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OT: New York Mets 2024-2025 Off Season Thread

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So much for punting this year. Can we just be patient? Full faith in the front office. Guys like Canning will not be asked to carry the team on their backs. Now let’s get Pete here!
 
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Manaea is a very solid signing…now we hope Montas has a Seve like comeback.
If there is a way we can bring in the Japanese kid over the Dodgers and have Pete back- we would be in very good shape.
If they do sign Bregman as well- it opens up trading McNeil or Marte too.
But even if we just get Pete back now, I am satisfied.
 
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1. Senga
2. Sean M.
3. Frankie M.
4. David P.
5, place holder until Sprout comes mid season?

I like it. Would like it more with the Japanese pitcher
 
1. Senga
2. Sean M.
3. Frankie M.
4. David P.
5, place holder until Sprout comes mid season?

I like it. Would like it more with the Japanese pitcher
Clay Holmes is 5. Griffin Canning, Blackburn, Megill depth or pen long men.


Still need a bat and a good pen arm but coming together.
 
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Clay Holmes is 5. Griffin Canning, Blackburn, Megill depth or pen long men.


Still need a bat and a good pen arm but coming together.
I'm thinking Pete is announced soon. They seem to be very high on Holmes coming in as a starter. His big problem seems to always be putting men on base. And I fear that this is the one thing our Pitching Coach has not been good at...But maybe as a starter- Holmes will not be in a stress situation on every single pitch and this helps him out.

I saw that Arenado turned down a trade earlier this week and he already mentioned the Met's as a club he would accept a trade to. I wonder if we sign Pete, if that could excite him enough to push for us and we can do something like move McNeil or Marte and have the Cards eat some of his contract.
 
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I'm thinking Pete is announced soon. They seem to be very high on Holmes coming in as a starter. His big problem seems to always be putting men on base. And I fear that this is the one thing our Pitching Coach has not been good at...But maybe as a starter- Holmes will not be in a stress situation on every single pitch and this helps him out.

I saw that Arenado turned down a trade earlier this week and he already mentioned the Met's as a club he would accept a trade to. I wonder if we sign Pete, if that could excite him enough to push for us and we can do something like move McNeil or Marte and have the Cards eat some of his contract.
I think Holmes can work out as a starter as he wasn't a straight fireballer as a closer and was a groundball pitcher. That should translate well if he adjusts to being stretched out to 100 pitches a game.

The Mets re-signing Alonso is the biggest no brainer left in the offseason. If they don't, the Soto acquisition is offset by the loss of Pete. If you're going to throw that much money into Soto, you need to treat every year as a win now situation.
 
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Clay Holmes is 5. Griffin Canning, Blackburn, Megill depth or pen long men.


Still need a bat and a good pen arm but coming together.
Walker Buehler signed a one year deal for $21.05 million. Did the Mets really kick the tires? I would have given Buehler a second year. I trust him more than Clay Holmes. I prefer Manaea, Senga, Buehler, Peterson, and full in the blank for the fifth spot
 
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Manaea is a very solid signing…now we hope Montas has a Seve like comeback.
If there is a way we can bring in the Japanese kid over the Dodgers and have Pete back- we would be in very good shape.
If they do sign Bregman as well- it opens up trading McNeil or Marte too.
But even if we just get Pete back now, I am satisfied.
May be less about hoping for Montas to have a comeback and more about giving him the extra day’s rest that he seemingly needs to be effective. The splits are so glaring and pronounced - over a lengthy sample size - they’re hard to ignore.
8 GS, 8.29 ERA, 1.901 WHIP, .961 OPS on regular rest.
But on extra rest
22 GS, 3.85 ERA, 1.214 WHIP, .672 OPS
 
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Clay Holmes is 5. Griffin Canning, Blackburn, Megill depth or pen long men.


Still need a bat and a good pen arm but coming together.
In theory yes Holmes is 5. Just won’t believe it till I see it
 
The Manaea deal is not all cash. $23.25M is in the form of a 10 year deferral from 2033 to 2042. So the AAV, and therefore the luxury tax hit, will be somewhat south of $25M.

Expect the Mets to use a six man rotation for certain stretches of the season.
 
At this point, is there much of a market for Pete? I'm hoping the Mets can get him back without overspending. Not that our owner seems to care, but you can't get into a bidding war for Pete.

Agree if you add Pete and another starter, the Mets are set for spring training.
 
1. Senga
2. Sean M.
3. Frankie M.
4. David P.
5, place holder until Sprout comes mid season?

I like it. Would like it more with the Japanese pitcher
You forgot Holmes
At this point, is there much of a market for Pete? I'm hoping the Mets can get him back without overspending. Not that our owner seems to care, but you can't get into a bidding war for Pete.

Agree if you add Pete and another starter, the Mets are set for spring training.
uh you forgot the bullpen
 
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Did not forget Holmes read all my posts. I will believe it when I see it. I may be wrong but I have little faith in it
Worst case- he ends up a big part of the BP...he did pretty well with the Yanks after moving from the closer role.
 
At this point, is there much of a market for Pete? I'm hoping the Mets can get him back without overspending. Not that our owner seems to care, but you can't get into a bidding war for Pete.

Agree if you add Pete and another starter, the Mets are set for spring training.
Be Boras' best friend and sign Alonso, Bregman and Burnes
 
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Walker Buehler signed a one year deal for $21.05 million. Did the Mets really kick the tires? I would have given Buehler a second year. I trust him more than Clay Holmes. I prefer Manaea, Senga, Buehler, Peterson, and full in the blank for the fifth spot
since coming back from injury- he has been really bad - Buehler
 
Anyone think Pete is staying? His market is dwindling, so his value is too, but Boras needs to save face
 
I think Holmes can work out as a starter as he wasn't a straight fireballer as a closer and was a groundball pitcher. That should translate well if he adjusts to being stretched out to 100 pitches a game.

The Mets re-signing Alonso is the biggest no brainer left in the offseason. If they don't, the Soto acquisition is offset by the loss of Pete. If you're going to throw that much money into Soto, you need to treat every year as a win now situation.
Agree `100%
 
Agree `100%
Even if Pete is just signed for 3-5 years...that gives us a win now core that will be solid. Nimmo locked, Soto locked, Lindor locked, Pete locked, Vientos under control, Alvarez under control, McNeil(if we keep him and he picks it up) locked. And some young kids that really showed progress.

This would leave us with just filling backup spots, role players and pitching each off season.
 
Anyone think Pete is staying? His market is dwindling, so his value is too, but Boras needs to save face
Actually, at this point I think EVERYONE believes Pete is staying. The market for his services simply never materialized. I am as surprised as anyone.

That said, don't expect anything to be done soon. We know Boras' modus operandi. If he isn't seeing an offer he likes, he will wait until well into February, hoping a competitive bidder emerges. It only takes one.
 
Actually, at this point I think EVERYONE believes Pete is staying. The market for his services simply never materialized. I am as surprised as anyone.

That said, don't expect anything to be done soon. We know Boras' modus operandi. If he isn't seeing an offer he likes, he will wait until well into February, hoping a competitive bidder emerges. It only takes one.
Nobody wants Fat Pete. Looks like he will get a 1-year prove it contract unless the Mets feel bad for him. Many of Boras' clients last year had to do this.
 
I would do 4 years $100M for Pete. Give him an opt-out after year 3. He's homegrown, fan favorite, and hopefully no contract stress next year gets him back to his old form. His defense has also improved a ton to the point I don't view it as a major negative at all.
 

Nobody wants Fat Pete. Looks like he will get a 1-year prove it contract unless the Mets feel bad for him. Many of Boras' clients last year had to do this.
what is your purpose of posting here? And you sound brilliant that no one wants a 35-50 HR 100+ rbi guy on their team. It is only about terms...Boras is obviously holding out for more as he most likely told Pete not to sign the deal offered last year. And this is where Boras is starting to not age well for his clients. Last year, he had a number of guys have to sign for less then what they had turned down previously.

Regardless, what is your purpose?
 
what is your purpose of posting here? And you sound brilliant that no one wants a 35-50 HR 100+ rbi guy on their team. It is only about terms...Boras is obviously holding out for more as he most likely told Pete not to sign the deal offered last year. And this is where Boras is starting to not age well for his clients. Last year, he had a number of guys have to sign for less then what they had turned down previously.

Regardless, what is your purpose?
Same purpose of you posting in the Yanks thread. Don't be a hypocrite.
 
Same purpose of you posting in the Yanks thread. Don't be a hypocrite.
Do you read my posts over there- i have been very positive and just having discussion- even WB has stopped saying I am a troll. You, are 100% trolling. If you do not see the difference, then it shows that not only are you a troll, but a really dumb one at that. You are not having baseball discussions with us- you are going with Fat Pete and every move we make is a disaster.

Find anything even close to that in what I have been posting over on the other thread.
 
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