OT: Official 2021 NY Mets Season Thread
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The pitching has carried this team for more than 2 months. Is when will the offense do it for more than a few games at a time?
I saw a stat where our record when giving up 3 or more runs is like 10 games under .500. That says that the hitters on this team rarely pick up a pitcher.
I have some theories about the entire situation.
1. Too many front-line starters hurt.
Short-term, it's easy to overcome, but the length of the current situation is beyond belief.
2. turnover of the replacement players is too much to overcome.
The number of players who have played this year is crazy. You're hard-pressed to build familiarity with teammates when they change every other week.
3. Too much movement within the batting lineup.
In one game, a guy is batting third, and the next, he's batting eighth. The pitches you see batting third are different than batting in front of the pitcher. Baseball is a game based on rhythm, and when it's lacking, it shows in your stats.
AMAZINGLY, the Mets have held it together this long.
You can train a dog to do a better job managing the situation. 😁
SNY crew going apesh** because the Nats too him out of the game for defensive purposes. He was due fifth next time Washington is up and ruined his chance for a 4 HR game.
Conforto played nine innings in RF today for Syracuse, which is very good news. Nimmo, in his first rehab game, played four innings in CF. McNeil did not play. Hopefully, that just means he's ready and we'll see him at Citi tomorrow. Hopefully.
Not gonna kill Rojas on this one. Schwarber may be their hottest hitter, but Turner is their best hitter. Schwarber is more likely to hit a homer, which he did. But Turner is more likely to hit a single, which scores a run, which you cannot afford to give up.
Walking Schwarber does set up the DP. Problem is, you're not doubling up Turner anyway. So all the walk accomplishes is adding another base runner.
No good options here. Pick your poison.
Walk someone batting in the 240's to get to someone batting over .300? Nah. I agree with you.
Rojas said that the plan is to activate McNeil today. He will likely play one game. He could conceivably be activated between games.
This is such a strange year. When we are winning- it is such a great feeling and it really feels we can just keep doing it this way all year. And when we lose a few- it feels like the team will never score again.
I am hoping the pitching can continue to do as they have been but really hope having McNeil back and Conforto and Nimmo soon behind him- we feel more the former. And see a lot more runs.
I give a ton of credit to the backups that have kept us where we are but really can't wait to have our starters back soon.
I am hoping the pitching can continue to do as they have been but really hope having McNeil back and Conforto and Nimmo soon behind him- we feel more the former. And see a lot more runs.
I give a ton of credit to the backups that have kept us where we are but really can't wait to have our starters back soon.
Don’t get me wrong, I want the starters back, but it seems like we played better without Davis, Conforto, McNeil and Nimmo.
I can only hope the Nimmo goes to left
And Pillar is a fixture in CF. Also, Davis should have to win the 3B job away from Villar.
I can only hope the Nimmo goes to left
And Pillar is a fixture in CF. Also, Davis should have to win the 3B job away from Villar.
As much as we have loved to watch Pillar and Villar play, Pillar is clearly a 4th OF- he is not a starter on 80% of teams out there. Villar, it is a better argument but only because Davis has been so bad in the field. If Davis were even just barely average at 3B...it would not be a discussion at all. Villar needs to be our super Util player.
What the Mets need now in the worst way is a consistent offense. Those players that can provide that are slowly coming back. The Mets need Nimmo and Conforto back to help the offense. I hope the Mets keep Pillar and McKinney as the extra outfielders. Davis and McNeil will provide more offense than Drury and Peraza. The problem the Mets will face is deciding if the extra position players are worth it, which means reducing the number of pitchers on the active roster.
We need some guys that can hit with some consistency. As in bases hits strung together. Rather than occasional solo home runs. Not having anyone in your lineup batting even .250 isn't gonna get it.
June 20: Nationals 5, Mets 2 -- Mets scoring on homers
It's been home-run-or-bust in recent days for New York, which scored just nine runs during its four-game series in Washington. Over their last 45 innings dating to Wednesday, the Mets have scored 10 times, with nine of those runs coming on homers. The only exception was a Francisco Lindor RBI single on Saturday.
June 20: Nationals 5, Mets 2 -- Mets scoring on homers
It's been home-run-or-bust in recent days for New York, which scored just nine runs during its four-game series in Washington. Over their last 45 innings dating to Wednesday, the Mets have scored 10 times, with nine of those runs coming on homers. The only exception was a Francisco Lindor RBI single on Saturday.
Agree with this 100% - while the added D is nice to have at CF, 2B, 3B
We need offense worst than Defense. We may be able to point to 2-3 games this season that defense was the difference make but I am sure there are way more games we can point to a lack of offense. And when you look at Pillar/Perraza, McKinner and even Villar- as a group, I am not sure their OBP is much over .300
That is why we don't score if we don't hit a HR.
Conforto is obvious- power bat- decent BA and good RF...There is no argument.
Villar seems like the obvious of the backups to give real consideration to but...he is also a very low OB guy. He has shown some pop but no more than Davis would. He does have speed on the bases but that would excite me more if he actually got on base more- but he is a GREAT guy to have on the team. He is a near starter on most teams. But...Davis, is a bat that can make a difference. It is the D that puts them neck/neck...
McNeil is at an average level for defense at 2B elite bat and an all around hustle type player- there is no argument to be made for anyone to start over him. Nimmo is elite bat- hustle guy and below ave in CF but he also makes some crazy good plays at times as well. He is a guy that starts in CF and moved to LF as defensive moves late in games but there is no way to start Pillar and his .285 UBP over him
This is a lot of words devoted to a debate that exists only on the internet. When these guys return, they start. There may be some platooning, but even then the returning guys will get more ABs. If JD stinks it up on the field and still has the yips, maybe he gets supplanted. But only maybe. That's it.
DeGrom announced as first game starter, vs. TBD. I know that Ian Anderson is to start one of the games. I wonder if Atlanta will choose not to "waste" him against deGrom.
Game 2 is TBD vs. TBD. My guess is Eickhoff.
Game 2 is TBD vs. TBD. My guess is Eickhoff.
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Nimmo , Davis still out
Villar 3B
Lindor SS
Conforto RF
Alonso 1B
Smith LF
McCann C
McNeil 2B
Pillar/McKinney CF
Nimmo back Davis still out
Nimmo CF
Lindor SS
Conforto RF
Alonso 1B
Smith LF
McCann C/Villar 3B
McNeil 2B
Villar 3B /McCann C
Villar 3B
Lindor SS
Conforto RF
Alonso 1B
Smith LF
McCann C
McNeil 2B
Pillar/McKinney CF
Nimmo back Davis still out
Nimmo CF
Lindor SS
Conforto RF
Alonso 1B
Smith LF
McCann C/Villar 3B
McNeil 2B
Villar 3B /McCann C
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I think he meant Villar 3B, McCann C, and they would be interchangeable between the 6 and 8 spots in the lineup.
Atlanta is doing exactly what I thought they might. They're starting a call up against deGrom in Game 1. Not exactly conceding, but...
Some rookie pitching for Atlanta in game one. Please put a crooked number up on the scoreboard.
With all of the infielders back hopefully Lindor can have a day off soon.
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