I wouldn't talk to a board visitor that way but the difference is they come over here to spout that crap. I would agree if this were comment made by a RU fan on a Temple board. If you go to another team's board to talk Sh{t you get what you deserve.
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I wouldn't talk to a board visitor that way but the difference is they come over here to spout that crap. I would agree if this were comment made by a RU fan on a Temple board. If you go to another team's board to talk Sh{t you get what you deserve.
True, Rhule and his 2-10 team did lose on a miracle, last-minute play at Rutgers in his first year. Good thing he's been trending nothing but up since then.
I would certainly interview him if he was interested. What I am trying to figure out is whether his resume at Temple is any better than Golden or Addazio. I think better than Addazio but wasn't Golden the guy who got things going a bit down there? Addazio maintained and Rhule has built it back. Will be interesting to see how they do against Houston this weekend.
Temple is nothing more than a weigh station for a coach to prove himself and then move on to something better. Temple had a very fine year and kudos to the players and Ruhle. But it wasn't that long ago that the program was so pathetic that Temple was asked to leave the Big East in football. And with so many key seniors leaving this year , I doubt Temple will be that relevant next year.
I'm going to take a guess the the poster TforTemple is not actually from Temple. Has the MO of the professional troll ncaaballs all over his posts.
I think your team will be fine in 2016...but 2017 might be a much different story. Believe me, having 'guys' doesn't always equal having 'quality depth' (a mistake Rutgers fans make all too often).
...as far as the tu1 clown, well, he can continue to be a clown all he wants. I don't take clowns seriously.
Joe P.
LMAO you sound so much like Rutgers fans did in late 2006/ 2006-07 offseason it's scary.
"We have Rice, Teel, Britt, Foster and the OL coming back"
"No worse than 9-3"
"10-2 again and this time we win the conference"
....sure pal, no problem...
Joe P.
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Give Temple credit. They had 1 good year. Rhule is supposed to get a new contract and he's doing well get 2 star kids and making them players. Of course, RU at 8-5 last year was a good year. I doubt this guy will be back next year after those seniors leave but we'll see.
Don't think Rhule was under consideration anyway. RU has stated they're going after coaches who can compete in the Big 10. Rhule isn't one of them. No offense meant to Rhule.
Don't think Rhule was under consideration anyway. RU has stated they're going after coaches who can compete in the Big 10. Rhule isn't one of them. No offense meant to Rhule.
I think Rhule's legit but many here are underestimating the loss of players like Kyle Friend (an NFL-bound center), Robbie Anderson and Tyler Macketevich (sic). They think they're just going to plug guys in and go. I think otherwise.
Joe P.
Joe P.
With the BC coaches recruits. He loses a lot this year so we will see what kind of coach he is if he stays.
I'm starting to hope we poach Temple's coach just to piss off their fans. Both of them are now piling into the thread and causing a disturbance.
Rutgers Football has admittedly been a dumpster fire this year. That is one year out of 12 years, during which we knocked off several top-5 teams, made 9 bowl games, and were admitted to the B1G conference. Rutgers' worst coach in recent history, now fired for poor performance, still managed to beat Temple twice, including a game in which Rutgers fans who supposedly don't care basically took over Lincoln Financial Field. And I'll specifically ask the trash-talking clowns in this thread again: who is the only Division 1 team to ever get kicked out of a football conference for continually being a dumpster fire that lacked support? After poor football on and off the field this year, Rutgers' admin fired both the coach and athletic director at a significant expense; you can bet your bottom dollar it was at least in part due to fan expectations for success.
Temple is having a great season, and their fans should enjoy it. But once the many seniors on the team graduate and coach potentially leaves (this year, or undoubtably next year IF the success is sustained), then what exactly will you expect to continue talking trash about. Playing in the almighty AAC, or in a half-full NFL stadium, except when TTFP or the Domers come to town?
Temple is having a great season, and their fans should enjoy it. But once the many seniors on the team graduate and coach potentially leaves (this year, or undoubtably next year IF the success is sustained), then what exactly will you expect to continue talking trash about. Playing in the almighty AAC, or in a half-full NFL stadium, except when TTFP or the Domers come to town?
Why is temple so mad....they have a team...or at least a HC that they can hold...don't they,
Well, for starters, Temple is apparently much more tolerant of delusional forum members like the waterboy: @TforTempleU1.
JoeP,
Total agreement with you that 2017 is the season to see whether we can maintain momentum. Key in 2016 is to ensure that PJ's successor, Frank Nutile, gets plenty of PT.
Big IF, but if our staff remains intact, I can envision recruiting improving. We won't get 5 stars, but I could see us landing more 3s and a sprinkling of 4s.
Total agreement with you that 2017 is the season to see whether we can maintain momentum. Key in 2016 is to ensure that PJ's successor, Frank Nutile, gets plenty of PT.
Big IF, but if our staff remains intact, I can envision recruiting improving. We won't get 5 stars, but I could see us landing more 3s and a sprinkling of 4s.
Spot-on. I haven't been following Temple closely this season but from what I can tell, your squad has a lot of parallels to our 2006 team:
-upperclassmen laden defense, with 3-4 year starters on the DL and at LB
-minimal injuries
-great team chemistry
While these factors are big, they are not static. Teams change from year-to-year. Other teams get better/worse- just look at USF and UCF. Today's 4-8 squad can become tomorrow's 9-3 squad...and many players, no matter how many stars they were ranked, aren't just 'plug, play and its A-OK'. How will people respond when you hit a 2,3+ game skid? How will they respond when you get upset by someone? How will the fanbase respond?
Joe P.
Looking at their team objectively going forward, which I admit is hard to do, yes, they lose some key players next year, but they also return a Sr. QB who has set a school for most TDs, their starting RB, some good receivers and it looks on paper to be at least two out of their 5 starting OL. The key on offense will be that OL, if they get that settled they have the potential to put a lot of points up. On defense, the lose their star, that Matakevich (sp?) kid, so they probably will be needing their offense to click at least at the beginning of the year. Going forward remember they have Frank Nutile waiting in the wings to take over at QB, nothing spectacular, but we are talking about the AAC. I could see them putting up 8-10 wins for the next few years, but who knows.
I don't know where our fanbase stands right now. Have the Eagles being lousy this season helped? Possibly. I think it's going to take us going on a successful run in which we win 8 games or more over the course of 5-10 seasons to see if we can maintain an average gate of 30k+. Obviously, if we can knock of PSU again next season, it's going to open more eyes and get more people to accept that this season wasn't a fluke.
AAC, while it doesn't get the attention of a P5, isn't shabby. I expect Cincy to bounce back. USF has 2 big time players on offense that can carry them in 2016 and Diaco is doing a pretty good job bringing back UConn. I don't think ECU is going to remain mediocre either. The games are battles and I can easily see us losing 3 games in league. I like the talent that is replacing the core 10 that are graduating, but there's no question our opponents are going to do everything possible to expose their youth. It may take them until the middle of the season for them to get comfortable in their roles but I also think that we're capable of going on a lengthy bowl run similar to what you guys did in the mid 2000s.
What we're doing now on the field and with the new administration is better positioning us for when the next round of musical chairs begins and it's going to happen once the ACC's GOR expires. By that time, if we've done what we have needed to do, coupled with being located in the 4th largest media market, you'll see Philadelphia become a CFB town. Still have lots of work to do. I can tell you this much, if we had this administration running the show in the '90s, we wouldn't be in the AAC today.
AAC, while it doesn't get the attention of a P5, isn't shabby. I expect Cincy to bounce back. USF has 2 big time players on offense that can carry them in 2016 and Diaco is doing a pretty good job bringing back UConn. I don't think ECU is going to remain mediocre either. The games are battles and I can easily see us losing 3 games in league. I like the talent that is replacing the core 10 that are graduating, but there's no question our opponents are going to do everything possible to expose their youth. It may take them until the middle of the season for them to get comfortable in their roles but I also think that we're capable of going on a lengthy bowl run similar to what you guys did in the mid 2000s.
What we're doing now on the field and with the new administration is better positioning us for when the next round of musical chairs begins and it's going to happen once the ACC's GOR expires. By that time, if we've done what we have needed to do, coupled with being located in the 4th largest media market, you'll see Philadelphia become a CFB town. Still have lots of work to do. I can tell you this much, if we had this administration running the show in the '90s, we wouldn't be in the AAC today.
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NOTE: This was in response to the Temple fan saying his renewal was $100 less.
Actually, it is likely $100 cheaper because they don't host Penn State AND Notre Dame in the upcoming season. Which home slate is worth more money?
2015
Penn State
Tulane
UCF
Notre Dame
Memphis
UConn
2016
Army
Stony Brook
Charlotte
Cincinnati
ECU
USF
SMU
Actually, it is likely $100 cheaper because they don't host Penn State AND Notre Dame in the upcoming season. Which home slate is worth more money?
2015
Penn State
Tulane
UCF
Notre Dame
Memphis
UConn
2016
Army
Stony Brook
Charlotte
Cincinnati
ECU
USF
SMU
Yeah, I think that's fair and shows a knowledgeable historical perspective. I don't guarantee anything; I just say it projects better in the next couple years. You know as well as anyone that projections are worthless until the games are played, and nothing is guaranteed. But, theoretically, the talent that is now being worked in or redshirting is better than much of who currently plays. It remains to be seen how that turns out.
I remember saying back then that the distance from bottom-feeder to good/very good (such as that 2006 RU team) might not even be as long to travel as the distance between good/very good to great. That is the elusive step that most schools cannot manage. And as long as Temple remains outside the Power 5, I don't think "great" is realistic. All they can do is try to maintain "good" or even "very good" within the context they play, and try to make themselves a plausible option for, say, the ACC if another round of expansion comes. But again, if you compare that to the Temple that was booted from the Big East for not taking the sport seriously, that's some pretty impressive progress.
...except Rutgers is NOT a move up, and Rhule - who just turned down the SEC to remain at TU - isn't even interested.
Silly details.
He didn't turn down the SEC....He decided Mizzou wasn't where he wanted to be.....same as when they ''Mizzou'' held off the SEC to get into the B1G but the B1G wasn't at the time interested so hat in hand went SEC......and why haunt us with constant MR updates..we follow the news...haven''t you heard..were in the middle of a coaching search now..BTW...if he wasn't ''interested''...why apply and interview.As long as he interviews be wary.
Rhule doesn't want anything public leading up to game with UofH. Wait until sat night when things will start coming out. This is his perfect chance to jump. Waiting 1 year is a gamble. The questions is not IF he leaves TU, it's when and where.
Agree with much of what you and OF- NJ are saying (OFNJ has been around the boards for a while and has always been even-keeled and knowledgeable ) I know TU fans are understandingly excited but when a few clowns come here and start beating their chests and acting like everything occurs in a vacuum, it's a bit disingenuous. I agree with your point on historical context which is why I find some of the more ignorant remarks that much funnier (some TU fans seem to forget their own history as well as ours) and some are just oblivious to the different variables and issues that non-elite teams have to deal with (only perhaps 5-10 schools truly just 'reload' every year).
...something else I forgot; I think our 2007 team returned something like 7-8 starters on offense and at least 6-7 on defense, including almost the entire secondary and both safeties...and we went 8-5 with a 4th-tier bowl win.
Joe P.
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You seem like a reasonable poster not like some of your fellow Owl fans. Do yourself a favor mark down that Army game in 2017 and take the Sea Streak out of Atlantic Highlands you won't be disappointed. My group of 12 went this year and afterwards we all agreed to take a trip up next year just to see Army. It truly is a bucket list game if your into college football.
Joe. Correct, but remember this; that was the year Teel hurt his throwing hand in the MD game early on. When it healed later on, he was absolutely dynamite and thus the team. The following year, his first 5 or 6 games, he could not hit the water from the beach (ala Ray Lukas). Then, the Pitt game, he destroyed the Panthers and won out the rest of the season.
True, but '07 was the season where we struggled greatly with power running teams due to the loss of Meekins, Frierson (sic) and Devraun Thompson...3 senior starters on D...only 3 starters, no big deal, right??? We lost the Maryland and UL games because of this.
Joe P.
Koleszar,
I love the games at West Point and am glad we have Army as an OOC opponent. I enjoy playing them. I live in Morris County, just off of 80, so it's easier for me to just hop in the car and hit 287 North. I can make it to their campus in about an hour.
Our fanbase is no different than what you see at other schools in that we have our share of tools. I try not to take any of the smack personally unless it's a true dig at my alma mater and then I'll come back with guns blazing.
A day doesn't go by in which I'm not pissed for the total incompetence of the BE. I know this is wishful thinking on my part, but what I hope happens in the next round of realignment is to see schools come to the realization that a conference in their geographic footprint is the best option and the only one that makes total sense. I think an Eastern Conference that has all of the original independents in addition to MD, Cincy and UConn would certainly be P5 caliber and could secure a tv deal that made all of its members extremely wealthy and successful. Probably never happen though because it makes too much sense.
I love the games at West Point and am glad we have Army as an OOC opponent. I enjoy playing them. I live in Morris County, just off of 80, so it's easier for me to just hop in the car and hit 287 North. I can make it to their campus in about an hour.
Our fanbase is no different than what you see at other schools in that we have our share of tools. I try not to take any of the smack personally unless it's a true dig at my alma mater and then I'll come back with guns blazing.
A day doesn't go by in which I'm not pissed for the total incompetence of the BE. I know this is wishful thinking on my part, but what I hope happens in the next round of realignment is to see schools come to the realization that a conference in their geographic footprint is the best option and the only one that makes total sense. I think an Eastern Conference that has all of the original independents in addition to MD, Cincy and UConn would certainly be P5 caliber and could secure a tv deal that made all of its members extremely wealthy and successful. Probably never happen though because it makes too much sense.
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Will you come back to this thread and admit you were wrong when Rhule doesn't leave TU??
Good point. But if they keep Rhule, they're going to have to give him a big raise too. If he stays and they manage to have another good season, I would imagine ticket prices will rise some.
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