Need to jump on the Braves while they are down. We will have our hands full in Tampa where we normally do not play well. Miami has some good young pitching. This will be a tough trip.
OT: Official 2021 NY Mets Season Thread
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Miami has a ton of flame throwers. How do they always have home grown talent?
Looks like they have a great scouting and farm system who always develop great prospects. Unfortunately the Marlins never have the money to keep their own players once they reach the majors:
When you have fire sales every few years of your major league talent, you get back a ton of high draft picks or really young talent. Miami has time to develop them and tap into some of that talent until it's time to pay for big contracts. Then the process starts all over again. Check back in 3 or 4 years to see who is still standing with Miami.
Maybe you should channel that energy into monitoring the status of current Mets prospects - any of whom may outshine what's-his-name. You never know.
To that end, Baseball America just did its Spring update of its Top 100 prospects. Pete Crow-Armstrong sneaked in at #100. Ronny Mauricio improved 8 spots to #57, and Francisco Alvarez improved 27 spots to #40. Expect Brett Baty to make the list soon too. Unfortunately, Matt Allan dropped off the list, no doubt due to his injury.
Which is about the time that we stop paying BVW-IQ’s client, Cano, who will be 172 years old at the time.
I hate to say that regardless of what type of success Kelenic ends up having or not, this trade was just idiotic. Even if Diaz ends up a top notch closer for years.
Kelenic's potential and the fanfare about his start in the majors is a once in a decade event. It is hyped as much as a Griffey/Strawberry. Just the pre hype alone and the excitement is worth anything he ends up bring but he does look like that once in a decade sure fire star.
Kelenic's potential and the fanfare about his start in the majors is a once in a decade event. It is hyped as much as a Griffey/Strawberry. Just the pre hype alone and the excitement is worth anything he ends up bring but he does look like that once in a decade sure fire star.
Looking at today's game- here is hoping Peterson has one of his hot games. They have a damn good pitcher going. Our team makes me feel each day that if the other team score 3, we are going to lose.
MLB social media is acting like he’s Bryce Harper and Mike Trout. So that should already tell you how stupid BVW was.
BVW is an idiot. SNY covered this topic and said the Mets had Seattle between a rock and a hard place. The problem was BVW didn't listen to his staff, who knew Seattle was willing to take a lot less to get rid of Cano's contract. Kelenic didn't have to be a part of the deal, and Diaz would have still ended up with the Mets.
Harper is not in the same conversation as Trout. Harper's defense prevents him from being considered. Now that I think of it, Harper's offense is inconsistent compared to Trout.
While a bad trade, all the pearl clutching over losing Kelenic is stupid.
Best case scenario - he is identical to Trout. Still doesn't guarantee your team makes the playoffs
See Trout's lengthy playoff accomplishments.
Someone said it in the MVP award thread - of the major sports, baseball is where an "individual player" is the least impactful on team success.
Again - see Trout and his multiple MVPs (including this year?) and his team being terrible every year.
Best case scenario - he is identical to Trout. Still doesn't guarantee your team makes the playoffs
See Trout's lengthy playoff accomplishments.
Someone said it in the MVP award thread - of the major sports, baseball is where an "individual player" is the least impactful on team success.
Again - see Trout and his multiple MVPs (including this year?) and his team being terrible every year.
LOL this could be one of the dumbest takes I have ever seen. Yeah who wants the best baseball player of his generation who will end their career in the conversation of best ever!! Not Trout's fault the Angels have failed to build a proper team around him.
Without even considering the Diaz and Kelenic aspects of the trade, the Cano portion of it was legendarily bad. It was jaw-droppingly stupid the moment it happened and hasn't been anything but that since then.
We can take solace, however, in the fact that BVW-IQ is now somewhere walking around with his phone to his ear acting like he's in a very important conversation--and it has nothing to do with the Mets. Beyond that, we can just hope that Seattle hires him as their GM, in which case we'll immediately be able to swap Cano for Kelenic.
We can take solace, however, in the fact that BVW-IQ is now somewhere walking around with his phone to his ear acting like he's in a very important conversation--and it has nothing to do with the Mets. Beyond that, we can just hope that Seattle hires him as their GM, in which case we'll immediately be able to swap Cano for Kelenic.
The level of critical analysis on here never fails.
You proved my point. Thanks.
Even having the greatest player of the generation doesn't guarantee even mediocre success in MLB.
Does having Trout make it easier? Sure. (although his contract may actually hamper).
MLB is much more the collective.
Name another sport where the best player of a generation never makes the playoffs?
Forget playoffs - Trout can't even force his team to .500 record most years.
Individual players (even the greatest) in MLB don't guarantee any type of team success.
I said MLB Social Media is acting like he’s like Harper since their IG and Twitter gives Harper the HOF treatment. I didn’t say how good Harper was.
Still a stupid trade that was really unnecessary.
It has nothing to do with critical thinking. Of course having a great player doesn't guarantee success but it makes it easier. It's a bad take period. Let's never get great players because they don't guarantee success!
And the loss of a generational player (if Kelenic is even that) isn't a death sentence in MLB.
You don't need Trout/Kelenic to win.
Makes it easier (hypothetically) but isn't necessary.
This isn't the Blazers passing on Jordan.
You are kidding, I hope. Dumbest take I have ever seen.
I would take an outfield of Yaz, Mays, Aaron and their combines 4 WS over about 70 years combined playing time any day.
Also as it relates to Kelenic you can pearl clutch because we'd be adding him to our roster now. Can you imagine adding Trout to the team we have built now? It's the best team in MLB at that point.
How long are the eeyores going to keep crying about Kelenic? For F's sake it's done. Over. Why keep dredging it up? Mets are 18-13 and in first place and some people just want to keep pissing and moaning.
Or maybe it tells you how stupid MLB social media is. Or both.
Now that is a good reason to complain.
Trout would never come here though - he prefers to reward incompetent management and stay with the Angels
I kid..I kid...
Do have to wonder if Trout ever gets tired of just collecting paychecks and forces a trade back to the East Coast.
C'mon man, you know the answer to that question. The bitchin' will continue for as long as we live. Probably longer, as we will pass it on to our descendants.
There are some on this board who haven't gotten over the Nolan Ryan trade. That was 50 years ago.
Again missing the point.
Interesting you mention Aaron (3 playoff apperences in 23 years) and Yaz (2 playoff apperences in 23 years)
Further proving my point that just having or missing out on 1 generational player doesn't really mean much. Its more the team than just having a great player on his own.
You are not alone here--I agree with you more on this than your assessment of McNulty as OC. 😉
To show you how the game has changed over the years: the Mets have played 31 games, and have already used 19 pitchers. Actually 20, if you count Guillorme.
The World Champion 1986 team used 15 pitchers all year.
The World Champion 1986 team used 15 pitchers all year.
No one is saying a single person will make a Baseball team win. But it is a stupid argument against having a top player.
Never said anything about being against acquiring a great player.
Never said making "dumb dee dumb dumb trades" are a good thing.
Merely pointing out that any individual player (even the greatest) isnt nearly as impactful as people make it out to be.
Never said making "dumb dee dumb dumb trades" are a good thing.
Merely pointing out that any individual player (even the greatest) isnt nearly as impactful as people make it out to be.
McNeil DH tonight, Peraza 2B, no Nimmo activation announced yet.
A great player under team control for a ton of years is very impactful with how the game is played now. It allows you to build around that guy would other great players. If he ends up a "Trout" level guy...It would only be the team's fault if they F it up.
And we are also double F-ed as the contract we took back binds us up.
But please- would I rather bring up a Kelenic and have him under control or bring up Luis Guillorme? It is about 100x for the former...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The CDC now recommends Mets fans do not track every single at bat of Jarred Kelenic’s major league career, it is not healthy</p>— Richard Staff (@RichardStaff) <a href="">
Career minor leaguer Jake Hager was scratched from the starting lineup for Syracuse tonight, to the applause of his teammates. Could be nothing, could be something.
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