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OT: Official 2021 NY Mets Season Thread

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I wonder if it was another pitcher we might be playing. The home team apparently has pull in games getting cancelled or not, I wouldn't want Jake out in this weather pitching.
The home team has more than just "pull". It has full decision making authority, up to the point where the lineup cards are exchanged. At that point control shifts to the umpires.
 
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need a spot on the 40. Who goes?
Maybe they do this:

Activate Lugo and Pillar from IL, and promote Williams. DFA Maybin and Tarpley. Option Lee and Drew Smith to Syracuse.

Alternatively, they could move somebody from the 10 day IL to the 60 day IL There's probably somebody whose prognosis would warrant such action.

EDIT: Seeing now that since Pillar is ready to be activated, Mets will hold off on activating Williams. He will travel with team on taxi squad.
 
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Good to see reinforcements coming back imminently with Alonso; Pillar and Lugo. Hopefully JD back shortly as well.

I'm shocked Pillar is returning so quickly. Hopefully he has the same fire; prowess; results and determination that he had pre beaning.

Will be interesting to see how Rojas integrates them into the lineup etc.
 
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Yeah with the Stanks getting swept by the might Tigers the Three Stooges definitely won't show up in this thread for a bit.
Have they won since the moronic statement of NL East= weakest division? Talk about the Rutgers screw. That thread is back to the dead zone 2.0 just like death and taxes, sooo predictable.
 
Yeah with the Stanks getting swept by the might Tigers the Three Stooges definitely won't show up in this thread for a bit.
I don’t know why people keeps begging those three to show up to spew their garbage, esp when it’s been garbage free here. Now all of a sudden one of their nimrods show up. It’s like looking for trouble after saying Beetle Juice three times.
 
. . . Rojas, seems to have the players behaving as individuals, giving them the rope to express excitement toward one another. This builds team unity . . .
Oh my. Perhaps he performed Reiki and by manipulating the life force around each player revealed their true inner selves and taught them not to judge. Or instead he emulated the two-bit carney hypnotist in The Natural: “Losing is a disease. . . Ah, but curable.” Now if only he had aimed his new age powers at the offense, the team might not be next to last in MLB in runs scored per game. He seems to have aimed his powers only at the pitching.

Oh, wait. Maybe it’s just that the pitching has been good, and it’s had little to do with Rojas. . . . Nah, it’s the Reiki.
 
Oh my. Perhaps he performed Reiki and by manipulating the life force around each player revealed their true inner selves and taught them not to judge. Or instead he emulated the two-bit carney hypnotist in The Natural: “Losing is a disease. . . Ah, but curable.” Now if only he had aimed his new age powers at the offense, the team might not be next to last in MLB in runs scored per game. He seems to have aimed his powers only at the pitching.

Oh, wait. Maybe it’s just that the pitching has been good, and it’s had little to do with Rojas. . . . Nah, it’s the Reiki.
Rojoas has almost nothing to do with what is going on and it could be argued we would have a couple more wins without him. Let's see if he goes about putting Diaz in on non save or a 2nd inning again. If he does, then he is still an idiot. lol
As you said- it is the pitching. We score 3 runs and we usually win and if we give up 3 runs we usually lose.
 
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Rojoas has almost nothing to do with what is going on and it could be argued we would have a couple more wins without him. Let's see if he goes about putting Diaz in on non save or a 2nd inning again. If he does, then he is still an idiot. lol
As you said- it is the pitching. We score 3 runs and we usually win and if we give up 3 runs we usually lose.
They are winning despite Rojas. If the Mets contend, he could easily be their undoing. He and Callaway have been the worst two managers they Mets have had since Art Howe, although Jerry Manual was right there with them.
 
Rojoas has almost nothing to do with what is going on and it could be argued we would have a couple more wins without him. Let's see if he goes about putting Diaz in on non save or a 2nd inning again. If he does, then he is still an idiot. lol
As you said- it is the pitching. We score 3 runs and we usually win and if we give up 3 runs we usually lose.
My belief about the negligible importance of managers goes both ways. Little to do with the wins, but also little to do with the losses.
 
My belief about the negligible importance of managers goes both ways. Little to do with the wins, but also little to do with the losses.
A manager needs to make sure the parts are moving. That there is a process and a plan. Make sure a player that is struggling gets the help they need, a hot player stays focused and to make in game personnel moves. When to go to the mound, take the heat and get their player off the field if there is a bad call.
I don't see Rojas doing any of that stuff. He makes the wrong moves all the time. But their pitching is pulling his ass out of jams. If by chance this BP was pitching like it has the past few years, we would be 5 games out. But our BP has been spot on for the most part and does not let games get out of hand or even let anyone score too often. But my gut tells me that if our BP sucked, Rojas would still be pulling starters out as fast as possible and handing it over.
He has pretty much lucked out.
 
A manager needs to make sure the parts are moving. That there is a process and a plan. Make sure a player that is struggling gets the help they need, a hot player stays focused and to make in game personnel moves. When to go to the mound, take the heat and get their player off the field if there is a bad call.
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Making sure the parts are moving is a vague term.

Having a process and a plan: Simple stuff in baseball. Lineup, starting pitchers, bullpen, whatever. Despite all the fan complaints, differences between manager moves are minimal as to won-loss record over the course of a year.

Make sure a player that is struggling gets the help they need: Players struggle on every team, every year, all the time. Every team has assistants to help. Yet struggles, slumps and hot streaks continue every year. Remember what a great pitching coach Leo Mazzoni supposedly was with the Braves. Suddenly he wasn't so helpful with the Orioles. I wonder why.

Make personnel moves (in game): See process and plan.

When to go to the mound: See process and plan, most of which is set now by the front office.

Take the heat and get their player off the field if there is a bad call: Totally irrlevant. But it would be fun to see Early Weaver or Wally Backman argue with umps.

This stuff is just lowering the microscope to over-analyze mostly inconsequential details while missing the big picture, which is collecting talent in your system and in the major leagues. And that's the front office's job, and that's where the important stuff happens.
 
Interesting. Would have guessed that Drew Smith would have gone down instead of Reid-Foley. But as both remain under team control, it probably doesn't matter much.

No one can be surprised about the Maybin DFA or the Lee demotion. Williams can't do worse, at least I hope not.

The most surprising announcement to me was the McWilliams DFA. I thought for sure Tarpley would draw the short straw. They say that a lefty reliever will always find a job somewhere. If so, there's your proof.
 
I know they gave McWilliams a decent amount of coin for a minor league free agent but he has been awful in Syracuse. He also didn't look the part in Spring Training. SRF will be up again soon when all the double headers start coming I think.
 
McWilliams. 8 IP, 8 BB, two hit batters. He looked like he had minimal control in spring training, I guess it didn’t get better in AAA, and with all the moves that the Mets have had to make because of injuries they finally had to make a decision about him. Maybe no one will take him. I doubt it though. Measurables.
 
Here we go! Alonso right into the starting lineup. As is Williams, rocking #70. All numbers matter.

 
Interesting. Would have guessed that Drew Smith would have gone down instead of Reid-Foley. But as both remain under team control, it probably doesn't matter much.

No one can be surprised about the Maybin DFA or the Lee demotion. Williams can't do worse, at least I hope not.

The most surprising announcement to me was the McWilliams DFA. I thought for sure Tarpley would draw the short straw. They say that a lefty reliever will always find a job somewhere. If so, there's your proof.
I thought you want to put your best players on the field at all times. I would rather have Reid-Foley up with Drew Smith down. Also, you activate Pillar, but he's not going to start/play for a few days... why? Pillar could have spent another few days on the IL and let another outfielder who could play stay for those days. Why activate Pillar?
 
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Question for the board. Has the Mets' brass ordered the pitchers not to swing for fear of getting hurt? The Mets have some good-hitting pitchers, but none have attempted to swing as they did earlier in the season.
 
Question for the board. Has the Mets' brass ordered the pitchers not to swing for fear of getting hurt? The Mets have some good-hitting pitchers, but none have attempted to swing as they did earlier in the season.

It's possible but that's not something that would be made public. deGrom and Walker had side injuries so could just be them.
 
Question for the board. Has the Mets' brass ordered the pitchers not to swing for fear of getting hurt? The Mets have some good-hitting pitchers, but none have attempted to swing as they did earlier in the season.
Coming off his injury, Walker clearly had no intention of swinging Saturday night. However, I think deGrom was prepared to swing at the first pitch in his first AB, a nasty curve which he took for a strike. If the plan was for him not to swing, he would have been bunting all the way.
 
Dom with his second double of the game. Could it be a breakout for him (and Pete)? I hope so. If this offense comes alive, I feel for the rest of the NL. The Mets would have the trifecta of Pitching, defense, and offense.
 
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Like clockwork, I set my Mets viewing according to Rojas' book. I become less interested because Rojas loves to force May, Loup, Barnes into games when he thinks it's safe. All they do is put fear into Mets fans as they give hope to the opposing team. The games don't become interesting until Rojas makes a move. 😲
 
What is the exit velo on Mays' pitches? It seems opposing players are taking BP swings on Mays' pitches.
 
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