I wish them both well, but I can't help but be very excited about their replacements.
Matt Bullock and Souf Mensah to leave program
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Corey, Strickland, and Hyatt step on down
Starters
Baker
Sanders
Mathis
Onamuyri
Carter
Full second team off the bench
Strickland
Hyatt
Kiss
Doucoure
Johnson
Depth
Doorson
Thiam
Redshirt
Harper (grow into a PF)
Starters
Baker
Sanders
Mathis
Onamuyri
Carter
Full second team off the bench
Strickland
Hyatt
Kiss
Doucoure
Johnson
Depth
Doorson
Thiam
Redshirt
Harper (grow into a PF)
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This would be great, but still highly doubt a) Harper redshirts and b) Thiam and Doorson as juniors and seniors are just depth.
The difference is that you still aren't able to put a human face on this. They've moved on. Best of luck to them. They obviously didn't fit on the basketball court, but rooting for them to leave is not a kind thing to do. This university cannot be only about athletic success (thankfully, or else we would be a horrible university), it's about the people within it.
If just for his defense, Thiam isn’t going to get stuck behind both Mathis & Kiss, especially in B1G play.
I think FSU’s run this tourney has shown how we underrate Thiam’s defense. Mann & Angola have been Stars this tourney but they were shut down by Thiam when Rutgers played FSU.
This year’s tourney has shown us that athletic length is crucial. Elite 8 bound Kansas State is heavily recruiting Thiam (Mohamed) but folks on this board keep trying to bury the Thiam here (Issa) deep on the bench.
Makes no sense to me.
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I think this is pretty accurate but I think Johnson starts over Carter and maybe Thiam over Mathis. JMHO.
I agree. I was impressed by his post up game late in the year. And with his size if he ever learns how to score off the dribble he will be dangerous. From a distance it appears to be a confidence thing more so than ability. I bet he takes a big step forward next year and some folks around here will be eating crow.
He also showed flashes of driving to the hoop and a post game towards the end of the season. If he can keep improving on that facet of his game he could be a matchup nightmare.
He already plays quiet but outstanding D.
He'll be more than a role player his last 2 years.
Most players improve the most from year 2 to 3. I expect good things from him as long as he stays confident.
I think Thiam can be real good. Needs to take the next step skill wise and needs to go on a 7000 calorie a day diet like one of the college players did to gain weight. A significant amount of weight and strength are needed to help his game
Do you know what hindsight even means? Bullock was a known quantity. He's from NJ if you weren't aware. There was plenty of video on him to view and he played on a high profile program that any college coach worth his salt would've been aware yet no one wanted the guy. Not sure what Eugene has to do with anything. He's from Canada, showed up right before the semester started when no one was paying attention and no one knew anything about him including me so I had no opinion on whatsoever. Believe you what your want, I'm not going to lose any sleep over some dude on a message board calling people names and trying to pick fights with people. Oy vey.
That's 13. Red shirts count against your 12. So either Sanders or Doorson leave or we don't get both Strickland and Hyatt.
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You get thirteen. We had 13 this year:
Corey
Geo
Souf
M Williams
Thiam
Bullock
Eugene
Doorson
Myles
Kiss
Freeman
Doucoure
Sa
Thanks--was thinking about my on-line teams that get just 12. So--Hyatt and Strickland, vice Mulcahy on the OP's wish list?
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We'll see what happens, but a lot of fans (me included) tend to overrate recruiting and underrate development when looking at the line-up for the following season.
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I root for all of my guys st Rutgers
Thiam just doesn’t score close to enough on a points per minute basis at the small forward spot, which our total 40 minute scoring production really lacks.
He has a very limited game offensively, he doesn’t get much off the bounce and his height doesn’t translate to points on the offensive board
And he really needs a lot of time and space to get off his outside shot, without demonstrating the range beyond the tip of the stripes
In an ideal world, he would have redshirted as a frosh, and worked on bulking up and post moves as a Stretch four. We lacked depth and it didn’t happen
I think he will be passed on the depth chart and we will be better for it if we does. I think he just isn’t enough of offense on a team starved for offense
Even pike said in the court club that he is probably best being a spark on offense and I think this also
Nothing against the player...just an objective analysis on what I see
Hope he proves me wrong ...but that’s how I see it
I root for all of my guys st Rutgers
Thiam just doesn’t score close to enough on a points per minute basis at the small forward spot, which our total 40 minute scoring production really lacks.
He has a very limited game offensively, he doesn’t get much off the bounce and his height doesn’t translate to points on the offensive board
And he really needs a lot of time and space to get off his outside shot, without demonstrating the range beyond the tip of the stripes
In an ideal world, he would have redshirted as a frosh, and worked on bulking up and post moves as a Stretch four. We lacked depth and it didn’t happen
I think he will be passed on the depth chart and we will be better for it if we does. I think he just isn’t enough of offense on a team starved for offense
Even pike said in the court club that he is probably best being a spark on offense and I think this also
Nothing against the player...just an objective analysis on what I see
Hope he proves me wrong ...but that’s how I see it
It's development. It's a multi-year process.
Year 1 - All he did was shoot open shots.
Year 2 - Added some drives to the basket and a post up game.
Year 3 - continue development of outside shot, drives and post up game. Add in More confidence as a Junior as he gets stronger.
Speaking of Pikiell... I heard him say he wants Thaim to shoot more...he did not take a lot of shots he should have taken...that's just a lack of confidence. Everyone here on this board saw him pass up WAY too many opportunities to shoot or go to the basket. Confidence ?
He is already a good perimeter defender with his length.
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and if he went why would he come here when he could go to schools with certain NCAA seasons next year
Exactly!
Look at how many of the teams left in the NCAA tourney are being lead by seniors. Even the elite “1 & Done” programs like Duke, Michigan, & Nova have strong senior starters & leadership.
So I don’t know why folks want to write off a sophomor, hoping year after year that a freshman will become an instant super-star instead of looking forward to what the team will look like when Thiam & Eugene are seniors & Geo is a junior.
Hey Box...I did not even mention Rebounding...He went from maybe 1/2 a game to about 5-6 per game. All part off him developing.
Because some people always want the next new shiny toy. Short attention span. Maybe some of them have ADHD.[roll][roll][roll]
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/tests/personality/attention-span-test
Some things are better left unsaid.
Is he related to Carl Anthony Towns? I think they played together at St. Joe's in Metuchen.
Who knows, maybe he wants to come home, but if he has to sit out a year, I don't see it happening.
I think he was going to switch to Bullock's diet, but now that he is gone, I don't know if that is going to happen.
If Thiam goes from starter to role player we are going dancing!
I don't see how Thiam drops this much. I think you're expecting too much from the freshman.
Yeah you can sub out Mathis for kiss on that list of starters..Mathis has work to do on his all around shooting game and kiss has been one of our most impressive players in practice.
So we are 1000-1 to make the NCAAs next year? I'll bet you $10 on RU. Please confirm. $$$$
Actually ...I made a legit statement. He just doesn’t score enough in the minutes he played and he got a LOT of minutes when Williams was out.
I just don’t see that improving a lot
We need to improve our scoring...and the weakest places we scored last year was from the 3 and 5 spots on offense.
I just don’t ever see him scoring 12 points a game in 27 minutes from the three spot. That’s the typical “average” number you need from a starter at the three spot from a winning power five team and I think kids coming have the potential to grow into those numbers....
