NJ State Wrestling Championships Thread:
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Correct. If McKenzie wasn’t focused on football, he would be #1 in the country at 182. Tremendous talent. Once Janzer won the toss and got the first point, he didn’t need to be aggressive. He played it smart from that time on. I was down in AC; Janzer might have had the most takedowns in the whole tournament.
Janzer looked dominant all tournament but always wrestles tight matches against tough competition. (Escape the Rock finals, Paulsboro, and BC have all gone to OT/UTB). Love his aggressive style, but needs to keep pushing the action against better kids. In college, wrestler constantly winning tight matches get caught eventually.
Either way, big win for him today and looking forward to seeing him wearing the Block R at the RAC.
Either way, big win for him today and looking forward to seeing him wearing the Block R at the RAC.
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Nice try. I'm usually right. List all these usual times I overreact and I'm wrong.
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Janzers goal was to win the championship, not provide entertainment to the crowd. Sometimes wrestling smart according to a plan takes priority over gun slinging .. all depends on your opponent
Bottom line, Janzer is state champ again
Bottom line, Janzer is state champ again
I understand that and I'm glad he won it again. My concern is not enough offense against the top HS talent will hurt him in college if he doesn't change his style and look to score against that top talent. Just look at several on the team now and in the past.
As soon as Janzer won the toss to start the second, he knew what his strategy would be. He clearly has enough confidence in his defense and counter attacks to win big HS matches. If the ref isn't calling for action from either wrestler, why risk a shot that can lose you the mach?
Mekhi Lewis wrestled Janzer last year. Lewis won 2-1 in OT. Lewis won 5-3 in the state final. He is 28-2 during his Redshirt year. Would you make the same claim about him?
Ashnault won his matches leading up to his Senior state title with a 4-2 decision vs. Dinmore and a 3-1 decision vs. Richie Lewis. Would you make the same claim about him?
I think this is the correct answer to a lot of comments and questions about the sport that I see in various online forums...
To be honest, these are the types of kids who we typically recruit. Dominant against inferior wrestlers, not aggressive/offensive against top quality HS wrestlers. On the other hand, only extremely special wrestlers dominate top HS talent in the state tournament (Glory, Ashnault, Suriano, etc). Rarely are we going to recruit those types of wrestlers, at this point in our program. IMO.
However, from what I've seen and heard, Janzer is promising and is trying to score points in most of his matches he wrestles. I read a quote recently after he won regionals that he was disappointed he didnt score more points.
Well, we recruit them...they just don't commit :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
He didn't say he wrestled Janzer in the state finals. They wrestled during the season.
Just to add to that even Suriano won his last final against Agaisse 5-2.
Janzer will be fine - He wrestled McKenzie who is a phenomenal athlete and beat him for the state title that's what matters.
What planet were you on ...pin round one .then 14-15-13 points with two majors then the final ....how much more offense did he need to display .. two state titles ...I guess you really have no clue when you say he has no offense.
Go back and read my posts. My concern is against the top competition, not the lesser. Hopefully, it's unwarranted, but I've seen too often that it doesn't translate well to being very successful in college (think All American).
I noticed the one brother had a block R hat on.:) Anyway their farm has the same animals our farm does. Chickens, they have Berkshire pigs we have Kune Kune pigs they have Scottish Highland cattle we have miniature Scottish Highland cattle. Only difference is their farm is a real working farm, our farm is a hobby farm.
Fernandes reminds me a lot like Jimmy Lawson, especially being the rarity of a heavy that throws legs on top. Jimmy still goes down as the greatst HWT to wrestle in NJ, but I think Fernandes can develop into a top prospect with more weight. It would be a huge mistake if Rutgers doesn't do everything in their power to get him.
Janzer is a top prospect and I have no doubt in him. But saying he is ranked in the top 3 means nothing going into college. There are WAY too many examples of top college prospects barely even getting on the podium for the first time their RS Senior year. He wrestled a great tourney, I think with a Redshirt year under his belt, he'll tremendously improve his top game and offensive attacks. You can't win in college with cranking on a underhook for a minute and half.
Edit: New to the board, all of a sudden I keep getting a message there is a certain number of messages I can post in a day. Anyone know how I can fix this? Mods?
Janzer is a top prospect and I have no doubt in him. But saying he is ranked in the top 3 means nothing going into college. There are WAY too many examples of top college prospects barely even getting on the podium for the first time their RS Senior year. He wrestled a great tourney, I think with a Redshirt year under his belt, he'll tremendously improve his top game and offensive attacks. You can't win in college with cranking on a underhook for a minute and half.
Edit: New to the board, all of a sudden I keep getting a message there is a certain number of messages I can post in a day. Anyone know how I can fix this? Mods?
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If ok to self promote I decided to write a little something that I was curious about after the NJSIAA wrestling this past weekend.
http://true-wrestling.com/2018/03/the-elite-eight-from-2018-njsiaa-wrestling-championships/
http://true-wrestling.com/2018/03/the-elite-eight-from-2018-njsiaa-wrestling-championships/
Nice article. Would love to see the names of the other 4x place winners (Ashnault and Suriano come to mind) and see how they did/are doing in college.
Great article- I did some research on my own and saw that Glasgow did not make weight his freshman year at regions as the 1 seed.He would have probably placed his freshmen year too.
Great stuff on the wrestlers..
