 9 | 0 | .250 | 2 | 6 | 0 | .250 | -3.67 | 2.24 | Ron Zook (3-9) | |||||||
| 17 | 2008 | Big Ten | 5 | 7 | 0 | .417 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | 2.96 | 2.04 | 20 | 20 | Ron Zook (5-7) | |||||
| 18 | 2007 | Big Ten | 9 | 4 | 0 | .692 | 6 | 2 | 0 | .750 | 8.07 | 1.76 | 13 | 20 | Ron Zook (9-4) | Rose Bowl (L) | ||||
| 19 | 2006 | Big Ten | 2 | 10 | 0 | .167 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | -5.87 | 1.13 | Ron Zook (2-10) | |||||||
| 20 | 2005 | Big Ten | 2 | 9 | 0 | .182 | 0 | 8 | 0 | .000 | -7.54 | 7.37 | Ron Zook (2-9) | |||||||
| 21 | 2004 | Big Ten | 3 | 8 | 0 | .273 | 1 | 7 | 0 | .125 | -4.53 | 1.83 | Ron Turner (3-8) | |||||||
| 22 | 2003 | Big Ten | 1 | 11 | 0 | .083 | 0 | 8 | 0 | .000 | -8.63 | 4.62 | Ron Turner (1-11) | |||||||
| 23 | 2002 | Big Ten | 5 | 7 | 0 | .417 | 4 | 4 | 0 | .500 | 2.56 | 2.89 | Ron Turner (5-7) |
Even the once mighty Nebraska has basically sucked for the last 8-9 years:
| 2023 | 5 | 7 | .417 | 3 | 6 | .333 | ||||||||||||||
| 3 | 2022 | Big Ten | 4 | 8 | 0 | .333 | 3 | 6 | 0 | .333 | -2.14 | 2.11 | Scott Frost (1-2), Mickey Joseph (3-6) | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4 | 2021 | Big Ten | 3 | 9 | 0 | .250 | 1 | 8 | 0 | .111 | 7.10 | 6.60 | Scott Frost (3-9) | |||||||
| 5 | 2020 | Big Ten | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | 0.14 | 5.14 | Scott Frost (3-5) | |||||||
| 6 | 2019 | Big Ten | 5 | 7 | 0 | .417 | 3 | 6 | 0 | .333 | 2.67 | 4.00 | 24 | 24 | Scott Frost (5-7) | |||||
| 7 | 2018 | Big Ten | 4 | 8 | 0 | .333 | 3 | 6 | 0 | .333 | 3.48 | 4.82 | Scott Frost (4-8) | |||||||
| 8 | 2017 | Big Ten | 4 | 8 | 0 | .333 | 3 | 6 | 0 | .333 | 1.52 | 8.18 | Mike Riley (4-8) | |||||||
| 9 | 2016 | Big Ten | 9 | 4 | 0 | .692 | 6 | 3 | 0 | .667 | 7.55 | 2.94 | 7 | 10 | Mike Riley (9-4) | Music City Bowl (L) | ||||
| 10 | 2015 | Big Ten | 6 | 7 | 0 | .462 | 3 | 5 | 0 | .375 | 6.56 | 3.94 | Mike Riley (6-7) | Foster Farms Bowl (W) |
