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OT: Official 2021 NY Mets Season Thread

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Per Buster Olney:

- Mets will get 1 of these hitters: Story ; Bryant or Baez. Who does everyone prefer? Normally I’d say Bryant but given Lindor injury, I might prefer Story. I think Mets end up with Bryant.

- Red Sox will acquire Rizzo.
 
Per Buster Olney:

- Mets will get 1 of these hitters: Story ; Bryant or Baez. Who does everyone prefer? Normally I’d say Bryant but given Lindor injury, I might prefer Story. I think Mets end up with Bryant.

- Red Sox will acquire Rizzo.
All things considered, I would rather have Kimbral. A back end of Lugo, Loop, Diaz and Kimbral could be lethal down the stretch.
 
Was away on vaca so wasn't posting much.

Great series win. Rich Hill trade was meh. Pumped for deadline week!! Think we make a move for a above average bullpen arm and one more depth starter.
 
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Per Buster Olney:

- Mets will get 1 of these hitters: Story ; Bryant or Baez. Who does everyone prefer? Normally I’d say Bryant but given Lindor injury, I might prefer Story. I think Mets end up with Bryant.

- Red Sox will acquire Rizzo.
Not crazy about any of these. Definitely don't want Baez.
 
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Per Buster Olney:

- Mets will get 1 of these hitters: Story ; Bryant or Baez. Who does everyone prefer? Normally I’d say Bryant but given Lindor injury, I might prefer Story. I think Mets end up with Bryant.

- Red Sox will acquire Rizzo.
After the HR Derby, I have been down on Story. Didn't like that he was adamant about the need to pull the ball. And this is at one of the easiest HR hitting parks in baseball. And just what do we have to pay these guys or is it just a 1/2 year rental?
But if given the choice- my first thought would be Bryant but another part of me does want to continue to add some speed along with the power so the other two guys not bad choices either. But what do we give up and will we try to sign any of these guys long ter,? Bryant may be the perfect bridge to Baty.
 
I'm just the messenger on this one. Will believe it when I see it, and maybe not even then.

I know said HELL NO a couple of weeks ago, I’d see how cheap I can get Scherzer as a rental. Better him than Story/Bryant/Baez. He’s worth a hell of a lot more than Rich Hill obviously. But how much will he cost to trade within the division. Wouldn’t pull the trigger if that price is too much.
 
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Kinda sorta. The Blue Jays AAA team is, and will continue to be, the Buffalo Bisons. However, due to COVID the Blue Jays could not get into Canada. Therefore, they played in Buffalo. This meant that the Bisons needed a home, so they moved to Trenton.

The marketing approach of the Thunderous Bison is interesting. At "home" in Trenton, they wear Trenton Thunder uniforms and brand themselves accordingly. However, on the road, they revert to their normal Buffalo Bison branding.

The Blue Jays return to Canada on July 30, and the Thunderous Bison return to Buffalo on August 10. So if you want to see the AAA Trenton Thunder this year (or possibly ever), better hurry!
I hope MLB and the minor leagues can work something out where the Thunder remain an actual team in the future instead of the showcase thing.

And yes, I knew it was just for the year...the Blue Jays.
 
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I really think the injuries to our pitchers are a result of last season being shortened by Covid. 60 games last year followed by a full 162 this year is tough, especially on pitchers who likely lost are strength and endurance pitching so many fewer innings last year. I cannot recall a season where we went through so many pitchers getting hurt on the Mets.
 
I really think the injuries to our pitchers are a result of last season being shortened by Covid. 60 games last year followed by a full 162 this year is tough, especially on pitchers who likely lost are strength and endurance pitching so many fewer innings last year. I cannot recall a season where we went through so many pitchers getting hurt on the Mets.
But then I would think all teams would be affected equally…the Mets always seem to be way behind other teams on the injury curve.
 
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Yup. But lengthy debates under the original tweet.

He is growing on me...He has done something to keep this team where it is, head in the game and light hearted. Without that leadership- team could have given up early.
I still think he is a puppet and his pitching moves sometimes make no sense but beginning to realize that if you go around the league- this is now said about every single manager out there.

What I really like about this team- with the injuries to the lineup and the guys that filled in. The backup players stepped up to the task and kept this team in it and kept our lead. I said it all along- they are not starters and we could never hope to keep winning all year with them as starters but as our guys began coming back- the backups that stepped in, fell back to their very important roles and just keep playing their hearts out, the guys that were injured have come back strong and I do not feel they have peaked at all.
What I hope moving forward is with the pitching staff. I feel like when we had no offense and they were all injured, our guys like Stroman, Walker were doing their deGrom imitation. They pitched every single pitch like it was game 7 with a 1 run lead. Since we started to get some guys back- it seems that these guys are doing what every starter does over a long season- pitching for the long season and not every single pitch.
Over all - the team screams that it is built for a magic ride. They play with a bit of a 86 attitude. They have a very good solid bench(said it many times, this is how championship benches look) and they do have a pitching staff that can get on a roll where they are unhittable. What I do not like- outside of the obvious like overall speed and defense- it is the knockout close the door 8 and 9 guys. They do have their up days but we need lock down.
 
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My uneducated GUESS is that they call up either Tropeano or Hartlieb. There just aren't a whole lot of options at this point.
My guess - they bring up Tropeano today as 27th man, then return him. Tomorrow they select Vance Worley, but they would need to make room for him on both the 26 and the 40.
 
He is growing on me...He has done something to keep this team where it is, head in the game and light hearted. Without that leadership- team could have given up early.
I still think he is a puppet and his pitching moves sometimes make no sense but beginning to realize that if you go around the league- this is now said about every single manager out there.

What I really like about this team- with the injuries to the lineup and the guys that filled in. The backup players stepped up to the task and kept this team in it and kept our lead. I said it all along- they are not starters and we could never hope to keep winning all year with them as starters but as our guys began coming back- the backups that stepped in, fell back to their very important roles and just keep playing their hearts out, the guys that were injured have come back strong and I do not feel they have peaked at all.
What I hope moving forward is with the pitching staff. I feel like when we had no offense and they were all injured, our guys like Stroman, Walker were doing their deGrom imitation. They pitched every single pitch like it was game 7 with a 1 run lead. Since we started to get some guys back- it seems that these guys are doing what every starter does over a long season- pitching for the long season and not every single pitch.
Over all - the team screams that it is built for a magic ride. They play with a bit of a 86 attitude. They have a very good solid bench(said it many times, this is how championship benches look) and they do have a pitching staff that can get on a roll where they are unhittable. What I do not like- outside of the obvious like overall speed and defense- it is the knockout close the door 8 and 9 guys. They do have their up days but we need lock down.
The Yankee thread is brutal on Boone right now.
Not saying Rojas is a great manager. But he has managed to keep the Mets in first place despite all of the injuries. Good leaders learn from their mistakes and recognize their shortcomings. Pitching decisions at this point in the season seem to be driven more by total innings pitched than individual game situations, but that is just speculation.
 
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I really think the injuries to our pitchers are a result of last season being shortened by Covid. 60 games last year followed by a full 162 this year is tough, especially on pitchers who likely lost are strength and endurance pitching so many fewer innings last year. I cannot recall a season where we went through so many pitchers getting hurt on the Mets.
Are other teams going through the same thing? If not, then its not due to Covid.
 
Tropeano scares me. I wish there were other options.
There ain't.

On the 40 man, the Mets have only three healthy pitchers: Tropeano, Hartlieb, and Ramirez (who was just acquired). The latter two are strictly relievers. I guess it's possible that either could be called up today and used as an opener, or just to have around as needed.

Outside the 40 man, I think Vance Worley is the most likely option and I think we'll see him Tuesday.

BTW, Syracuse has a team ERA of 6.19. Not so good.
 
Just by playing fantasy baseball in a few leagues- I have never seen injuries like we have seen this year.
I’m dumping in 1 league. Would you make this deal:

Jansen at $15 and Justin Turner at $23 for Austin Riley at $10? I would have Riley for next year and I can conceivably keep Jansen and Turner for 2 more years but their age worries me. What are your thoughts? I’m leaning to making the trade given the salary relief for next year.
 
I’m dumping in 1 league. Would you make this deal:

Jansen at $15 and Justin Turner at $23 for Austin Riley at $10? I would have Riley for next year and I can conceivably keep Jansen and Turner for 2 more years but their age worries me. What are your thoughts? I’m leaning to making the trade given the salary relief for next year.
I haven't done a keeper/$$$ league in a while. My first though is where you are "this year" as the move you are looking to make is more about next year and making cap space as Turner/Jansen are big performers this year. Riley is doing well but doesn't compare. The other kick in the ass and we all know it will happen if you make the trade- Turner/Jansen will defy odds and have huge years for the next two with no drop off. lol I you keep them, you know damn well, next year will suck and you won't even want them for the 2nd year. lol But, unless I am in the top 3 this year, I think I make the trade. Colsers can come out of the wood work very cheap if needed. and Riley has a lot of upside and if he falls- you are only in it for a year and not a big cap hit.
 
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Baseball America has issued its midseason update of Top 100 prospects. Mets have five:

#18 - Francisco Alvarez - holding steady
#65 - Brett Baty - Stock UP!
#66 - Kumar Rocker - New entry
#71 - Ronny Mauricio - Stock DOWN
#97 - Mark Vientos - Stock UP!

The person who is missing is Matthew Allan. He has fallen out of their Top 100, I assume due to his injury. But he is still very much in the Mets plans.

On a very much related issue, Andy Martino is reporting that the Mets current focus is on RENTAL PITCHERS who might come cheaply in terms of prospects. My personal view is that the top three listed prospects, plus Allen, are untouchable. I'd part with either Mauricio or Vientos in the right deal, but not both, and probably not for a rental.
 
Sounds like Rocker has some sort of injury hence why we haven't announced his signing yet. Could be another TJS situation but we'll see. Every other draft pick is signed already.
 
Baseball America has issued its midseason update of Top 100 prospects. Mets have five:

#18 - Francisco Alvarez - holding steady
#65 - Brett Baty - Stock UP!
#66 - Kumar Rocker - New entry
#71 - Ronny Mauricio - Stock DOWN
#97 - Mark Vientos - Stock UP!

The person who is missing is Matthew Allan. He has fallen out of their Top 100, I assume due to his injury. But he is still very much in the Mets plans.

On a very much related issue, Andy Martino is reporting that the Mets current focus is on RENTAL PITCHERS who might come cheaply in terms of prospects. My personal view is that the top three listed prospects, plus Allen, are untouchable. I'd part with either Mauricio or Vientos in the right deal, but not both, and probably not for a rental

Makes sense. With deGrom, Walker, Carrasco, the emergent Megill and Peterson all under contract for next season. Plus I have to figure they will bring back Stroman and possibly Noah. I'm not even sure what Hill's contract status is but you could be actually looking at a surplus.
 
Tropeano up as 27th man. I expect we'll see him in Game 2, especially if TBA is unavailable.
 
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