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OT: Official 2021 NY Mets Season Thread

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From the replay I saw the ball was clearly fair. Unless, as has been suggested, it hit the batter's leg (which I did not see). If so, it should have immediately been called foul and there would have been no need to swipe at the ball.
 
From the replay I saw the ball was clearly fair. Unless, as has been suggested, it hit the batter's leg (which I did not see). If so, it should have immediately been called foul and there would have been no need to swipe at the ball.
The way Walker played it, it must have looked to be foul. You see guys toss the ball off like that with the glove quite a bit if it is foul of the line. I wonder if it bouncing foul and then came back into play through him off and maybe the last time he actually looked it was on the fould side of the line
 
Frankly, there was a lot of crime in DC on January 6th.
A bunch of sore losers turned into traitors and insurrectionists.
And your doofus and side kick has united the country the past 6 months? Looks like more proof everyday BLM and other "plants" were there to stir the pot. Shocked you'd even show your face in this thread, so I guess The Dead Zone is still Dead, lmfao
 
Just waiting for this thread to get shut down because of the usual stupid argument between the usual two sides who bow and bends for their way of life instead of… I don’t know… compromising for the good of this country.

Oh well, this thread was fun while it lasted…

IN.

LETS GO METS!
 
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Frankly, there was a lot of crime in DC on January 6th.
A bunch of sore losers turned into traitors and insurrectionists.
Were they any worse than the traitors and insurrectionists from the left who tried to assault Rand Paul and others as they left the presidents speech the last night of the convention last summer? The problem is both sides ignore problem and only want to see it from their own slanted view. People need to step back and realize the hyper partisans on each side are the problem. They have crowded out the moderates and compromise is now a bad word. Think before you post.
 
I agree with Doc above the replay showed the ball to be fair although we will never know from Walker's angle if he saw it clearly in the midst of the play. I am glad the team got fired up over something. Reds just got swept by the Brewers and may be giving up. We really need to go in there and win the series.
 
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Just waiting for this thread to get shut down because of the usual stupid argument between the usual two sides who bow and bends for their way of life instead of… I don’t know… compromising for the good of this country.

Oh well, this thread was fun while it lasted…

IN.

LETS GO METS!
It won't get shut down. Not a chance.
 
I agree with Doc above the replay showed the ball to be fair although we will never know from Walker's angle if he saw it clearly in the midst of the play. I am glad the team got fired up over something. Reds just got swept by the Brewers and may be giving up. We really need to go in there and win the series.
Go to 3:10 of this Jomboy video. Like I said earlier from the home plate view, ball is over the line but not touching it ( maybe that’s too technical so I’d say it’s fair. But next shot is from Walkers view and it looked like there was a slither of some dirt between the ball and the line before Walker scooped it up. So he may have a point in the argument.

But next time just keep the ball in the glove for minimal damage, lol.

Oh and after last week I would say anything about the Reds at this time. Hopefully the Mets won’t be their vaccine for losing and they puts the Reds out of their misery.

 
As a general rule, when you want a slow roller to be ruled foul, we were trained to quickly touch the ball to establish it as foul, which at times resulted in slapping it away rather than taking the time to pick it up. But if the foul/fair call is going to be close and could go either way, it's none-too-smart to slap it away, and certainly not that far away. As we all saw. It's even less smart to argue about it after the ump calls it fair. As far as the ump's call, it was reasonable, and I don't agree that it could've been overturned by replay.

Whatever. They won.
 
Go to 3:10 of this Jomboy video. Like I said earlier from the home plate view, ball is over the line but not touching it ( maybe that’s too technical so I’d say it’s fair. But next shot is from Walkers view and it looked like there was a slither of some dirt between the ball and the line before Walker scooped it up. So he may have a point in the argument.

But next time just keep the ball in the glove for minimal damage, lol.

Oh and after last week I would say anything about the Reds at this time. Hopefully the Mets won’t be their vaccine for losing and they puts the Reds out of their misery.

As I watch this closer- the base of the ball that is actually in contact with the ground may actually be foul but the side of the ball that is not in contact with the ground is just on the line. It is a lot closer to foul than I initially thought.
 
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The Phils are comin' for ya...
If the Phils' bullpen does not implode. Congrats on feasting on the dead fish! Schedule about to get tougher, including a series against the newly formidable Pirates.

Mets need to figure out how to consistently score runs in almost every game and what their pitching rotation will look like without deGrom. Other than that, Mets shall win the division.
 
Were they any worse than the traitors and insurrectionists from the left who tried to assault Rand Paul and others as they left the presidents speech the last night of the convention last summer?
Is that a serious question ?
You need to look up the words TRAITOR and INSURRECTIONISTS. I don't believe that a few people allegedly scaring Rand Paul qualifies. But storming the Capital, beating the crap out of Capital police, attempting to harm Congress members and prevent them from exercising their duty to affirm the duly certified results of a Presidential election because their orange-faced Mussolini wannabe got his ass kicked by 7 million votes by Get 'Er Done Biden clearly is.
And hopefully those traitors will soon pay for their crimes.
LOCK 'EM UP
 
Is that a serious question ?
You need to look up the words TRAITOR and INSURRECTIONISTS. I don't believe that a few people allegedly scaring Rand Paul qualifies. But storming the Capital, beating the crap out of Capital police, attempting to harm Congress members and prevent them from exercising their duty to affirm the duly certified results of a Presidential election because their orange-faced Mussolini wannabe got his ass kicked by 7 million votes by Get 'Er Done Biden clearly is.
And hopefully those traitors will soon pay for their crimes.
LOCK 'EM UP
Can you please stop- and that goes for the other guy too - this is a baseball thread and you are not even a fan of the team and most likely want someone to shut it down just because you got kicked out of it last year. One more political comment and I assure you will be banned again.
 
Is that a serious question ?
You need to look up the words TRAITOR and INSURRECTIONISTS. I don't believe that a few people allegedly scaring Rand Paul qualifies. But storming the Capital, beating the crap out of Capital police, attempting to harm Congress members and prevent them from exercising their duty to affirm the duly certified results of a Presidential election because their orange-faced Mussolini wannabe got his ass kicked by 7 million votes by Get 'Er Done Biden clearly is.
And hopefully those traitors will soon pay for their crimes.
LOCK 'EM UP
There you go again spouting nonsense. You have been brainwashed by talking points. I watched both events and was equally disturbed that they were happening in America and ashamed for our country. Rand Paul was attacked physically by another deranged leftist on a different occasion. If you cannot see beyond your blind partisan politics that extremism exists on both sides and both sides are endangering democracy by not calling out far left and far right violence, you are no better than the people you choose to condemn.
I told you before to think before you post, but as I have learned from your other "contributions" thinking is something you clearly struggle with. Name calling is the sign of low intellect.
 
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Can you please stop- and that goes for the other guy too - this is a baseball thread and you are not even a fan of the team and most likely want someone to shut it down just because you got kicked out of it last year. One more political comment and I assure you will be banned again.
O.K.
Fair enough.
But I just have a hard time not responding to the nonsense from the reactionaries.
I'll try harder.
BTW, Mets= 48 wins.....Yankees=48 wins.
 
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As I watch this closer- the base of the ball that is actually in contact with the ground may actually be foul but the side of the ball that is not in contact with the ground is just on the line. It is a lot closer to foul than I initially thought.
So the question is: Does the ball have to touch the line or be over the line to be fair?

DAMM 4K TV, LOL!!!!!!!
 
True but it's a season thread for a team in a pennant race. I think the offending posts would be removed before that would happen. And even if it did another would just be started anyway.
Hope you’re right. Would be a shame because there’s some good baseball talk, aside from the fans moaning about the Mets lol.
 
So the question is: Does the ball have to touch the line or be over the line to be fair? . . .

Touch. But that's not the question. The questions are, did it and is the video clear enough? And my answer to that is that the call would not have been overturned.
 
If the Phils' bullpen does not implode. Congrats on feasting on the dead fish! Schedule about to get tougher, including a series against the newly formidable Pirates.

Mets need to figure out how to consistently score runs in almost every game and what their pitching rotation will look like without deGrom. Other than that, Mets shall win the division.

We shall see...

Hey why are the Pirates newly formidable and the Fish aren't?
 
We shall see...

Hey why are the Pirates newly formidable and the Fish aren't?
Because my narrative would be destroyed?
Them Pirates were tough. They hate the Mets, it seems. Maybe they will drift back to crappiness, but just by the eyeball test, they had some solid hitters who were hitting. Found it hard to believe they had the worst offense in the NL. Just looked it up, they are now 9th in NL in batting average, (0.005 behind the Phils), but last in slugging %, and second to last in OPS.

No doubt that presently, the Mets are flailing and failing, and the Phils are on the move.
 
So the question is: Does the ball have to touch the line or be over the line to be fair?

DAMM 4K TV, LOL!!!!!!!
Good question. Let’s say it actually stopped exactly where he touched it and the base of the ball that is in actual contact to the ground is not touching but as the ball widens it is over the line but not touching…hmmm
I would have to think it would be foul, but don’t know for sure
 
Touch. But that's not the question. The questions are, did it and is the video clear enough? And my answer to that is that the call would not have been overturned.
Y'all probably know this, but the play was not reviewable. Fair/foul calls are only reviewable after the ball passes 1st or 3rd base. No idea why.
 
O.K.
Fair enough.
But I just have a hard time not responding to the nonsense from the reactionaries.
I'll try harder.
BTW, Mets= 48 wins.....Yankees=48 wins.
Write it in the Dead Zone, it despartly needs the traffic.PS.Why haven't we seen you in a long time? Lmao
 
All ball has to do is touch the line to be fair. Foul lines (and pole) are mis-named. They are actually in fair territory.
Our question is slightly different. As a ball is round, the bottom of it could possibly be in foul territory but the "fatter" part of the ball that is not in contact with the ground could actually be over the line. If the part of the ball not touching the ground is over the line when touched but the bottom is not, what is it, fair or foul?
 
Because my narrative would be destroyed?
Them Pirates were tough. They hate the Mets, it seems. Maybe they will drift back to crappiness, but just by the eyeball test, they had some solid hitters who were hitting. Found it hard to believe they had the worst offense in the NL. Just looked it up, they are now 9th in NL in batting average, (0.005 behind the Phils), but last in slugging %, and second to last in OPS.

No doubt that presently, the Mets are flailing and failing, and the Phils are on the move.

LOL. I hear ya. The Fish have owned the Phils for the last couple of years. Was surprised they didn't this week.

Maybe the Phils actually make a run and we have a fun Sept. I suspect the Bull Pen will see to that not happening.
 
Our question is slightly different. As a ball is round, the bottom of it could possibly be in foul territory but the "fatter" part of the ball that is not in contact with the ground could actually be over the line. If the part of the ball not touching the ground is over the line when touched but the bottom is not, what is it, fair or foul?
Unless you have an underground camera or laser system, there is no way to see that from an umpire or players view point.
 
Good question. Let’s say it actually stopped exactly where he touched it and the base of the ball that is in actual contact to the ground is not touching but as the ball widens it is over the line but not touching…hmmm
I would have to think it would be foul, but don’t know for sure
Unless you have an underground camera or laser system, there is no way to see that from an umpire or players view point.
Our question is slightly different. As a ball is round, the bottom of it could possibly be in foul territory but the "fatter" part of the ball that is not in contact with the ground could actually be over the line. If the part of the ball not touching the ground is over the line when touched but the bottom is not, what is it, fair or foul?
Maybe because of this, all the ball has to do is “break the plane” just like a football over the goal line for a TD. Even I can’t blame the umps for that. Looked fair to him because the ball was over the line but not touching. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
I still say that the ball nipped the batter in the pants leg while he was still in the box= foul ball.

OK… I’ll stop talking about this play LMAO.

 
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