He made cuts today that he hasn't made all year. He looked 100% or close to it. A healthy Brown and Monangai could make our backfield one of the better ones in the country.
Football INSTANT REACTION: Rutgers defeats Miami 31-24 in Pinstripe Bowl
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So while we are on that subject let’s consider several things . I have been a longtime fan of Rutgers.I have been a season ticket holder in basketball and football some 43 years. . I am a proud alum. I also believe you as former player would give a fair assessment of players and coaches. I didn’t think your posting today was anything close to being objective. Immediately you instead of showing pride knocked this QB. Now saying you haven’t commented all year. I assume you not only played here but received a degree from Rutgers. My gripe is if you and others feel this way give Greg a call and tell him.I doubt you have or ever would. Gavin Wimsatt helped us to a win… sometimes things take a little longer. Our D is becoming better and better… special teams are just that SPECIAL ... the O line has certainly developed …the runnng back position is pretty ok too.Kirk only called 15 pass plays … Gavin hit on 7 … Rutgers fans would like those 300 + plus passing games 3-4 TD’s … would not rule that out yet for next season. Gavin’s issue is he get’s over hyped when looking to hit his receiver …..his tendency is to release the ball slightly high. He made some very good throws with touch today… he also will have a pretty decent group of receivers next season. We won today against a still good opponent. We got hosed on several calls and made some dumb penalties … Lewis needs to move inside … add 10-15 lbs… his face mask grabs Inbelieve due to being just a tad behind in pursuit .Keep in mind I love this guy. Yes we could have a special year in 2024.
I usually agree with you but in this case I think you are wrong.
We win in spite of Gavin. He doesn’t even run anymore.
Next year could be 2006 all over if we have even half decent QB play.
How many more yards would Kyle and Sam have if we had a real threat at QB?
Another month of practice and he didn’t improve.
Next year could be 2006 all over if we have even half decent QB play.
How many more yards would Kyle and Sam have if we had a real threat at QB?
Another month of practice and he didn’t improve.
Quite the dumb statement as usual. How many rushes did KM and SB have? Add in the few that Gavin did have. He doesn’t have to run … we have a running back room which is stocked pretty well .He had the gameplay and handled it well . Only had 8 actual practices … Gavin will be the QB…
Teel was more accurate than GW. He also had NFL WRs and TE to throw to.
Threw 13 INTs that year. Not saying I don’t like Mike Teel, just saying that I think Wimsatt needs a chance to keep developing.
None of that is controversial. I’m shocked we have some fans that don’t see that.
It doesn’t mean he didn’t throw the ball better… he actually only had 15 attempts… Far below the norm… and the reason being in we are right now a running team .
I agree that GW needs more time to develop but in college football in 2023 you don’t actually have to develop a QB because of the portal. is there a QB in the portal ready to go right now? It’s a different path forward that might be beneficial for the team.
One of the traits of our fanbase is that we eat our own.
Mostly correct. He’s not a remotely capable QB and it says a lot about the other players, and yes the coaching to win as much as they do with this anchor. I pray Schiano moves on from GW today but I don’t think he will. He’s enamored with this kid type of game we saw yesterday. Defense, ST score and ground game. The receivers are only there to keep DBs lined up away from the ball.
But, players don’t improve over a three week period. Monangai didn’t improve. Dixon didn’t improve. That’s not how it works.
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likey Jersey fans of Miami who repeat all the nonsense about how their tax dollars get wasted on RU football. Had someone this week mention the helicopter.. "they gave him (Schiano) a $5M house and helicopter". And this was someone who is not even a fan of college football.. just a Jersey resident.. who "heard" this was true.
What's weird is the sequence:
2021: Monangai.. averages 3.8 per rush and looks good compared to everyone else what got (team average was 3.6)
2022: KM averages 4.1 , Brown 4.3.. team 3.6 (So people more excited about Brown)
2023: KM avg 5.2 Brown 3.6 (only had B10 games and this bowl) team 4.2 avg (**Aaron Young averaged 5.9 on only 16 carries)
IMOI, it's not "funny" or even unusually that people wanted to see what a healthy Brown could do.. he seemed to outplay KM last year when both were healthy.. but maybe, just maybe, that competition made KM step up his offseason game and turned him into the monster back we saw this season. Then again, the whole OL deserves a lot of credit because that jump from 3.6ypc to 4.2ypc had a lot to do with them as well.
Whole offense gets a kudos and hope they take that into this offseason looking to improve that much again. All they need do is pass more efficiently and they won't have to run into stacked boxes all teh time.
You will see some new wrinkles next year and more use of other players. Getting 7 wins in the big East with the offense we had is a miracle . We did not have a complete offensive roster obviously and we game planned the way we had to in order to win that many games. If we chose to abandon that and try to be someone we are not we would have been blown out a lot and maybe won 3 to 4 games
Would this year's team (or, this year's bowl team) have beaten Wake Forest in the Gator Bowl, from a couple of years ago?
There’s good game coaches, there’s good recruiters, there’s good talent developers. Some coaches can do two. Some can do all. Just because we made a bowl doesn’t mean the staff is good at development. All I’m trying to say is those not happy with GW can’t lay the blame just on GW. I’m with you, I hope he really shines next year because I think we’re lucky to have him.
Except for Flaherty. He proved beyond any doubt he can develop an O line.
They’ve proven they can develop the defense and RBs too. That leaves the passing game, receivers, TEs and QB.
That team's OL.was dominant. Teel was a pretty good passer at best and a competent game manager at worst that year.
Just before the L'ville game began, Lou Holtz was on TV and called RU's line "the best in the nation."
Something I’ve been wondering about. GW had 15 passes and it makes sense as we ate up clock just running the ball.
What had me wondering is, how did Rice have 2k yards running in 2007 and somehow we were still able to throw the ball like crazy too.
What had me wondering is, how did Rice have 2k yards running in 2007 and somehow we were still able to throw the ball like crazy too.
Having a Britt, Underwood and Brown as offensive weapons along with Brock sure does help a passing attack. That team gobbled up a ton of yds between the 20s and Greg constantly settled on FG attempts by Ito.
GO RU
They averaged 4 TDs per game and 2 FGs. Doesn't sound like settling.
In losses to MD, Cinncy, WV, UConn and Lville there was a lot of settling for fgs and/or conservative playcalling inside the red zone.. Plus Ito was doing kickoffs, Punts and fgs. He was overworked.
GO RU
A kicker being overworked! They kick far more times during practice or even warmups than spaced over a 3 hour game.
A lot of the offensive stats that year were accumulated against Buffalo, Navy, Norfolk State, 2-10 cuse, 6-6 Louisville and an overmatched Ball State team in the International Bowl. The offense probably had its best overall game of the year vs. USF in terms of 'production/opponent difficulty' ratio.
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Yeah- understand all that but my question is more of- how did RR’s 2000 yards not eat every bit of clock? And still have enough time for Teel to also have so much production. Ray pretty much averaged what KM did in the bowl and there was only enough time available to only throw 15 times.
Didn't the clock rules change a couple of years ago to speed up the game? I remember reading that coaches were complaining about running fewer plays.
We didn’t run the play clock to 1 on every play
Greg relied on him too much. Ito was the Jack of trades but the master of none. Look at the three specialists we have now (Patel, Appleby and by McCatmney), all are better than Ito in each specialty. My point is that Greg in 2007 relied too much on Ito’s foot when we could have been more aggressive in play calling when RU had so many offensive weapons.
GO RU
