For us lifelong Jet fans, an appropriate ending for the Belichick era in New England. To quote my oldest son … a huge Jet fan (using a famous Donald Pleasance line from Halloween) “The evil is gone …he’s gone from here”.
OT: 2023 NY Jets Season Thread
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Jets will be picking 10th in the April draft. Would've been 6th had they lost, but too bad. Was worth it to give Belichick such a nice sendoff.
Jets must go for offense in the draft. Possibilities include:
I am sure that Douglas and Saleh will thoroughly research this and make their recommendation. But a decision of this magnitude will no doubt require signoff from the top. From the Jets' President of Football Operations, and Chief Medical Officer, Aaron Rodgers.
(OK just kidding about the Chief Medical Officer part.)
Jets must go for offense in the draft. Possibilities include:
- Left tackle - but the elite ones will likely be gone.
- WR2 to complement G. Wilson - an elite one should be available.
- Maybe future QB? They're due to get this right eventually.
I am sure that Douglas and Saleh will thoroughly research this and make their recommendation. But a decision of this magnitude will no doubt require signoff from the top. From the Jets' President of Football Operations, and Chief Medical Officer, Aaron Rodgers.
(OK just kidding about the Chief Medical Officer part.)
Rodgers will surely want Adams.
Regardless I wouldn’t trust Douglas and or Saleh with any draft decisions.
They hit a home run two years ago with Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, Jermaine Johnson, and Breece Hall.
The Jets obviously need to emphasize the OL in the draft. We’ll see how it plays out with the available top OTs in RD1. I’m glad they beat NE in Belichick’s last game, no matter what it may have cost them in the 2024 draft. They needed to end the ridiculous losing streak to them. Also, a good way to send out Belichick, who always seemed to enjoy torturing the Jets for reasons that I don’t quite understand. He wanted to get away from Parcell’s shadow, which I understand , but the Jet organization never did anything to him other than offer him the HC job.
Jets desperately need OL and receivers. Majority of their picks need to be on the offensive side.
Correct with the above. Excellent draft indeed.
However They struck out a lot as well a la Becton / Zach Wilson / McDonald / Denzel Mims etc.
And I still can’t get my head around the lack of an OL this year / the lack of an effective back up QB and the signings of Hardman and D Cook.
Yeah those were some pretty bad whiffs, although I would say that the jury is still out on McDonald. We'll see what he's got next year, after Huff has cashed in elsewhere.
As far as the signings (Tim Boyle?) and non-signings, one must wonder how much influence Rodgers has wielded.
The sad reality is that the Jets are pot-committed to Rodgers. They are in win-now mode, hell or high water. They'll trade draft picks if they think it will help, which it probably won't. And they won't spend a high pick drafting Rodgers' replacement, because Rodgers does not benefit from that.
That’s why I expect Adams to be a Jet - draft picks be damned !
I only included McDonald only because I hated the pick given what the needs were.
The Wilson situation is analogous to the Darnold situation three years earlier. The Jets got a 2, a 4, and a 6 for him. I doubt that they'll get anything close to that for Wilson, but who knows.
Everything you said is why the McDonald pick was even worse.
You don’t go “all in” in most areas, then draft an Edge you aren’t going to need for at least a year instead of helping a position group that is horribly weak like their OL,
Hopefully a guy who most people have forgotten about, Alijah Vera-Tucker, can make a full recovery and help stabilize the O line a bit.
Given where the Jets drafted in 2023 and who was available, I had no problem with the McDonald pick. It’s way too early to say he is a miss, he started to play much more late in the season. In the NFL, you can never have enough edge talent. In the 2024 draft they should be able to land one of top OTs in rd 1.
I think Jets and Giants both need to steer clear of the physical beasts that cant move.
Giants love those 6' 6" 330lb guys benching 225 37x (Flowers)
Get guys who are athletes like All Pro Tristan Wirfs.
Dude was 330 and 6' 5" but he ran a 4.85 40 and did backflips
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I always hear OL dont need to be fast and thats right but if a huge guy runs a 4.85 he's a specimen (Flowers ran a 5.35)
Jets Becton was so huge (6' 7" 370 lbs) he couldn't heal his knee injures after hitting 400+ lbs
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Wirfs
Giants love those 6' 6" 330lb guys benching 225 37x (Flowers)
Get guys who are athletes like All Pro Tristan Wirfs.
Dude was 330 and 6' 5" but he ran a 4.85 40 and did backflips
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I always hear OL dont need to be fast and thats right but if a huge guy runs a 4.85 he's a specimen (Flowers ran a 5.35)
Jets Becton was so huge (6' 7" 370 lbs) he couldn't heal his knee injures after hitting 400+ lbs
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Wirfs
My fantasy football buddies like to send me this every year.
https://youtu.be/rZxNeFLuY98?si=IBux-AehVSyfYNU9
Lol the Jets are such sad sacks.
Dumpster green is good color for them
When they got Rogers ...I knew..knew he would get hurt early like Testaverde.
Jets have bad karma for whatever reason.
Still cant believe owner actually hired Adam Gase.
How little does anyone have to know to hire a con job like that?
It was like Chase making P Diddy CEO
Thats some list. I disagree with Freeman McNeil being part of that group.
The year before the Jets leading rusher was Scott Dierking so they needed a RB badly. McNeil became the second leading rusher in Jets history and he's in the Jets Ring of Honor. No RB drafted after him that year was even close to having the career McNeil had.
He was a home run as far as I'm concerned and lumping him in with guys like Lam Jones, Blair Thomas, Kyle Brady and Roger Vick just isn't right.
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McNeil was a great pick for the Jets. Without a doubt one of the top RBs for them in the last 40 years. To suggest that was a bad pick is clueless.
Only four RBs are in their Ring of Honor. McNeil, Curtis Martin and their two Super Bowl backs: Snell and Boozer.
All you need to know about the Jets is that they are retaining their OL coach Carter.
This is a guy who was fired by the Titans after some players went to the media and complained about how bad he was and how they think the large amount of injuries on the OL was related to his coaching style.
The Jets viewed that as a positive resume and hired him, after which they have a year where the line is bad and had a large amount of injuries.
Still not seeing the pattern, they are rolling it back with him next year so he can screw up the next guys they will draft.
This is a guy who was fired by the Titans after some players went to the media and complained about how bad he was and how they think the large amount of injuries on the OL was related to his coaching style.
The Jets viewed that as a positive resume and hired him, after which they have a year where the line is bad and had a large amount of injuries.
Still not seeing the pattern, they are rolling it back with him next year so he can screw up the next guys they will draft.
I strongly suspect that these decisions are being made by the aforementioned President of Football Operations.
This was so early in my life to know if he was in such high demand to warrant the 3rd overall pick in the first round.
This obviously has a more modern view of the game lens because he is a fullback.
I am supposed to be working but I had to take the time to do the research because I couldn’t see any connection.
You can’t make this shit up.
Kevin Carter (OL coach) has no previous connection to Rodgers, but he worked in 2022 for Todd Downing who was also fired by the Titans last year (as OC) after the team had a horrible offense and hired by the Jets as passing game coordinator.
Downing has no connection to Rodgers, but he did work as QB coach for the Bills in 2014 when Nathanial Hackett was OC.
So the Jets have a great defense and have given the management of their offense to two guys who worked together on the Bills in 2014 and managed to keep a Bills team with a top 5 defense out of the playoffs because their offense was 18th.
Not a Jets fan but that past his prime Adams stil justl put up his 4th straight 100 catch, 1000 yard season with a rookie mid-round draft pick throwing to him. And just turned 31 so he has certainly has a few more good years in him.
I guess I missed the full year and 29 TDs like Vinnie had early in his Jet’s career.
I good story but VT got hurt in his 2nd year with the Jets…
The problem is that the Jets haven’t figured out that you might look the other way when a successful coach hires his friends, but you don’t let an incompetent like Hackett build a staff of other incompetents he is familiar with.
I was completely opposed to the Rodgers trade from the get-go. However, he looked a helluva' lot better than Zach Wilson, so the NY-area media was all agog over the deal. But, like the old adage "When you marry a woman, you marry her family," we got everything that comes with Aaron Rodgers. And, that's not entirely something that many Jets fans, nor many NY-area media sportscasters were aware of. Many Packers fans were done with Rodgers and all that he came with (I just love his spouting-off each week on the Pat McAfee show). So, not only did the Jets trade away a couple of draft picks and mortgage their future on a then-39 year old QB who hadn't been all too successful in Green Bay, as of late, they brought on all of his WR and TE friends (none of whom were as productive as the guys that the Jets drafted over the last two years), and his incompetent OC buddy too.
If everything worked out as they'd hoped, this "guns for hire" team (with a core defense that Saleh was building into something) really could be great. But, I'm not sure how long any of it would've lasted anyway -- and, that's if everyone remained healthy. How long would any of this go? One season? Maybe two? This team - WITH Rodgers at the helm - would not have lasted long. Look at Miami. Look at Buffalo. Now, this great plan just looks like a bucket of junk. Exactly what it always was. A very expensive one, at that.
It's hard to imagine an organization as poorly-run as the Jets - making the decisions that ownership made - and not having done as much mitigation planning evidently as what was required.
As I've grown tired of saying (because I say it every couple of years), GET RID OF EVERYONE!
If everything worked out as they'd hoped, this "guns for hire" team (with a core defense that Saleh was building into something) really could be great. But, I'm not sure how long any of it would've lasted anyway -- and, that's if everyone remained healthy. How long would any of this go? One season? Maybe two? This team - WITH Rodgers at the helm - would not have lasted long. Look at Miami. Look at Buffalo. Now, this great plan just looks like a bucket of junk. Exactly what it always was. A very expensive one, at that.
It's hard to imagine an organization as poorly-run as the Jets - making the decisions that ownership made - and not having done as much mitigation planning evidently as what was required.
As I've grown tired of saying (because I say it every couple of years), GET RID OF EVERYONE!
I think the narrative that Jet fans / NY media weren’t aware of all the extra “stuff” Rodgers would bring is very much false. Most were more than happy to bring it all on with expectation of on field success. While I didn’t think they were a Super Bowl team minus a QB, they do have a fairly talented roster and if Rogers is able to stay healthy, they should be pretty formidable. If Rodgers plays another 2 years (as he has mentioned) and they reach the playoffs and are a legit contender, most will say it was worth the trouble.
The fact he had a good year made the injury worse.
There was a lot of 1999 Super Bowl buzz around Jets after a great 12-1 1998 season for VT.
After missing season he came back for mediocre seasons until he was replace by Pennington in 2002
Pennington did so well as back-up he got a big contract but then broke his hand and was never the same.
He already had a so-so arm but defenses realized he couldn't throw far or hard.
More karma
Put me down as one of those fans that wasn’t in the “most” from the beginning, and I have only gotten more down on the idea as it has been implemented.
The Jets are hoping to bounce back with a 40+ year old qb coming off an Achilles injury last year and his worst year on the field 2 years ago, and the team that was smart enough to move on from him just made the playoffs with the youngest team in the league.
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