OT: Brazilian Fans

[BigLou]

Folks , they are not a culture with much class. Sorry to say that for the PC libs on the board. It is what it is. The Portuguese down neck Newark actually cringe at the brazilians and their antics . They speak Portuguese but that is where similarities end.

Russia faced the majority of the experienced battle hardened German forces. Allied forces often faced green German soldiers many of which were less than 17yrs old. Not the same at all. They weathered the brunt of the attack. Any other theatre of war was ancillary to the eastern front.

The aid that the allies provided Russia was very marginal and had little impact. In fact Churchill wanted the Germans to annihilate the Russians because he feared Communism so much. All the propaganda talk about the US "saving the world" in WWII is utter BS and just total revisionist history and hollywood dramatization. As the saying goes, the victors write the history....

This false sense of bravado and machismo is unwarranted and is a by product of the propaganda that the US school system, hollywood and the US media like to feed the sheep that are the majority of the American people.

A couple of questions come to mind after reading this thread.

1) Is RUbacker originally from Newark? I ask this because I am and I have only heard Newark natives use the term "down neck". Most people call it the Ironbound but those of us from Newark remember when it was down neck.

2) Why does Blitz hate America so much and what does all of his ramblings have to do with Brazillian fans booing Hope Solo?

 

[AreYouNUTS]

eh, I'm done, lol...things are obvious, leave it at that

 

[AreYouNUTS]

You mean, you're not in Rio. Reading your OP, I thought for sure you were, giving you the insight to make these observations.

But this whole thing was your hypothesis derived from watching TV? How do you know all these booing fans are even Brazilian? I've watched some beach volleyball, tennis and other stuff (on TV) and haven't noticed any great amount of booing or unsportsmanlike behavior.

Cool story.

Pretty easy to figure this stuff out watching TV to be honest. The chants are audible - very much so at time - and the crowds are loaded with Brazilians sporting their yellow futbol jerseys. Also, you do realize that a damn good # of tickets end up in the hands of home fans, for lots of events, right? Have you been to an Olympic games before? In Atlanta I got tickets through the lottery and was shocked at the # of non-international fans in the (full) stands at events not featuring American entrants.

No, it hasn't happened at every venue or in every event, but it IS happening and I'm not the only one in this thread who has heard it (multiple times). Maybe you and a couple others just aren't watching the same events, I don't know, but I'm sure as hell not making anything up. As college football fans know it only takes a few drunks to get something to catch on and maybe this is just the case here-and-there.

Thanks for listening to further commentary on my "cool story." [cheers]

 

[FanuSanu52]

In other words, you don't really know they're Brazilian, you're assuming so based on crowd shots and home court. That's okay, I guess, but kind of unconvincing evidence of Brazil's lack of class.

 

[FELONIOUSMONK]

The next time you go out for rodizio let your waiter know how you feel about Brazilian fans. He will be filled with sorrow.

 

[srru86]

I used to work in NYC with a girl who grew up in Sao Paulo a big fans of one of the local teams. She was a very educated and sophisticated lady. In talking about fanship she said the way you went to games was wear old clothes, stuff don't mind getting messed up, and only carry your house key and cab/transit fare for the ride home.

 

[Blitz8RUCrazy]

A couple of questions come to mind after reading this thread.

2) Why does Blitz hate America so much and what does all of his ramblings have to do with Brazillian fans booing Hope Solo?

I don't hate America. I acknowledge it for what it is, unlike most of the rest of the people in this country whom pretend to think that the rest of the world are inferior/don't exist and that nothing is wrong with the path this country continues to head down.

It is a power hungry, money making machine that does not hesitate to run people over to bolster the all powerful profit margin. Where corporate oligarchs control the media and flow of information. Where people are routinely brainwashed into what to think and how to think by corporate sponsored "news media". Where the masses are routinely mollified and distracted by religious fanaticism, social media, celebrity worship and athletic contests (CFB, NFL, NBA etc.) over political and social reforms. Very similar to how Rome used the Coliseum to distract the masses for centuries.

A great place to live for the rich and a pretty crappy place to live for the poor.

 

[newell138]

I don't hate America. I acknowledge it for what it is (unlike most of the rest of the people in this country whom pretend to think that the rest of the world are inferior or don't exist and that nothing is wrong with the path this country his heading down).

It is a power hungry, money making machine that does not hesitate to run people over to bolster the all powerful profit margin. Where corporate oligarchs control the media and flow of information. Where people are routinely brainwashed into what to think and how to think by corporate sponsored "news media". Where the masses are routinely mollified and distracted by religious fanaticism, social media, celebrity worship and athletic contests (CFB, NFL, NBA etc.) over political and social reforms. Very similar to how Rome used the Coliseum to distract the masses for centuries.

A great place to live for the rich and a pretty poopie place to live for the poor.

Actually if you are going to be poor its a pretty good place to live compared to any other place in the world. In most places around the world, poor people are starving and live w/ the threat of disease. In the US on the other hand, a fair amount of these poor people are actually overweight and have access to some pretty great healthcare.

 

[newell138]

 

[AreYouNUTS]

In other words, you don't really know they're Brazilian, you're assuming so based on crowd shots and home court. That's okay, I guess, but kind of unconvincing evidence of Brazil's lack of class.

It's obvious you haven't watched much of the games. All good.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

The next time you go out for rodizio let your waiter know how you feel about Brazilian fans. He will be filled with sorrow.

I will. I'll also talk to him about my Brazilian cousins, 2 beautiful little girls ages 9 and 7, whom I adore. [thumb2]

 

[LeapinLou]

Nuts has it right - I've heard the announcers for different events say this is the first time they've heard boo-ing at the Olympics and its really surprising and disappointing.

I'm pretty sure its not the Brazilians. Its Eagles fans. :boxing:

 

[FanuSanu52]

It's obvious you haven't watched much of the games. All good.

What's obvious is that you like to make assumptions - and then argue them for days on end, as if there's an objective right answer. Another assumption of yours results in failure: Ive watched plenty of events, including US-China women's volleyball, which seemed to be a stadium filled with Americans, contrary to everything you've said in this thread.

Maybe they are booing during some events - who cares. That's sports, don't see why the Olympics, the biggest, most global stage, is inherently different.

Enjoy the Games.

 

[BigLou]

I don't think its that big of an assumption to blame the home fans for the booing during the women's soccer game. I have watched both games so far. During game 2 against France the announcers noted that the booing had become well organized - every time Hope Solo touched the ball they booed heartily and when she released the ball (kick or throw) they finished by yelling "Zica". If only we could get the "R-U" chant that well organized.It was very loud and I doubt that there were enough French fans to be as loud as this sounded on TV. Basically every fan other than the Americans must have joined in and my guess is that a) there were more Brazilians there than any other country and b) they were the ones who were insulted by Solo's tweets so they had the most reason to boo.

To her credit Solo said that of the fans were having fun at her expense, more power to them. It certainly has not affected her play.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

What's obvious is that you like to make assumptions - and then argue them for days on end, as if there's an objective right answer. Another assumption of yours results in failure: Ive watched plenty of events, including US-China women's volleyball, which seemed to be a stadium filled with Americans, contrary to everything you've said in this thread.

Maybe they are booing during some events - who cares. That's sports, don't see why the Olympics, the biggest, most global stage, is inherently different.

Enjoy the Games.

There were plenty of Americans at the USA v China beach volleyball match. I didn't say otherwise. I also don't believe I ever said that there weren't a lot of Americans at the games. What I've said alluded to is the these games were not heavily traveled to AND that most tickets, to most events, get eaten up by the natives. Neither are assumptions.

BTW - I can't recall EVER hearing booing at Olympic games. At least not for a team/player scoring a point, taking a kick, etc. Maybe for something obviously flagrant in a team sport, et al, but not like this. Not even during the cold war.

BTW(2) - see all those yellow shirts in the crowd of the USA v Columbia game? The stadium was empty in the 1st half. Now it's nearly packed. Why?Those are Brazilian fans who have filed in to watch their women play South Africa - same stadium - following this game. Notice how they're going crazy every time Columbia gets the ball over the midfield line? No, no, I'm just making this up, too! They also just booed Team USA for kicking the ball back to Hope Solo and have begun the "ZIKA" chant very loudly once more. Don't get me wrong, CHEER for another team against the USA, Russia, China - whomever - all you want, nothing wrong with that, right?

 

[AreYouNUTS]

It would definitely be Brazilians booing because in Europe whistling is how they boo. That said Brazilians ARE very outspoken regarding sports & go a tad overboard at even the HINT of a win. Its their olympics and they are NOT very good overall.

The most booing I have heard so far has been directed at the Russians, who up until a week ago were going to be banned from the games due to institutional wide doping. I just watched Efimova take a silver in the 100 breast and she has been caught doping three times.

IIRC they boo AND whistle. Whistling is typically for poor play (from the home team, most of the time), poor officiating, or aimed at an specific player on the opposite team who has earned it, while booing is aimed at the visiting team. Also seems like a lot more whistling in Eastern Europe/Eurasia while there's more "booing" in Western Europe. Again, I could be wrong, but watching tons of international games at Mulligan's in Hoboken this is what I recall being told when asking the question (then again, I asked a lot, because there was drinking involved, so who know LOL!).

 

[AreYouNUTS]

What's obvious is that you like to make assumptions - and then argue them for days on end, as if there's an objective right answer. .

You know what's "obvious"?? I began a thread based on something pretty obvious with the backing of quite a few other posters AND announcers. You jumped in and have disagreed with all of our points. So, tell me, WHO is the one attempting to "argue"?

Enjoy buddy, all good, let's close this out and get the W.

 

[FanuSanu52]

Yes, you haven't been coming back to this thread, every day, to shove your opinion down everyone's throat, including responding two separate times to a single post.
Clearly you don't think overly highly of your own opinion, which is why you're so timid about posting.

BTW, some people agreed, some people disagreed. There was no consensus.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Yes, you haven't been coming back to this thread, every day, to shove your opinion down everyone's throat, including responding two separate times to a single post.
Clearly you don't think overly highly of your own opinion, which is why you're so timid about posting.

BTW, some people agreed, some people disagreed. There was no consensus.

I can't come back to my own thread to a) respond to other posts and b) add to my original comments?

Unreal.

 

[FanuSanu52]

I can't come back to my own thread to a) respond to other posts and b) add to my original comments?

Unreal.

Jesus Christ, you said I was the one arguing ... when you were already at it for days before I even wasted time opening this dopey thread. And I only opened it because you couldn't think of an appropriately descriptive subject line. It's like you want everyone to read it and won't be happy until they all agree with you.

Unreal, indeed.

 

[RULoyal]

Jesus Christ, you said I was the one arguing ... when you were already at it for days before I even wasted time opening this dopey thread. And I only opened it because you couldn't think of an appropriately descriptive subject line. It's like you want everyone to read it and won't be happy until they all agree with you.

Unreal, indeed.

Are you guys really arguing about who is arguing?

 

[e5fdny]

Are you guys really arguing about who is arguing?

Yes.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Jesus Christ, you said I was the one arguing ... when you were already at it for days before I even wasted time opening this dopey thread. And I only opened it because you couldn't think of an appropriately descriptive subject line. It's like you want everyone to read it and won't be happy until they all agree with you.

Unreal, indeed.

lol okay

 

[RUbacker]

A couple of questions come to mind after reading this thread.

1) Is RUbacker originally from Newark? I ask this because I am and I have only heard Newark natives use the term "down neck". Most people call it the Ironbound but those of us from Newark remember when it was down neck.

2) Why does Blitz hate America so much and what does all of his ramblings have to do with Brazillian fans booing Hope Solo?

I am from Newark . My Father was originally from mobile Alabama and my mother from New Orleans but they settled in Newark years ago.

 

[koleszar]

Russia faced the majority of the experienced battle hardened German forces. They weathered the brunt of the attack. Any other theatre of war was ancillary to the eastern front.

The aid that the allies provided Russia was very marginal and had little impact. In fact Churchill wanted the Germans to annihilate the Russians because he feared Communism so much. All the propaganda talk about the US "saving the world" in WWII is utter BS and just total revisionist history and hollywood dramatization.

The war in Europe started in 1939 not 1944. Having a bunch of inexperienced, undisciplined US soldiers beat up on green enemy teenagers and old men while they are out of resources and war material in 1944 is to be expected (most of the battle hardened, experienced forces were dying on the eastern front or had already died off facing the Russians).

The Germans lost the war because they ran out of men. Over 80% of which were killed or captured by the Russians. Even after the allies landed in Normandy, still the majority of the experienced German fighting forces remained in Russia.

The Russians were the main reason the allies won the war. To say otherwise is laughable and down right disrespectful to the ultimate sacrifice 10s of millions of Russians made. A sacrifice which Russia is still recovering from. The US lost around 500K. One of the lowest causality rates in the war since we assumed the least risk while receiving the most reward as the rest of the world lay in ruins.


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1st I did not say we won the war ourselves, but to say Russia won the war on their own is just silly. Yes they fought most of the Battle harden troops, but crucial supplies and reserve troops were denied to Eastern Front troops do to the Allies entrance in France and bombing of German industry. Also the elimination of the Luftwaffe dominance over European skies by Allied pilots was crucial in helping grounds troops through out the entire European theater. The Russian air force had very little to do with the air campaign at the beginning of the war. Owning the skies was crucial and the Russian air force was nonexistent or destroyed.

Well technically we didn't enter the European campaign until 1944, really your point is just semantics. 1st the US started bombing German cities in 1942. 2nd Operation torch began in 1942 in N. Africa. Fighting Rommel and the dreaded African core.(Not exactly green troops or 17 yr. olds). After victory in Africa Churchill wanted to enter Europe through Italy, Roosevelt wanted a direct attack on France. Churchill won out. Upon victory in Africa the US entered Italy, Greece and South France in 1943 again facing battle harden German troops. This whole theater of war was considered the Mediterranean Theater of Operations. Yet we fought German front line troops throughout this campaign. Italian troops we can both agree were a joke.

At this same time the US began offensive operations in the Marshall, Wake and Marcus Island. Although the war in Europe was to take precedence, Roosevelt just couldn't sit around and do nothing in the Pacific Campaign. This came as a complete surprise to the Japanese as we began a two front war. They also couldn't believe we rebounded so quickly.

I would not call the Lend Lease Act marginal or having very little impact, quite the contrary. 6,200 tanks, 22,000 armored vehicles, 16,000 artillery guns, 132,000 machine guns and 502,000 tactical vehicles(our jeeps and trucks were far superior to what they produced, you know the stuff you need to move troops and supplies) This allowed the Russians to concentrate their industries on the production of the T34. Also we resupplied almost their entire air force which was destroyed by the Germans with15,000 planes between 1942 to 44.[/QUOTE]

 

[Clearscreen25]

I keep coming back to this thread hoping it devolved into more pictures of hot Brazilian girls...

 

[AreYouNUTS]

I keep coming back to this thread hoping it devolved into more pictures of hot Brazilian girls...

Ask and ye' shall receive!

 

[mikefla]

IIRC they boo AND whistle. Whistling is typically for poor play (from the home team, most of the time), poor officiating, or aimed at an specific player on the opposite team who has earned it, while booing is aimed at the visiting team. Also seems like a lot more whistling in Eastern Europe/Eurasia while there's more "booing" in Western Europe. Again, I could be wrong, but watching tons of international games at Mulligan's in Hoboken this is what I recall being told when asking the question (then again, I asked a lot, because there was drinking involved, so who know LOL!).

Thats what I have heard,,I am actually at the Olympics and Ive heard very little boo-ing but I DO notice Brazillians cheer for whoever USA plays against LOL

Then again I keep thinking of Philly,,,,,they boo boy scouts and Santa Claus LOL

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Spanish women's beach volleyball team (playing now on CNBC) being booed/whistled at practically every time they serve or score. They're playing Brazil.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Here's a BBC story on Brazil and Booing

 

[Caliknight]

I keep coming back to this thread hoping it devolved into more pictures of hot Brazilian girls...

Would be better in that case if the Olympics were in Argentina. The myth of hot chicks being everywhere in Brazil is just that. Take 100 chicks there and the vast majority would be far less than mediocre, with a small handful being absolutely utterly stunning.

Argentina on the other hand is like the land of 8.5's and above. Pretty special in that regard from what I saw.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Would be better in that case if the Olympics were in Argentina. The myth of hot chicks being everywhere in Brazil is just that. Take 100 chicks there and the vast majority would be far less than mediocre, with a small handful being absolutely utterly stunning.

Argentina on the other hand is like the land of 8.5's and above. Pretty special in that regard from what I saw.

Agree with Cali. Most Argentinian girls I've met have not only been pretty, smart/knowledgeable, nice, and in shape, but they tend to be a lot, let's say, "natural Take that to mean a variety of things.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Here's a BBC story on Brazil and Booing

....but I'm sure Plum St will continue to insist that I'm "making assumptions" LOL!

 

[RUforJERSEY]

Can't say I blame him. It's ass-tounding.

 

[JQRU91]

Thats what I have heard,,I am actually at the Olympics and Ive heard very little boo-ing but I DO notice Brazillians cheer for whoever USA plays against LOL

Then again I keep thinking of Philly,,,,,they boo boy scouts and Santa Claus LOL

Brazilians, they're just Eagles fans with a good tan.

 

[retired711]

Would be better in that case if the Olympics were in Argentina. The myth of hot chicks being everywhere in Brazil is just that. Take 100 chicks there and the vast majority would be far less than mediocre, with a small handful being absolutely utterly stunning.

Argentina on the other hand is like the land of 8.5's and above. Pretty special in that regard from what I saw.

I am hardly surprised that you like Argentine women given your preferences among American women. Many Argentines are immigrants from northern Europe and thus the women are often like the classic California girl.

 

[Caliknight]

I am hardly surprised that you like Argentine women given your preferences among American women. Many Argentines are immigrants from northern Europe and thus the women are often like the classic California girl.

Brazil has its fair share too. But they just don't seem to be as good looking as the Argentine women. It's a great mix they have there. Mar del Plata especially.

 

[BigRnj]

If you want to see real beauty go to one of the "tourist" shows Oba Oba or Plataforma in Rio. Tall with copper colored skin (native, African, European mix). Only other place in South America I have seen similar beauty is Cartegena Colombia.

 

[Clearscreen25]

Would be better in that case if the Olympics were in Argentina. The myth of hot chicks being everywhere in Brazil is just that. Take 100 chicks there and the vast majority would be far less than mediocre, with a small handful being absolutely utterly stunning.

Argentina on the other hand is like the land of 8.5's and above. Pretty special in that regard from what I saw.

Agree with Cali. Most Argentinian girls I've met have not only been pretty, smart/knowledgeable, nice, and in shape, but they tend to be a lot, let's say, "natural Take that to mean a variety of things.

A road trip may be in order to verify these claims...

 

[Blitz8RUCrazy]

Agree with Cali. Most Argentinian girls I've met have not only been pretty, smart/knowledgeable, nice, and in shape, but they tend to be a lot, let's say, "natural Take that to mean a variety of things.

yup

https://www.google.com/search?q=arg...82MKHXyAAPMQ_AUICCgB&biw=1228&bih=701#imgrc=_