OT: Official 2021 NY Mets Season Thread
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Manager has to pay if he doesn’t make players accountable. You need to meet them on top step of dugout and lay into both of them
GIDP saves Pillar and conforto’s a$$
GIDP saves Pillar and conforto’s a$$
Pitcher totally lost and can’t throw a strike gets out of inning
Key to inning ....McNeil 2-0 chasing ball 2 inches high
Key to inning ....McNeil 2-0 chasing ball 2 inches high
I was worried about the D all offseason. Good pitching requires good fielding to be completely effective. I know Sandy believes you can win by outslugging the opposition and fielding is secondary but it really comes back to bite you when the team is slumping.
You are of course right. Sandy is a product of the Moneyball system. Of the three facets of the game (pitching, offense, defense), he believes that defense is the least important. You'd love to have all three, but if you must sacrifice one, it's defense.
If you are scoring a lot of runs, and your pitchers are recording 30% of the outs on strikeouts, then defense can be considered secondary. But when you're not hitting, as the Mets are not, then the lack of defense is magnified.
The Mets defensive deficiencies will cost them games. Same with the bullpen. We all knew that going in. The assumption was that they would hit enough to overcome it.
If the Mets aren't top quartile in offensive production this year, they won't win. Right now they are bottom quartile. That must change.
Biggest mistake by the Mets was bring back Sandy Alderson. Mets went to the World Series despite him and it’s showing now.
Moneyball is about finding under valued assets in the game not anything specific. At the time the book was written it was no defense and getting guys who get on base not just by hitting. That has changed but maybe Sandy hasn't who knows.
You can make the argument that the Mets would have been better off trading for Arenado than Lindor; provided they could keep Gimenz. I think the offense between Arenado and Lindor would be a wash and a left side of Arenado and Gimenz is superior to Davis and Lindor.
Never thought of that, but it has merit for sure.
Great call. Isn't much of an argument IMHO either.
It’s very early but $341 million for Lindor is looking kind of silly right now. .204 with 3 RBI in 14 games.
What would it have taken for the Met's to pull off the trade. Would it have happened with the players the Met's sent to Clev? It may have but then I don't think Rockies also pay off $51 mil of his contract- we may have had to eat it all
Yeah- it is about as way to early as one could possibly imagine. I look at it this way- it took about this long for Lindor to wake up in spring training. And with the way the Met's season has started with all the canceled games- very difficult to get into a flow. But I bet we can still write down .275 30 HR for the guy. And some great defense and leadership
It is 14 games. If it happened mid-season no one would notice.
What bothers me as I've said a few times is that this is exactly what I've come to expect from him in October. Now whether or not our club can make it there would make this a moot point.
Typical Mets. 1st and 3rd with one out. McNeil is a contact hitter, and since Conforto doesn't steal, Washington wished for a double play and received one. If only the rest of the team hustled like Pete, maybe they score at least one run last inning. I thought a hit and run would keep them out of a double play while getting Washington's infield to move around to cover 2nd base. It might have led to a hit for McNeil. No creativity with the manager to change the narrative of the team.
Time to clean house. Rebuild with players who have a winning mentality and some leadership skills.
I have a feeling Rojas is going to be great for a lot of opposing teams.
The talent is there, but in any sport, the team takes on the manager's personality. That is where the problem for the Mets starts and ends.
Since NOBODY plays hit and run anymore, it's tough to criticize Rojas for not doing so.
Not saying you're wrong. Just saying the game has changed. Whether for better or worse is a matter of opinion.
Clean house you say? Who are you unloading, who are you keeping?
Are you willing to unload deGrom? Because if you are serious about rebuilding (which you SHOULDN'T be, but if you are), that's the obvious starting point.
The long ball has made the game nearly unwatchable. If you want more excitement in the game, hit & run is a great way to generate excitement and help a struggling offense.
One problem I find with baseball is tradition overrules everything. If you can't adapt or adjust, you will continue to fail.
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Pretty amazing Pedro Cerrano became president of the United States later in life !!
And then moved on to Allstate commercials.
See what happens when you send the runner, and the defense goes into panic mode trying to make a play. That should have been a routine ground ball out.
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