I would love to add him to our team. He is supposedly a great guy, a good player and a very good student. On top of that he was recruited by Steve and Jay. It is a no brainer.
Let's look at whether this player and ask the question.
Is this player on tape (not percentages) more physically capable than Issa Thiam?? Yes
Is this player capable of playing more than 25 minutes a game?? Yea, he's been a starter averaging more minutes per game.
Is this player capable of playing in a pinch, for Eugene Omoyuri, who has now dislocated his knee twice in consecutive seasons?....Yes.
I am pretty certain that fans only equate what recruits matter based on the stats or recruiting rankings or eye test. You only have 3 real ways to know and it's based on the eye test first, not stats or where the recruit was ranked.
We didn't have Eugene for 3 games and he essentially played for the bulk of his games after the injury on 1 leg. If Issa Thiam or Peter Kiss stepped into Eugene's role, then I could see maybe passing on this type of player.
But with Harper in his 1st year, Caleb in his 1st year, Montez and others, it was trial by fire.
I am not in favor of taking a grad transfer....i didn't want one last year at PG or SF and preferred to give those minutes to Caleb, Harper, Mathis and Kiss.
I know we have fans afraid of relying on Carter, Myles and Doucoure at the 5....we don't need another big for this coming season, 3 bigs playing the 5 is enough, if you add a Yeboah at the 3 or 4 and play Harper at the 4 for some games, with Caleb at the 3 vs Point.
This coming season in 2019-2020, I would rather have another freshman added to the potential lineup or a sitout transfer vs an u known grad transfer that no one knows will fit in with the staff or program. This isn't the case here.
In Yeboah, those potential fits make sense. He knows our staff already and was recruited specifically by Pike and Jay Young. There's not going to be a lack of awareness on work ethic or what to expect. In this case, it is a player that assuredly is better than Thiam or Kiss and fits our rotation off the bench.
Do I think Yeboah is good enough to start for this season over Mathis or Harper?? Maybe, but I don't think that makes sense for one year or the development of either player. I would take Yeboah as insurance for Eugene's knee, off the bench for 20 minutes or so a game, when Harper has 2 quick fouls or Mathis has foul trouble.
There are situations in 20+ B1G games or other key games, where you have to have a reliable contributor off the bench. This roster had Kiss, Thiam, McConnell and Myles Johnson. Myles is now a starter which limits the front court depth to Carter and Doucoure.....that's not enough depth IMO.
If Yeboah is interested in competing for minutes and can give RU 18 to 24 quality minutes off the bench, then he's a fit.
So basically u want a grad transfer whos going to the nba. Got itI agree with this but can’t see why a grad transfer would come here to potentially get Thiam’s minutes or slightly more. I really only want a grad transfer if he’s a bigger kid, a lockdown defender, or a better shooter than Yeboah is.
Very succinct.Let's look at whether this player and ask the question.
Is this player on tape (not percentages) more physically capable than Issa Thiam?? Yes
Is this player capable of playing more than 25 minutes a game?? Yea, he's been a starter averaging more minutes per game.
Is this player capable of playing in a pinch, for Eugene Omoyuri, who has now dislocated his knee twice in consecutive seasons?....Yes.
I am pretty certain that fans only equate what recruits matter based on the stats or recruiting rankings or eye test. You only have 3 real ways to know and it's based on the eye test first, not stats or where the recruit was ranked.
We didn't have Eugene for 3 games and he essentially played for the bulk of his games after the injury on 1 leg. If Issa Thiam or Peter Kiss stepped into Eugene's role, then I could see maybe passing on this type of player.
But with Harper in his 1st year, Caleb in his 1st year, Montez and others, it was trial by fire.
I am not in favor of taking a grad transfer....i didn't want one last year at PG or SF and preferred to give those minutes to Caleb, Harper, Mathis and Kiss.
I know we have fans afraid of relying on Carter, Myles and Doucoure at the 5....we don't need another big for this coming season, 3 bigs playing the 5 is enough, if you add a Yeboah at the 3 or 4 and play Harper at the 4 for some games, with Caleb at the 3 vs Point.
This coming season in 2019-2020, I would rather have another freshman added to the potential lineup or a sitout transfer vs an u known grad transfer that no one knows will fit in with the staff or program. This isn't the case here.
In Yeboah, those potential fits make sense. He knows our staff already and was recruited specifically by Pike and Jay Young. There's not going to be a lack of awareness on work ethic or what to expect. In this case, it is a player that assuredly is better than Thiam or Kiss and fits our rotation off the bench.
Do I think Yeboah is good enough to start for this season over Mathis or Harper?? Maybe, but I don't think that makes sense for one year or the development of either player. I would take Yeboah as insurance for Eugene's knee, off the bench for 20 minutes or so a game, when Harper has 2 quick fouls or Mathis has foul trouble.
There are situations in 20+ B1G games or other key games, where you have to have a reliable contributor off the bench. This roster had Kiss, Thiam, McConnell and Myles Johnson. Myles is now a starter which limits the front court depth to Carter and Doucoure.....that's not enough depth IMO.
If Yeboah is interested in competing for minutes and can give RU 18 to 24 quality minutes off the bench, then he's a fit.
Very succinct.
If many of the the posts in this thread, instead of what they have been, had been properly muted and suggested that this player could replace Thiam, help when Omo is hurt, come off the bench and maybe surprise and be an even greater contributor, as you just wrote (I think; i did lose my concentration along the way) likely no one would have suggested otherwise.
Still have nightmares of some of the passes Kiss threw.
How many seasons of eligibility does Kiss have left?
So basically u want a grad transfer whos going to the nba. Got it
Yeboah can play the 3-5, shoots as well as geo from 3, is a very very good defender at the 4. What more can you ask for?Yeah because all big kids like Doorson or lockdown defenders go to the NBA....lol
There’s an “or” in there, not an “and”.
Yeboah can play the 3-5, shoots as well as geo from 3, is a very very good defender at the 4. What more can you ask for?
And Geo's shooting numbers will improve substantially from the two guard.If he’s that good of a defender at the 4 in the B1G, I wouldn’t be against it. He just seems very small for that to be true. If you are saying he could have defended Pardon in the first NW game or the kid from Illinois who killed us, and be willing to be a rotational player, I’d like it. That seems like a lot to ask. Remember, he would be taking time away from the development of our younger players.
Also, Geo has those stats playing against B1G defenses. Less than Geo, and those shooting stats aren’t very impressive.
Would it kill you to watch his game tape vs south carolina that I have in the original post so you can see him defend 2 7-footers?If he’s that good of a defender at the 4 in the B1G, I wouldn’t be against it. He just seems very small for that to be true. If you are saying he could have defended Pardon in the first NW game or the kid from Illinois who killed us, and be willing to be a rotational player, I’d like it. That seems like a lot to ask. Remember, he would be taking time away from the development of our younger players.
Also, Geo has those stats playing against B1G defenses. Less than Geo, and those shooting stats aren’t very impressive.
Lacking in size? I believe RU ranked third in the country this past season in average height per player, so even with losing Shaq we are still near the top.Yeah, but he's moving up big-time in level, plus your lineup is lacking in size, which could be a real problem against many (not all) B1G teams, especially defensively, but I agree it's a pretty attractive lineup under certain conditions.Highly sought after grad transfers dont come in to come off the bench. Pike has told guys he's all about finishers, not starters so personally I don't think myles would have any problem coming off the bench. But with Geo-Young-Harper-Yeboah we have 4 legitimate 3 point threats on the 4 creating a ton of space for eugene inside
Lacking in size? I believe RU ranked third in the country this past season in average height per player, so even with losing Shaq we are still near the top.
And what makes you think about a kiss comparison at all? This kid is money. I mean I can compare a bottle of grey goose to a bottle of tobasco sauce and it doesn't mean it's a good comparison. They are two entirely different players..why does nobody seem to want Eugene insurance? The people in this thread sticking their nose up to this kid should learn their place and where we stand right now. Blows my mind..we would be beyond lucky to land this kid because he would land at a far better basketball school than ours if we didn't have pikiell to give us a fighting chance.This was the argument in favor of Kiss as well.
I was talking about that lineup with nobody over 6'7" (as if anyone believes EO is 6'8") - so yes, lacking in size...
And what makes you think about a kiss comparison at all? This kid is money. I mean I can compare a bottle of grey goose to a bottle of tobasco sauce and it doesn't mean it's a good comparison. They are two entirely different players..why does nobody seem to want Eugene insurance? The people in this thread sticking their nose up to this kid should learn their place and where we stand right now. Blows my mind..we would be beyond lucky to land this kid because he would land at a far better basketball school than ours if we didn't have pikiell to give us a fighting chance.
He is a big who can knock down FTs and you people don't want him. Head examinations for all please. You need it.
Look, I agree with KYK here so it HAS to be good for RU!! Lets go Pike! :-)Yeboah can play the 3-5, shoots as well as geo from 3, is a very very good defender at the 4. What more can you ask for?
Nate Sestina - grad transfer from Bucknell?If he wants to come to RU we take him. Still need another 4/5 though.
well everyone and their mother knows he's a grad transfer. so it's not really a surpriseImportant tidbit from the Newsday SB coaching article today....
Stony Brook confirmed Friday that Yeboah, a first-team all-America East player, placed his name in the transfer portal, giving him the option to leave. He is on track to graduate, meaning that as a graduate student transfer, he would not have to sit out a season before playing.
Yeah, I wasn't expecting anyone to be surprised. The point is that it is that both the transfer and the academic status of graduate are both now confirmed in the press. Carry on pontif....