OT: Official 2022 NY Mets Season And Post Season Thread
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If we have the lead late give the ball to diaz in the 8th and hope he can close it out. we take game 1 and its all pressure on the braves the rest of the way. we clinch the season series and the tie breaker and go up two with 5 to play but in essence we are up 3 with the tie breaker..
Love the call up of Alvarez. Would have preferred a quicker call up for him in September to get his feet wet rather than tomorrows game against a premier pitcher in arguably the biggest game of the year but hopefully Alvarez will shine.
More so, I hope it gives the Mets an emotional lift just as what Baty did when he homered in his first AB vs Atlanta ironically.
In hopefully a non related matter, I hope by calling up Alvarez doesn’t indicate Marte is out for a continued longer time
More so, I hope it gives the Mets an emotional lift just as what Baty did when he homered in his first AB vs Atlanta ironically.
In hopefully a non related matter, I hope by calling up Alvarez doesn’t indicate Marte is out for a continued longer time
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In the industry? We don’t know what people in the industry believe. We know the thoughts of reporters, marketers and people outside the industry marketing their own lists and pseudo-evaluations made with nothing near the staff or evaluating tools that those in the industry use.
And, sure, some of these reporters and marketers get a smattering off off-the-record quotes from scouts or GMs, but remember that at least half the people that are actually in the industry are losing at this game. They’re evaluating and picking players badly—that is, unless you believe that Colorado’s, Pittsburgh’s, or Detroit’s evaluations are as meaningful as, say, Atlanta’s, L.A.’s and St. Louis’s.
Now, if we’re talking our own opinions, I do see Alvarez as a possible game changer. He can hit, quickly adjusted to become more selective at the plate, and can bomb the ball. To me (and, frankly, what do I know), he stands out as a legitimate top prospect. And he’s still very young. Vientos as a platooning righty DH out of spring training is possible, I’d guess, but that isn’t plan A for the Mets. Alvarez is Plan A, it’s just a matter of when they think he’ll be ready so that they can implement that plan on a full-time basis. If he hits during this call-up and in the spring, who knows, he might be starting in April. I’d guess later in the year though.
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I don’t think that’s a thing. They’ve really just been playing baseball games. Just like the Mets and everyone else.
The flip side of the Alvarez report is whose roster spot does he take. Has to be either Vientos or Ruf. Would not be surprised if Ruf incurs some sort of minor injury today, requiring about 10 days of rest.
I am quite certain he will not see any meaningful time behind the plate. Just DH.
I am quite certain he will not see any meaningful time behind the plate. Just DH.
Same industry that had Kelenic as the next Mike Trout.
What Zak is missing- we all ‘want’ Baty and Alvarez to be Wright and Piazza.
The “industry” does think Alvarez will be very good. And Baty has tools.
But we all know it means nothing. So far, Baty has been Kelenic up in the major league level and Alvarez was not successful in AAA but is still a baby.
We cannot go into a season depending on either guy as a starter.
we can hope both have an Alonso type spring training, but if they don’t, they aren’t starting
I'm not missing anything thanks. I never said anyone is going to come up and play like an AS right away. It's very rare what the Braves got from Harris and Grissom. You look at Riley with them to see sometimes it takes years for them to put it together. Obviously if you're a Mets fan you want them to do well and quick. I understand there's inherent risks with prospects. Teams rely on prospects all the time. Frankly the takes here are very odd especially the ones from willis and show a lack of understanding throughout the sport and how younger players are more integral than ever. Alvarez had a better OBP in AAA than he did in AA by the way. One of the very good parts of his bat is his plate discipline.
No reason to get salty. What you just wrote—other than agreeing with me on Alvarez—is all very amorphous. Pointing to “youth” doesn’t really mean anything in this discussion. All prospects, all young prospects, and all systems were not created equal. And if you want to shift from the specifics that we just discussed to the general, feel free to tell us what meaningful understanding you have regarding what’s going on throughout the sport that I or others don’t.
You rely on said youth when there is a glaring hole on your team. At C this may be the case but the case for Baty is based on your belief that Escobar is done.
I doubt the Mets replace a 10 guy with a power bat and GG type of D with an unproven rookie.
it is not the lack of understanding the sport and that in itself is showing that you may have a lack of something yourself..,
I really hope the Mets return to the patient, grind it out type of at bats they showed earlier in the season. Make Fried and the other ATL starters throw a ton of pitches early. They seem to have gotten away from that over the last couple of series.
Not seeing the value of bringing up Alvarez other than to expose him to the experience. Can’t imagine Buck playing him in such a critical series having never played in big leagues.
I absolutely can imagine it, and I am pretty sure we'll see it.
Alvarez is going to replace either Ruf or Vientos on the active roster, neither of whom has been productive. They need a righty DH tonight. It will either be Alvarez, or whomever is still here between Ruf and Vientos. You pick.
If you are saying that you can't imagine Alvarez catching, I agree.
I think it's a matter of alternatives. Neither Ruf nor Vientos has been hitting. At worst, he'd get what he's already been getting. On the other hand, he may catch lightning in a bottle.
This is me thinking optimistically. When we take the division what happens to Francisco Alvarez during the clubhouse celebration? Does he have to be excluded since he's not yet drinking age?
I watched the Jeter documentary and didn't realize Jeter was called up for a cup of coffee and was on the bench during the first Yankees playoff experience, when Mattingly was still there.
My guess is this is an opportunity to get him a couple of at bats, and give him the experience of a division race and high leverage big league games. It can only help him in his career. I don't think he'll get more then 10-12 at bats total unless the Mets have locked up the division with 3 to play against the Nats
While rain may not play into the games tonight or tomorrow, wind certainly could as it's pretty steady right now and a wind advisory is in place. In or out is the question?
Ruf should be let go. He’s absolutely useless and is taking up a roster spot.
I wonder whether he'll be in the lineup against Fried. Welcome to the big leagues, Mr. Hobbs.
I'm curious on how they go- Fried is not the pitcher I would want to start him with. My guess is that they would go with a seasoned pro even if he has sucked.
I was looking at our team against Fried- I am surprised how well many of our hitters have done against him
I kind of agree with what you're saying. Like Wednesday night after the Marlins had walked the bases full with less than 2 outs Lindor stepped in and swung at the 1st pitch and popped out to shallow center. And McNeil shortly thereafter did the same thing. I think Escobar really picked up a lot of guys in that game. Would like to see Canha get going once also. Lots of swing and miss from him lately.
I disagree. The data over multiple years clearly bears out that swinging at the first pitch pays off.
Do you know what the MLB batting average is, over multiple years, when the first pitch is put into play? It's .336. Three thirty-six. With an OPS of .912.
Why is this? What's so bad about taking the first pitch and going down 0-1? Well if you're 0-1, you're at risk of going 0-2. And if you go 0-2, you're pretty much dead. In another study, the MLB batting average at 0-2 is .157, with a .400 OPS.
The reason is obvious. If you put the first pitch in play, you didn't strike out. And in today's game, not striking out is half the battle.
Yes, working the count can be a good thing. But there's an opportunity cost - the damage that the batter didn't do with the called strike that he took.
Let’s sweep the Braves and then enjoy experimenting in the final 3 games with then a bye to rest up before returning to play.
well, there you have it - deGrom- pennant race and our next great catcher
Need a better deGrom than we've gotten the last couple of times out.
Ruf to the IL with a neck strain. Wink-wink.
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Mets call up top prospect Alvarez for MLB debut
Francisco Alvarez, the No. 4-ranked MLB prospect by ESPN, will join the Mets for their series against the Braves.
Whiplash from watching change ups blow past himRuf to the IL with a neck strain. Wink-wink.
Mets call up top prospect Alvarez for MLB debut
Francisco Alvarez, the No. 4-ranked MLB prospect by ESPN, will join the Mets for their series against the Braves.
I’ve used this comparison before for all sports ….DeGrom needs to pull a Brodeur …
6 times Brodeur gave up 5 goals in the playoffs. The next game he was 6-0 with a 0.33 GAA. Including game 7 shutout in the 2003 finals (yes I bring it up all the time cause I was there !!)
DeGrom needs be vintage DeGrom after the A’s stinker.
6 times Brodeur gave up 5 goals in the playoffs. The next game he was 6-0 with a 0.33 GAA. Including game 7 shutout in the 2003 finals (yes I bring it up all the time cause I was there !!)
DeGrom needs be vintage DeGrom after the A’s stinker.
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Injuries & Moves: Mets agree to flurry of Minor League deals
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If so- sorry but first game against them next year- someone getting hit.
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It was Keller. The Prick. I sincerely hope very badly Marte is back for the playoffs. Would love to see him vs Nats as a tune up for the playoffs but it doesn’t look good for the regular season.
As a follow-up to the convo on hitters working counts, I offer this statement from Buck Showalter, as quoted by Ron Darling.
Buck: "You gotta hit to walk. You can't walk to hit."
Buck: "You gotta hit to walk. You can't walk to hit."
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