OT: Official 2022 NY Mets Season And Post Season Thread
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Your jinx failed tonight. All around crap performance tonight. It happens. F'in Braves.
No reverse jinx intended. Obvious as can be what was coming at time of post.
I do not think the Braves current pace is sustainable. In fact I am quite certain it is not sustainable, as no team has ever won 112 in a row.
Just keep winning series and we'll be fine. There'll be time enough for counting when the dealing's done.
Just keep winning series and we'll be fine. There'll be time enough for counting when the dealing's done.
I mean they were facing a cy young winner. Braves will eventually have to play a winning team
It's why I cautioned not to look at the standings until around July 4. Gives a more clear picture. Yes the Mets had a big lead but it's because it was still a small sample and need teams to get around the schedule a bit. Not you personally but if you thought the Mets were going to have a 10 game lead all year with no one challenging them then your heads are in the clouds.
Not Mets related but noteworthy nonetheless:
In the second inning of yesterday's Houston-Texas game, Houston pitcher Luis Garcia threw an immaculate inning. Nine pitches, nine strikes, three K's. Rare, but it happens occasionally.
Then in the seventh, Houston reliever Phil Maton threw another immaculate inning! Against the same three batters!
What are the odds?
In the second inning of yesterday's Houston-Texas game, Houston pitcher Luis Garcia threw an immaculate inning. Nine pitches, nine strikes, three K's. Rare, but it happens occasionally.
Then in the seventh, Houston reliever Phil Maton threw another immaculate inning! Against the same three batters!
What are the odds?
I am guessing that in most seasons there are more no hitters than immaculate innings.
I don't think anyone thought the Mets would run and hide from Atlanta... at least not without deGrom and Scherzer. Atlanta is hot with a crazy winning streak, and they are still looking up. What that tells me is the Mets have been consistent, and that's without their two big guns. Also, plenty of experts are not sold on Atlanta because the current run has been against sub-.500 teams. Atlanta has a sub-.500 against teams with a winning record. It's been close to a month since the Braves have played a team with a winning record. That was against Milwaukee, who took 2 of 3 from them. The previous series was San Diego, who also took 2 of 3 games. Here are the terrible teams Atlanta has faced during this run:
Arizona, Colorado, Oakland, Pittsburgh, and Washington
After Washington, the Braves face the Cubs. Then the schedule picks up against San Fran (4 games), followed by the Dodgers for 3 games. Over the next month, the Braves will have 14 games against winning teams (S.F., L.A., St. Louis, and the Mets), which will tell us a lot about Atlanta. Are they for real or not?
There are a couple of differences between last year and this year.
1) Atlanta has avoided multiple significant injuries simultaneously, while the Mets haven't been as lucky.
2) Atlanta had to go on a crazy run to get back into the race.
3) The Mets are a much different (and better) team than last year.
4) The Mets have a winning record against plus .500 teams while Atlanta doesn't.
5) The Mets survived the most difficult of their season and came out with a .500 record.
6) The Mets' record against sub-.500 teams is excellent, and they face many of those teams in the 2nd half.
June 15 Mets Farm Report (Top 25 prospects per MLB Pipeline)
AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)
1) Francisco Alvarez C (AA Binghamton) – G1 0/2, BB G2 3/5, 2B(15), R, 2 RBI, K, .279/.899
2) Brett Baty 3B/OF (AA Binghamton) – G1 DNP G2 2/5, 2B(13), 2 R, K, .277/.808
3) Ronny Mauricio SS (AA Binghamton) – G1 0/3, 2 K G2 1/5, HR(10), R, 2 RBI, 3 K, .249/.754
4) Mark Vientos 3B/1B/OF (AAA Syracuse) – 2/5, HR(11), R, RBI, 3 K, .260/.885
5) Matt Allan RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured – Elbow expected back 2023
6) Alex Ramirez OF (Low A St. Lucie) – 0/4, K, .310/.842
7) Khalil Lee OF (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
8) Nick Plummer OF (NY Mets) – 0/1, K, .174/.686
9) Dominic Hamel RHP (Low A St. Lucie) – 6.2 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 4 BB, 7 K, 0 HR, 4.25, W(4-1)
10) Joel Diaz RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
11) Calvin Ziegler RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
12) Jose Butto RHP (AA Binghamton) – 6.0 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 5 K, 1 HR, 3.40, W(4-4)
13) Simon Juan OF (Rookie DSL Mets) - DNP
14) Jaylen Palmer 3B/OF (High A Brooklyn) – G1 1/3, R, BB, K G2 1/2, 2 R, BB, K, .176/.608
15) Carlos Cortes 2B/OF (AA Binghamton) – G1 0/3 G2 2/3, HR(2), 2 R, 3 RBI, BB, .224/.665
16) Junior Santos RHP (High A Brooklyn) – 5.2 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 4 BB, 4 K, 0 HR, 4.04, W(3-5)
17) Eric Orze RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
18) Robert Dominguez RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - Injured – Arm surgery expected back 2023
19) JT Schwartz 1B (High A Brooklyn) – G1 DNP G2 1/3, .265/.716
20) Hayden Senger C (AA Binghamton) – G1 0/3, 2 K G2 DNP
21) Mike Vasil RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
22) Jake Mangum OF (AAA Syracuse) – 1/5, .333/.798
23) Jordany Ventura RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
24) Josh Walker LHP (AAA Syracuse) - Injured Expected back 2022
25) Christian Scott RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)
1) Francisco Alvarez C (AA Binghamton) – G1 0/2, BB G2 3/5, 2B(15), R, 2 RBI, K, .279/.899
2) Brett Baty 3B/OF (AA Binghamton) – G1 DNP G2 2/5, 2B(13), 2 R, K, .277/.808
3) Ronny Mauricio SS (AA Binghamton) – G1 0/3, 2 K G2 1/5, HR(10), R, 2 RBI, 3 K, .249/.754
4) Mark Vientos 3B/1B/OF (AAA Syracuse) – 2/5, HR(11), R, RBI, 3 K, .260/.885
5) Matt Allan RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured – Elbow expected back 2023
6) Alex Ramirez OF (Low A St. Lucie) – 0/4, K, .310/.842
7) Khalil Lee OF (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
8) Nick Plummer OF (NY Mets) – 0/1, K, .174/.686
9) Dominic Hamel RHP (Low A St. Lucie) – 6.2 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 4 BB, 7 K, 0 HR, 4.25, W(4-1)
10) Joel Diaz RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
11) Calvin Ziegler RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
12) Jose Butto RHP (AA Binghamton) – 6.0 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 5 K, 1 HR, 3.40, W(4-4)
13) Simon Juan OF (Rookie DSL Mets) - DNP
14) Jaylen Palmer 3B/OF (High A Brooklyn) – G1 1/3, R, BB, K G2 1/2, 2 R, BB, K, .176/.608
15) Carlos Cortes 2B/OF (AA Binghamton) – G1 0/3 G2 2/3, HR(2), 2 R, 3 RBI, BB, .224/.665
16) Junior Santos RHP (High A Brooklyn) – 5.2 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 4 BB, 4 K, 0 HR, 4.04, W(3-5)
17) Eric Orze RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
18) Robert Dominguez RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - Injured – Arm surgery expected back 2023
19) JT Schwartz 1B (High A Brooklyn) – G1 DNP G2 1/3, .265/.716
20) Hayden Senger C (AA Binghamton) – G1 0/3, 2 K G2 DNP
21) Mike Vasil RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
22) Jake Mangum OF (AAA Syracuse) – 1/5, .333/.798
23) Jordany Ventura RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
24) Josh Walker LHP (AAA Syracuse) - Injured Expected back 2022
25) Christian Scott RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
Assuming Marte is OK, I would think that the Mets would make a roster move soon to send down either Lee or Plummer. No point is rostering them both as their skill sets are virtually identical.
Who comes up? Smith, Vientos, or a trade acquisition?
Who comes up? Smith, Vientos, or a trade acquisition?
I did that in Little League baseball once. It was my Polk HS 4 TDs moment. When I moved up to the "major league" division 2 years later, my neck got sore from watching all the balls being hit over the fences. 🤣
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I guess I should pay more attention!
So, the Mets are again carrying 14 pitchers, which as of June 20 will be illegal. Unless they extend that deadline again.
Not that I know. The other thing to keep an eye on is you can only option players down 5 times before they are subject to waivers. I think Medina and Nogosek are close to that which is why they brought Lopez up this time and not Medina.
I would bring back Smith to see if has regained his swing. I would probably wait until after the AS break to give Vientos more at bats and experience at AAA. Cannot see the point of bringing him up to sit.
I think they have gone 5-6 since the west road trip started
that is not blowing a lead, it is a period of .500 or so, just a mediocre stretch
Under normal circumstances a second place team might have picked up 3 games or so on the Mets.
Couldn’t figure the Braves winning everything right now. Each of the six Met
Losses cost them a game lead
Couldn't swear to it, but I think this is the first time all year that the catcher hasn't batted ninth.
While I certainly think we could do with another big middle of the lineup bat, I don't know if I believe that a 22 year old kid like Vientos would be the answer as a debuting major leaguer.
I was more referring to not being able to put away the lefty at 0-2. He just doesnt have the type of southpaw stuff that is nasty on lefties.
Why does the team need you if you're a lefty and can't even get them out?
That is true. He is not the classic lefty specialist. But then, the three batter rule has pretty much legislated the classic lefty specialist out of the game.
BTW, if the Mets had been shifting on the AB is question, it's an easy DP and we're out of the inning tied at 1-1. I point that out because we all remember the times when the shift backfires. We don't remember when not shifting backfires. I submit that the latter instances are the more frequent.
Now these are the Mets ive gotten to know this season. Coming back when down.
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Nice comeback down 4-1 and a little somber after Megill left game injured
Max to pitch rehab Tuesday , survive and advance
Nice comeback down 4-1 and a little somber after Megill left game injured
Max to pitch rehab Tuesday , survive and advance
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