You want to use your best pitchers in a blowout? They won't be able to pitch in a close game then. This makes absolutely no sense. We don't have an infinite supply of great RPs in the stable.
OT: Official 2022 NY Mets Season And Post Season Thread
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No, but that does mean throw crap out either. You know it's a problem when a certain pitcher enters the game and everyone holds their breath. Stop giving guys a long leash to hang themselves. That's not helping them.
A lot of these guys don't fear losing their spot in the pen and that keeps them complacent.
If your point is that Buck stayed too long with Medina, that is a fair point for debate.
But your last sentence is a total headscratcher. Medina has shuttled back and forth to Syracuse three times in less then half a season. As has the other guys in the back of the pen (Nogosek, Reed, Lopez). If you want to knock them for being less than MLB quality, fine. But I really don't think you have to worry about them being complacent.
Terrific Mets win! Love when we pound teams. Hate the Marlins as they always give us fits and I ll never forget the Glavine meltdown disaster in 07.
Happy to hear Escobar should play tomorrow but very sad that Megill won’t be back for awhile. Really like Megill and losing him puts lot more pressure On starting staff and more to see of Peterson and Trevor Williams in consistent starting roles - which I’m not looking forward to
Happy to hear Escobar should play tomorrow but very sad that Megill won’t be back for awhile. Really like Megill and losing him puts lot more pressure On starting staff and more to see of Peterson and Trevor Williams in consistent starting roles - which I’m not looking forward to
I didn’t see the pitches but pitchers don’t use breaking balls to hit batters.
Baseball can't move players like other sports. Some guys are complacent because of different factors. If you know the team is stuck with recycling certain players due to the situation, it does give certain guys a sense of confidence from being released.
Guarantee contracts are a problem in MLB. I remember when I was invited to Cincinnati Bengals camp because their starting safety left as a free agent, but the truth was the backup started to outplay him. I, along with another free agent, come in to compete for the backup position. Out of nowhere, Cincy signed Louis Oliver of the Miami Dolphins and another free agent. they released all of us before camp. Management thought all three of us assumed at least 2 of us would make the squad and didn't work as hard. I learned that from the coach during my exit talk. I was shocked because I valued the opportunity. I know in football you can be here one minute and gone the next. That is not the case in baseball.
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Thanks to Uncle Steve, I don't think guaranteed contracts are a problem with the Mets anymore. He will eat big dollar contracts if it is the right baseball decision. Robinson Cano is the best example.
I think the problem, if you want to call it that, is the option rules. Take Chasen Shreve for instance. He has been relatively ineffective, but the Mets can't send him down because they would surely lose him if they did. (Lefty relievers with a pulse are always in demand.) Whereas the guys with options get shuttled back and forth.
Good to get this win. Lets face it, in large part the division is gonna come down to the 33 or so games we have remaining against the Marlins and Braves. Play well in those and we're sure to be in good shape.
I don't think it's an odd argument. I pointed out the difference between baseball and other sports. In other sports, the threat of being released gets people to pick up their play. In baseball, we see poor middle relief every year, yet seldom is anything done. Moving between the minors and the big leagues is not enough to elicit a response. If you cut one or two players, I bet it would send a message to the others. No way should a player like Shreve still be on the roster, and that's my point.
Yes I read that and still think it's odd. On a football roster you have guys that aren't good either. There's just not enough talent to go around. It's not a complacency thing. The Mets also didn't do a great job to bolster the pen from the outside enough is why we're seeing the current middle relief train.
The other side of the equation in football is that if a team is deciding on a backup player in their 3rd year right before going to 2nd contract and is making let's say, 700-900k or a kid going into his 2nd year, maybe just a PS player the year before and is making 550k - they will go with the lessor player if it is not a starting role just to 1) save that couple hundred 2) not have to deal with the new contract.
So, a player busting his ass for 2 years and doing well enough to earn a backup spot, can also easily lose his position to a lessor player because of contracts and a couple hundred grand.
As for the Met's- I don't see anyone complacent. Even if a couple of guys are not performing- it isn't because of being complacent.
BTW- on offense- I think we have just the opposite in such a good way. Last 30 days and last 15 days, we have guys hitting at insane levels. Even if we want to still get on Lindor- his run production in the last 30 days is insane. Pete would be on historic rates and even guys like Escobar, JD Canha, Marte, McNeil and LG. Off the charts.
And one thing for sure- when Max and deGrom walk into the clubhouse, uniform on, ready to go- there is zero chance anyone takes anything for granted.
BTW- on offense- I think we have just the opposite in such a good way. Last 30 days and last 15 days, we have guys hitting at insane levels. Even if we want to still get on Lindor- his run production in the last 30 days is insane. Pete would be on historic rates and even guys like Escobar, JD Canha, Marte, McNeil and LG. Off the charts.
And one thing for sure- when Max and deGrom walk into the clubhouse, uniform on, ready to go- there is zero chance anyone takes anything for granted.
It tells everyone that there are too many teams in MLB. Talent is spread thin and it impacts the quality of each team.
Mets win !!!
Face an absolute STUD tomorrow
Work em , scratch out a few bad get another Gem from Bassitt
Face an absolute STUD tomorrow
Work em , scratch out a few bad get another Gem from Bassitt
LGM ! Amazing how Berti kills us !
Nice win!
Walker was terrific and good to see Lindor hitting again!
Caught a break with 3rd strike call on Jazz.
Hopefully we get lucky and Alcantara has an off game tomorrow
Loved the wind today and the debris flying around the field.
Nice win!
Walker was terrific and good to see Lindor hitting again!
Caught a break with 3rd strike call on Jazz.
Hopefully we get lucky and Alcantara has an off game tomorrow
Loved the wind today and the debris flying around the field.
LFGM!!
Imagine winning 14 in a row and you still find yourself 6.5 out. Anyways let's keep this train rolling.
Imagine winning 14 in a row and you still find yourself 6.5 out. Anyways let's keep this train rolling.
Was going there myself…
Even with their crazy run, Atl is now 8 games over.500
Not bad and most years we would love that at this point ourselves…
We are currently 21 games over .500
We aren’t even full strength.
GM deserves a ton of credit for not only who he brought in but also who they let walk.
I would think it seems that not only him but I’m starting to believe Stroman may have been a part of the mindset of the team.
and though Thor started strong this year, he is no longer a $20 mil pitcher
I’m not sure about Conforto as everyone always said he was a great guy and good with teammates- Canha May not have his power but certainly seems like a kind of guy on championship teams and obviously, Conforto is injured so would have been a waste of 20 mil
And Villar- he had a good season last year but we wouldn’t have discover LG could be this good if he was still here.
From what I heard , Stroman and Noah were clubhouse drama figures. I’m sure Baez was also. Talking about Baez, it’s been awhile but last time I looked PCA’s stats were good.
The Baez deal was another awful one. Trading away a really nice CF prospect for a 2 months rental when we were going nowhere. Thankfully they weren't dumb enough to re-sign him. Now PCA has turned into a top 100 guy.
I didn't mind Noah doing what he did signing with Anaheim but after he pushed his start back and wouldn't talk to the NY media we really see what he was. A little bitch boy.
Still letting Wheeler walk because the pons were so cheap is the one that stings the most. Philly would really be nowhere without him past two seasons.
I didn't mind Noah doing what he did signing with Anaheim but after he pushed his start back and wouldn't talk to the NY media we really see what he was. A little bitch boy.
Still letting Wheeler walk because the pons were so cheap is the one that stings the most. Philly would really be nowhere without him past two seasons.
Billy Eppler got here in 11/21 and did a damm good job cleaning up the mess made by BVW and Jared Porter. He who acquired the new players and let Baez, Thor, Stroman (I was wrong) walk to make this team better. Doesn’t hurt to have Cohen’s backup but it’s a relief not to have the Wilpons drag this org down anymore.
At the time the Baez trade was made, Mets were in first place by four games. He was a very productive Met as his .886 OPS will attest. This could have been remembered as the move that put the Mets over the top to a world championship. Only problem was that the rest of the team didn't cooperate.
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