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OT: Brazilian Fans

RuRoman said:
Brazilian do not perceive equal except anyone in Latin America as their equal except the US.
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NotInRHouse said:
Brazil is one of the countries (where like the US) if you ask someone there the best the country in the world they will all say Brazil and not think twice.

I'm pretty sure they were annoyed with the Zika net and if there is one rare thing that annoys Brazilians it's the impression that outsiders have about safety there. That and the fact that Americans lump them in with every other LatAm nation and don't realize they don't speak Spanish. And I don't blame them as I have had people make insane assumptions about Americans abroad as well.
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How cute.

I doubt there are any Americans who consider Brazil an equal in anything other than soccer and in that we know they are better. Big deal.

Also don't think are many if any Americans who are concerned what we think of their feelings about the Zika thing or their rightly perceived safety issues.

But I guess that makes me the "Ugly American". Oh well.
 
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AreYouNUTS said:
How can you say that I'm "wrong" when others here have backed me up? I have no anti-Brazil feelings, hence, no need to just make shit up.. As I stated I have Brazilians in my family, love them, and would have gone down to Rio if I could have afforded to do so. I'm just pointing out something that has been very obvious to me over the 1st 2 days of competition.

I'm trying to figure out whose fans they would be IF NOT Brazilian? I've actually discussed events in which Brazil was one of the nations involved, hence, it's pretty damn obvious who is doing the "booing" when the other team scores, don't you think?

Peace.

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Others have backed you up ? You mean others that are watching on tv too ?
 
Plum Street said:
Others have backed you up ? You mean others that are watching on tv too ?
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Riddle me this:

You're watching the Yankees at Boston on tv. Yankees score. Fans are booing.

Who's fans are booing? Baltimore's? Com'on man lol!



FYI - Brazil vs Sweden in the 2nd round of Men's Table Tennis: No booing from what I could tell! Good stuff!
 
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e5fdny said:
They hate 'cause they ain't us.
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Yes and no.

It is probably more that they "owe" us or blame us.

Decisions the USA makes affect the world.. and all too often those decisions are choices between two evils and no matter which way we go, people will hate us for it... including Americans.

Brazil gets the Olympics, invests heavily.. I wouldn't doubt that Americans might be the most travelling group to Olympics, probably bringing a lot of cash... that Zika has made many Americans stay home.. and likely others too.. I see a lot of empty seats at the venues. I think they lose money.
 
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They're also yelling "ZIKA!" when the Iraqi goalkeeper takes goal his goal kicks, every time, the entire stadium, loudly. I'm sure, however, someone here will tell me I'm making shit up so feel free to turn the game on it's live: NBCSN.
 
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SMH, the booing is obvious. I just watched 2 events and in both the US was booed the entire time (US vs Canada volleyball and US vs UK in fencing). I have been to Brazil on business more than a dozen times and some of my staff is there supporting the broadcast of the games right now. I have never sensed an anti- US slant, but then again I deal with a small minority ... educated business people.
 
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e5fdny said:
They hate 'cause they ain't us.
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Most of the world rightly hates us because our foreign policies go around killing millions of people and destroying entire countries indiscriminately (due to our own economic interests) with no consequences since we own the UN. If any other country did the same, they would be slammed with war crimes and sanctions at minimum.

It's good to be the king

 
Blitz8RUCrazy said:
Most of the world rightly hates us because our foreign policies go around killing millions of people and destroying entire countries indiscriminately (due to our own economic interests) with no consequences since we own the UN. If any other country did the same, they would be slammed with war crimes and sanctions at minimum.

It's good to be the king

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Most of the world would look a lot different if it wasn't for the US.

And you're right, it is good to be the king. Just getting too dame expensive feeding the peasants.
 
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They're gonna be downright awnry IF Brazil gets tied 0-0 by Iraq. 71st minute already. Remember, Brazil got tied 0-0 by South Africa in their opener.
 
e5fdny said:
Most of the world would look a lot different if it wasn't for the US.

And you're right, it is good to be the king. Just getting too dame expensive feeding the peasants.
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Don't be surprised when those peasants start to revolt and try to burn the world to the ground.

You're right, the world would look a lot different without the US. Likely with Germany, Russia (note: Russia faced and defeated over 80% of all deployed European Axis forces in WWII, they did not need the US to win) and Japan as superpowers screwing up the world.

Superpowers are always trying to mess up the world to further their own political and economic agendas (Roman Empire, Byzantine Empire, Carolingian Empire, Mughal Empire, British Empire, French Empire, Russian Empire, German Empire, Japanese Empire and the current US Empire among many others).
 
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Blitz8RUCrazy said:
Don't be surprised when those peasants start to revolt and try to burn the world to the ground.
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His majesty has a pretty big moat, the Atlantic and the Pacific.

And most don't revolt when they're still getting fed ($$$$$$$). It's when they get really hungry and the spigot gets turned off. Which we all know probably doesn't happen domestically or internationally any time soon.
 
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e5fdny said:
His majesty has a pretty big moat, the Atlantic and the Pacific.

And most don't revolt when they're still getting fed ($$$$$$$). It's when they get really hungry and the spigot gets turned off. Which we all know probably doesn't happen domestically or internationally any time soon.
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True

It just puts a bad taste in my mouth the amount of crap the US puts the rest of the world through to further her interests. But that is also what is needed to retain superpower status unfortunately. Looking back through history, all superpowers did the same. Doesn't mean it is morally right.

Life is cruel to those not on top, on the outside looking in.
 
Blitz8RUCrazy said:
True

It just puts a bad taste in my mouth the amount of crap the US puts the rest of the world through to further her interests. But that is also what is needed to retain superpower status unfortunately. Looking back through history, all superpowers did the same. Doesn't mean it is morally right.

Life is cruel to those not on top, on the outside looking in.
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Well if the kids finally get a real job and move out of the house like their siblings, maybe we wouldn't have to be the world's parent anymore.
 
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e5fdny said:
Well if the kids finally get a real job and move out of the house like their siblings, maybe we wouldn't have to be the world's parent anymore.
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Not true. There is just too much profit in wars for the US defense and pharmaceutical industries not to lobby the gov. to start one or two every decade. We manufacture wars to sell weapons and drugs both at home and overseas. Racketeering on a global scale...
 
Brazilians fans are very aggressive, anyone who is a fan of MMA already knows this. While they don't literally mean it, when a Brazilian fights a non-Brazilian, the crowd consistently chants "tu vai morrer" which means "you're gonna die" and boos loudly during weigh-ins. Brazilians are very fun to hang with and are not usually xenophobic or anything socially but hardcore Brazilian sports fans are just a very aggressive and nationalistic crowd when it comes to sporting events.
 
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Blitz8RUCrazy said:
Not true. There is just too much profit in wars for the US defense and pharmaceutical industries not to lobby the gov. to start one or two every decade. We manufacture wars to sell weapons and drugs both at home and overseas. Racketeering on a global scale...
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Stop buying into all that socialist BS that seeks to weaken the USA through spreading fear and doubt about the USA's use of their power. The program is.. weaken resolve, prevent the USA from preventing actions by socialist entities and make the USA fertile for socialist takeover.
 
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NotInRHouse said:
I'm pretty sure they were annoyed with the Zika net and if there is one rare thing that annoys Brazilians it's the impression that outsiders have about safety there.
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Meanwhile.. the Olympic organizers had a skit in the opening ceremony that made it to the dress rehearsal stage where it looked like Giselle Bundchen gets robbed by a street urchin and the police come to save the day (the director said the reality was different.. but they dropped it anyway).

You cannot make this stuff up
 
AreYouNUTS said:
They're booing teams/athletes from other nations as well. They were actually booing during a fencing match when the opponent (I forget where he was from...) was scoring. They just appear to be incredibly poor sports.
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After the world watched Germany bend Brazil over in the World Cup semis to the tune of 7-1, their sports fans are still a bit sore.
 
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DJ Spanky said:
The fact that they were hitting that fighter, in fact, at one point, grabbed his hood and pulled his head around, is pretty pathetic.
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Yeah, there's really no way to spin that ("aggressive" "nationalistic," etc.) to make it anything but what is. It's just ugly behavior. If American fans did that in an American arena to a foreign fighter, imagine what some in this thread would say. There would be adjectives worse than "aggressive."
 
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If you haven't been to Rio, don't go. You'll be disappointed.

Brazilians call it passion. Most others call it aggression.

The absolute worst reputation in the surfing world too.
 
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e5fdny said:
How cute.

I doubt there are any Americans who consider Brazil an equal in anything other than soccer and in that we know they are better. Big deal.

Also don't think are many if any Americans who are concerned what we think of their feelings about the Zika thing or their rightly perceived safety issues.

But I guess that makes me the "Ugly American". Oh well.
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Well go to Rio and tell me our women are equally as good looking lol.

It is not a matter of being the Ugly American. It is a matter of giving other countries the same benefit of the doubt we give our own. You wouldn't want others when you are abroad associating you with some of the worst of what our society offers. Same goes for the crap that other people in the US give NJ while not knowing anything about it, other than the Sopranos and Jersey Shore. I know you have been around people, like I have, who go to the Shore for even a weekend and their tune changes from it's all Snooki or whatever other nonsense to wow it's awesome and I wish I had listened to reality rather than reality TV.
 
Blitz8RUCrazy said:
Don't be surprised when those peasants start to revolt and try to burn the world to the ground.
You're right, the world would look a lot different without the US. Likely with Germany, Russia (note: Russia faced and defeated over 80% of all deployed European Axis forces in WWII, they did not need the US to win) and Japan as superpowers screwing up the world.
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HUH.o_O A two front war is exactly what killed the Germans. Early on the German war machine was eating up Russian civilians and soldiers by the millions. They were 15 miles away from Moscow a strategic point which would basically cut Russia in half. Allied bombing left Germany's oil production at a crisis. Hitler decided to turn south to the Caucasus for the oil fields as they were simply running out of gas. Most if not all reserve troops and several Armies were tied up fighting the Allies.It's a helluva lot easier to destroy an Army when you're only meeting half their strength.

Also we took prisoner's the Russian's not so much. When you take 110,000 prisoner's and only 6,000 survive were they really prisoners at all or just being slowly exterminated? We also supplied much needed weapons and food to the Russian's while they were getting annihilated. They begged us to enter the war sooner, because they knew they couldn't take the onslaught much longer.
 
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koleszar said:
HUH.o_O A two front war is exactly what killed the Germans. Early on the German war machine was eating up Russian civilians and soldiers by the millions. They were 15 miles away from Moscow a strategic point which would basically cut Russia in half. Allied bombing left Germany's oil production at a crisis. Hitler decided to turn south to the Caucasus for the oil fields as they were simply running out of gas. Most if not all reserve troops and several Armies were tied up fighting the Allies.It's a helluva lot easier to destroy an Army when you're only meeting half their strength.

Also we took prisoner's the Russian's not so much. When you take 110,000 prisoner's and only 6,000 survive were they really prisoners at all or just being slowly exterminated? We also supplied much needed weapons and food to the Russian's while they were getting annihilated. They begged us to enter the war sooner, because they knew they couldn't take the onslaught much longer.
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Russia faced the majority of the experienced battle hardened German forces. Allied forces often faced green German soldiers many of which were less than 17yrs old. Not the same at all. They weathered the brunt of the attack. Any other theatre of war was ancillary to the eastern front.

The aid that the allies provided Russia was very marginal and had little impact. In fact Churchill wanted the Germans to annihilate the Russians because he feared Communism so much. All the propaganda talk about the US "saving the world" in WWII is utter BS and just total revisionist history and hollywood dramatization. As the saying goes, the victors write the history.

The war in Europe started in 1939 not 1944. Having a bunch of inexperienced, undisciplined US soldiers beat up on green enemy teenagers and old men while they are out of resources and war material in 1944 is to be expected (most of the battle hardened, experienced forces were dying on the eastern front or had already died off facing the Russians).

It's expected. It's nothing to puff your chest out about. It's like proudly bragging to your friends that you beat up a championship winning boxer while both his hands were tied behind his back. The Germans lost the war because they ran out of men. Over 80% of which were killed or captured by the Russians. Even after the allies landed in Normandy, still the majority of the experienced German fighting forces remained in Russia.

The Russians were the main reason the allies won the war. To say otherwise is laughable and down right disrespectful to the ultimate sacrifice 10s of millions of Russians made. A sacrifice which Russia is still recovering from. The US lost around 500K. One of the lowest causality rates in the war since we assumed the least risk while receiving the most reward as the rest of the world lay in ruins.

The last time the US won a war when faced with an opposition of equal or similar strength was in the 1800s. Since then we have only dropped in at the very end when the odds were tilted in their favor or have faced off with weak strength opposition like in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan.

This false sense of bravado and machismo is unwarranted and is a by product of the propaganda that the US school system, hollywood and the US media like to feed the sheep that are the majority of the American people.
 
West Point Knight said:
At the end of the games they're still living in that crime infested open sewer so waaaaaaah!

They can always revel in the fact that they'll likely be the reason a developing country is never given the games ever again...
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And definitely this one.
 
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RUbacker said:
Folks , they are not a culture with much class. Sorry to say that for the PC libs on the board. It is what it is. The Portuguese down neck Newark actually cringe at the brazilians and their antics . They speak Portuguese but that is where similarities end.
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AreYouNUTS said:
How can you say that I'm "wrong" when others here have backed me up? I have no anti-Brazil feelings, hence, no need to just make shit up.. As I stated I have Brazilians in my family, love them, and would have gone down to Rio if I could have afforded to do so. I'm just pointing out something that has been very obvious to me over the 1st 2 days of competition.

I'm trying to figure out whose fans they would be IF NOT Brazilian? I've actually discussed events in which Brazil was one of the nations involved, hence, it's pretty damn obvious who is doing the "booing" when the other team scores, don't you think?

Peace.

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You mean, you're not in Rio. Reading your OP, I thought for sure you were, giving you the insight to make these observations.

But this whole thing was your hypothesis derived from watching TV? How do you know all these booing fans are even Brazilian? I've watched some beach volleyball, tennis and other stuff (on TV) and haven't noticed any great amount of booing or unsportsmanlike behavior.

Cool story.
 
It would definitely be Brazilians booing because in Europe whistling is how they boo. That said Brazilians ARE very outspoken regarding sports & go a tad overboard at even the HINT of a win. Its their olympics and they are NOT very good overall.

The most booing I have heard so far has been directed at the Russians, who up until a week ago were going to be banned from the games due to institutional wide doping. I just watched Efimova take a silver in the 100 breast and she has been caught doping three times.
 
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