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OT. NJ Devils. Are they turning the page?

I don't understand why you don't think this rule is necessary. We saw exactly why--because if you are wearing tape on your hands and you punch someone, it can cut them, which is exactly what happened. Most players aren't so unsportsmanlike to tape their hands with the intention of using it to their advantage in a fight, but the rule is there (1) so that if a player does have tape on their hands for injuries, they don't fight in that game because it isn't worth the match penalty if the other player is cut or injured because of it, and (2) because there are still scumbags like Zac Rinaldo in the league so you need to have rules to prevent people from doing something like this on purpose.

The additional penalty for instigating a fight while wearing a visor is no longer in the rulebook. They obviously took that rule out when they made visors mandatory. Kalinin was not given a match penalty because Miller was not cut or injured. "Any player wearing tape or any other material on his hands (below the wrist) who cuts or injures an opponent during an altercation will receive a match penalty..." Again, the rulebook is right there on NHL.com, there is no reason for anyone to be confused about this.

You almost never see this penalty called because it almost never happens. I am very confident that this rule is enforced every time it is supposed to be, that is why you never see fighters wearing anything on their hands even though their hands take more abuse than any other player. Miller and Kalinin aren't fighters, so they probably never gave it much thought.

So Miller was penalized for winning the fight?? Nothing weird about that. We'll just have to disagree.
 
So Miller was penalized for winning the fight?? Nothing weird about that. We'll just have to disagree.
Haha give me a break, have you ever actually watched a hockey fight before? Miller had the tape on his punching hand and he punched Kalinin with his tape-wrapped hand and drew blood. Kalinin had some sort of wrap on his other hand, which he only used to grab Miller's jersey. If you can't see the difference, then this conversation is over. You are perpetuating the stereotype that Rangers fans just do not have a firm understanding of the sport of hockey, and are just Noo Yawk spawts fans who have never actually played hockey at any meaningful level.
 
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You have absolutely got to be joking if you think New York fans don't understand hockey or haven't played...
 
Haha give me a break, have you ever actually watched a hockey fight before? Miller had the tape on his punching hand and he punched Kalinin with his tape-wrapped hand and drew blood. Kalinin had some sort of wrap on his other hand, which he only used to grab Miller's jersey. If you can't see the difference, then this conversation is over. You are perpetuating the stereotype that Rangers fans just do not have a firm understanding of the sport of hockey, and are just Noo Yawk spawts fans who have never actually played hockey at any meaningful level.

Played hockey for over 30 years, and watched for most of my life.
We're done here.
 
Terrible loss last night. Torts has the BJs playing well after that awful start (0-9?). Another game like that and the Devils may be sellers. No excuse.
 
When you have a career journeyman as your leading scorer with 40 points, your gonna have issues. As far as trades go, I think schneider keeps them thinking of a run, so expect trade picks to go the other way for some vet scoring.
 
When you have a career journeyman as your leading scorer with 40 points, your gonna have issues. As far as trades go, I think schneider keeps them thinking of a run, so expect trade picks to go the other way for some vet scoring.

I'd give you Rick Nash, but not sure you'd want him, and don't know that he'd be enough help.
 
I'd give you Rick Nash, but not sure you'd want him, and don't know that he'd be enough help.
I know you're kinda joking, but, Nash would instantly be the devils best skating player. He heats up, its more than enough to put them in the playoffs. Once he gets there...

Really, the best course for the Rangers is to put Nash on LTIR until the playoffs and use some of that mega-cap space opened up to get a decent rental player. They've been treading water and need a jolt. But, not sure they have a lot of chips to play here. Maybe Skjei?
 
I know you're kinda joking, but, Nash would instantly be the devils best skating player. He heats up, its more than enough to put them in the playoffs. Once he gets there...

Really, the best course for the Rangers is to put Nash on LTIR until the playoffs and use some of that mega-cap space opened up to get a decent rental player. They've been treading water and need a jolt. But, not sure they have a lot of chips to play here. Maybe Skjei?


I wouldn't trade Skjei right now. I want both McIlraith and Skjei as regulars next year.
We'll lose Yandl and Boyle, but they need to start clearing some cap space. I think they might entertain moving Kreider, but I'm not ready to give up on him just yet.

(Damn, if only they'd let me be the GM.)
 
Well then you probably get it more than most fans, but your comment on Miller being penalized for winning the fight is just ignorant.

I'm thinking both the Devils and Rangers have a fair share of idiots in their fanbase; I try to stay above the fray on this stuff. Sometimes, it's really hard to do that.
 
Heading to the game tonight. With this game as the last for NJ ahead of the trading deadline, we'll learn a lot about what this team should do by 10pm. There is no doubt that scoring is an absolute necessity and I'm growing more and more comfortable with trading from defense by the day. I've read rumors of a Gelinas for P.A. Parenteau deal with TOR over the past week, which I feel could help. I also don't think the loss of Cammalleri can be overstated. He was on the highest points per game average of his career (38 in 44) and his absence has crippled the 5 on 5 offense. The team's reporting of this injury is almost Lou-like. They need him back fast or they'll continue to lose tough games (save for last night's disaster...another 2 points lost to a bad team.)
 
I'm thinking both the Devils and Rangers have a fair share of idiots in their fanbase; I try to stay above the fray on this stuff. Sometimes, it's really hard to do that.
They do, as is evidenced by how many people yell "SHOOT" throughout an entire powerplay.

Heading to the game tonight. With this game as the last for NJ ahead of the trading deadline, we'll learn a lot about what this team should do by 10pm. There is no doubt that scoring is an absolute necessity and I'm growing more and more comfortable with trading from defense by the day. I've read rumors of a Gelinas for P.A. Parenteau deal with TOR over the past week, which I feel could help. I also don't think the loss of Cammalleri can be overstated. He was on the highest points per game average of his career (38 in 44) and his absence has crippled the 5 on 5 offense. The team's reporting of this injury is almost Lou-like. They need him back fast or they'll continue to lose tough games (save for last night's disaster...another 2 points lost to a bad team.)
I'll be there tonight, too. I think if anyone is willing offer an established NHL player for Gelinas, they should jump at that. Gelinas has a huge slapshot but that's all he has, he is basically Fulton Reed before the Bash Brothers.
 
They do, as is evidenced by how many people yell "SHOOT" throughout an entire powerplay.


I'll be there tonight, too. I think if anyone is willing offer an established NHL player for Gelinas, they should jump at that. Gelinas has a huge slapshot but that's all he has, he is basically Fulton Reed before the Bash Brothers.
My thoughts exactly. Maybe it's Lou doing us a final favor...
 
Just got back from the game tonight, they're turning the corner for the long run but they need to sell, sell, sell the next 72 houts....stock up on draft picks and prospects.

Only question is who outside Stempniak has any real value?
 
Just got back from the game tonight, they're turning the corner for the long run but they need to sell, sell, sell the next 72 houts....stock up on draft picks and prospects.

Only question is who outside Stempniak has any real value?

Agreed. Exactly what I thought as I listened to the end of last night's disaster on the radio. They've been outscored what, 10-1 the last two games? It ain't happening this year.
 
Just got back from the game tonight, they're turning the corner for the long run but they need to sell, sell, sell the next 72 houts....stock up on draft picks and prospects.

Only question is who outside Stempniak has any real value?

Schlemko, Gelinas, and Stempniak should all be traded. Sell, sell, sell!!
 
Schlemko, Gelinas, and Stempniak should all be traded. Sell, sell, sell!!
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I think the devils will be watching the Penguin game closely. Even with the games in hand, they are only 1 pt ahead and playing the same middling game as the devils right now. If the Penguins look vulnerable, and with 2 more games upcoming against the Penguins, still think they think they got a shot. Plus, the vet trade bait for the devils will probably return peanuts.
 
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