The Waif wanted Arya to suffer. She was specifically going against Jaqen's directive, which showed that she was not yet ready to be a servant of the Many-Faced God. When Arya defeated her, she proved her worthiness, as seen in the last scene in the House of Black and White.
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The Waif wanted Arya to suffer. She was specifically going against Jaqen's directive, which showed that she was not yet ready to be a servant of the Many-Faced God. When Arya defeated her, she proved her worthiness, as seen in the last scene in the House of Black and White.
I agree on both points. I think Arya was sleeping for several days at least. That said, she was clearly re-injured in the chase scene, and then apparently healed in the house of the many faced god...not sure how to explain that.
As far as the waif goes -- the waif was the better fighter, and should have killed Arya easily. She had a few chances, but didnt follow instructions to kill arya quickly. She was walking behind Arya instead of running her down, confident that she had already won. In the end, she walked right into a trap.
I gotta be honest - love this show - but this episode left me scratching my head.
Many issues with the writing - what is with the story arc with Black Fish? seems wasted.
Many issues with the writing - what is with the story arc with Black Fish? seems wasted.
Maybe the Blackfish isn't dead. All we know is that he went off to fight and it was subsequently reported to Jamie Lanister that he had died. It's also possible that he's holed up somewhere with a band of loyalists.
At first, I thought her recovery was way too quick. But, like you, I gave the writers a pass and assumed that all actually took place over the course of a week or two. They could have/should have made that a little more clear (some sort of scene transition or day to night fade in/out to show the passage of time).
They actually did. There was the exchange wherein Arya asked the actress, "what happened to the other one, the one who wanted to kill you?" That exchange was intended to indicate that there had been some passage of time.
That was before she gave her the Milk of the Poppy. I think the question is how long was she sleeping.
In the book, the Blackfish is still alive. He escaped from the castle and his current location is unknown.
Sometimes, even when you see the body, they're only mostly dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead.
So what you are saying is the Lord of Light is Miracle Max? The Mountain is Fezzik and Inigo Montoya is the first sword of Bravos?
I heard the reason we didn't see much action at the castle was because of the actor who plays the balckfish is 71 and wasn't physically capable of performing action scenes; they couldn't get a sufficient stunt double or ultimately decided not to go that route.
R.I.P - one of my favorite characters. I will miss you.:cry:
Loved the smirk on her face during the chase scene. We deserved to see an epic fight scene between Arya and her. :angry:
Did anyone else think the chase scene mimicked the chase between Arnold and T-1000 in Terminator 2? The deliberate movements of the Waife in turning, walking and running seemed very much like those of T-1000.
True, but a really dim room (from viewer's perspective) with well-scripted audio would have been cool. Pitch blackness would be implied by Arya snuffing the candle out, but they could've provided just enough light to see forms moving in the darkness. I dunno. I needed something for that scene.
In case anyone is interested I understand this coming Sunday's episode will be 10 minutes longer than normal and next Sunday 20 minutes longer.
Yes, that's great news! This Saturday's episode will be the battle of the bastards. Perhaps they do a Blackwater and devote the entire episode to just this one storyline?
Also just released - the titles of the final 2 episodes of the season:
Episode 9: The Battle of the Bastards
Episode 10: The Winds of Winter
So we pretty much know where this is going. And yes, I agree with those who speculated that the plot arcs of people like Arya and Dany are quite possibly done for the season.
Episode 9: The Battle of the Bastards
Episode 10: The Winds of Winter
So we pretty much know where this is going. And yes, I agree with those who speculated that the plot arcs of people like Arya and Dany are quite possibly done for the season.
I believe that is the title of the next GRRM novel (book 6). I agree that Arya is done or perhaps just a token scene of her on a boat heading back to Westeros, but I have to imagine that Dany and the dragons will be included in E10, to destroy the masters and/or defeat them and get their ships. Something like that.
I'm sure we all suspected something, but the show made it pretty clear when she left that blood smear and then they showed the waif checking the blood smear. You knew it was a trap then.. and the waif should have as well... though her general feeling of superiority would account for not caring if it was a trap or not. But wouldn't the top of that candle have kept burning based on where it was cut?
Cheers to Arya's return to Westeros. The Starks are rallying! I now await a reunion with her direwolf Nymeria!
**SPOILER ??? ***
Ask yourself what Yara and Theon are doing over on that side of the world. (How they got there that fast is another issue.. though they did take the best ships). In the books a younger brother of Balon (thrown of bridge by..) and Euron named Victarion who, on Euron's orders takes a fleet to see Dany and offer her Euron's marriage proposal.. and stuff happens along the way. I don't think Yara and Theon can serve the same function there. But the books had all kinds of suitors headed toward Mereen to woo Dany. In the end I think Dany is going to be "Elizabeth I" and not take a husband.
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this smirk is better. Faye Marsay in real life.
Wait. You mean GOT is not real life? You guys, this thread, crack me up.
I've started an Episode 9 Death Pool on the CE board based on odds that Bovada posted
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/game-of-thrones-episode-9-death-pool.94215/
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/game-of-thrones-episode-9-death-pool.94215/
That's all I was thinking. Felt too perfect not to be intentional.
ok, So I just knew that the Zombie Mountain wouldn't just fight for her. So know we all know that part at least was correct. There was also a hint that she is ready to hit the nuke button. This will all will have to wait for tjhe final ep.
Next up is the BIG set piece mega battle.
They seem to be grossly outnumbered but at least this flag is flying by their side:
Next up is the BIG set piece mega battle.
They seem to be grossly outnumbered but at least this flag is flying by their side:
So Edmure and his bride are carried out on everyone's shoulders and then the massacre that was the red wedding commenced. I thought at the time that the Frey's must have just cut his throat once he was out of the room. We later learned he was not killed, but taken prisoner and locked up. Okay, I can see a reason for that. But what does not make an iota of sense is that they allowed Edmure to enjoy his wedding night with his beautiful bride first. Why on Earth would they do that? It makes zero sense to me. No sex means she could just have been married off to someone else. For example, Marjery married Tommen after Joffrey. Were they just banking on Edmure knocking her up in one shot? These past few weeks have had more head scratchers I think than all the past seasons combined.
As is customary in the GOT world, and which comes out much more clearly in the books, Edmure was taken hostage as insurance against any retribution.
So what is most likely to happen in the battle of the bastards?
- Ramsay's forces totally dominate and annihilate Jon's army - Sansa is killed, Davos is killed, the Wildings all die, but Jon somehow survives again. End game for GOT is Jon, Dany and Tyrion, each flying a dragon (because they're really all Targaryen, duh!) for the final epic battle against the Knight King.
- Ramsay's forces initially dominated but just as Jon's army was about to lose ...... here comes the knights of the Vale to the rescue! Ramsay is killed, Rickon is killed, Thormund is killed. However, Sansa kills Littlefinger anyway.
- Ramsay's forces initially dominated but just as Jon's army was about to lose ....... here comes the Riverrun Army, headed by Blackfish, who was resurrected by Thoros of Myr - of course it would mean the Brotherhood without Banners also joined the Riverrun forces in saving the day. Jon's new army now includes the Hound, Beric Dondarrion, Thormund, the Wilding Giant and Brienne of Thart. Everyone in Westeros and Essos agree they should all just surrender - including Dany and her three dragons.
- Ramsay's forces initially dominated but then out of nowhere, Bran shows up, wargs into Ramsay and orders his army to stand down. Ramsay is killed. Starks reunite to form the Fantastic Starks - Arya joins them also of course.
- The Wilding Giant goes to town on Ramsay's forces while the rest of Jon's army sat back and watched. Ramsay's army was never really in it.
