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OT: Official 2022 NY Mets Season And Post Season Thread

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Let's talk draft. It's about 12 days away and we have two picks in the top 15. I know that more than football or basketball it's a real crapshoot, but I hope we can find and develop a power hitting corner OF. Canha and Marte are both 33 I believe and Nimmo is an impending free agent. Also a quality starting pitcher as our rotation isn't exactly brimming with youth either.



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RUforJERSEY said:
Let's talk draft. It's about 12 days away and we have two picks in the top 15. I know that more than football or basketball it's a real crapshoot, but I hope we can find and develop a power hitting corner OF. Canha and Marte are both 33 I believe and Nimmo is an impending free agent. Also a quality starting pitcher as our rotation isn't exactly brimming with youth either.



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That's not how the MLB draft works. You rarely get players that help in an immediate time frame. When our selections from this year make their debuts the team will look drastically different. You should go best available no matter what the position but that gets tricky because of bonus pool money. You might want an easy sign below slot early and then gamble later. We did a poor job of that last year but Mets have been a good drafting team the last 10 years or so.

I'm hoping for a HS OF bat like Crawford (son of former MLBer Carl Crawford) and Dylan Lesko. Lesko was the top SP in the draft before he had to get TJ. He had it in April so could be back second half of next year and he could move quick.
 
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I would prefer a pitcher and an OF with power. I think the infield is set at the SS and 1B for a while and aside from Alvarez our current top prospects are infielders, Baty, Mauricio Vientos.
 
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Mets have a bad minor league system and need to stock it, but that happens over time and not in one draft, and not only via the draft. It's been clear to me that the front office has been authorized by Steve Cohen to get and even overpay for players so long as it doesn't cost draft picks. He's ready to pay for older players (like Canha an Marte), get current results, and eat their contracts in the future if need be (like he did with Cano), so long as the organization is fixing the problem going forward by maintaining draft picks, harvesting the international market, and stocking the system. If you have the money and a bad minor league system, it's not a bad approach, particularly from a fan's point of view.
 
cicero grimes said:
I would prefer a pitcher and an OF with power. I think the infield is set at the SS and 1B for a while and aside from Alvarez our current top prospects are infielders, Baty, Mauricio Vientos.
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which makes it odd that one mock draft I've seen had us taking 2 shortstops. Of course a SS could always make a switch to 2B. Also worth noting is that we have the 3rd most bonus pool money to play with. Which helps because unlike last year if we draft a player who we then fail to sign we would not get a compensatory pick again.
 
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RUforJERSEY said:
which makes it odd that one mock draft I've seen had us taking 2 shortstops. Of course a SS could always make a switch to 2B. Also worth noting is that we have the 3rd most bonus pool money to play with. Which helps because unlike last year if we draft a player who we then fail to sign we would not get a compensatory pick again.
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It kind of leads me to ask- as an organization, do you draft for need or do you draft best player on the board.
I would almost think it has to be for the best players as even the best, take 3+ years to make it to the show. And in 3 years, there is no way to know what your need is.
 
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It kind of leads me to ask- as an organization, do you draft for need or do you draft best player on the board.
I would almost think it has to be for the best players as even the best, take 3+ years to make it to the show. And in 3 years, there is no way to know what your need is.
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I guess there could be an argument made for both. If you draft players who are top prospects but then have their short term path to the majors blocked then they could become valuable as trade chips. And with the universal DH a bat can always be played even if he has no clear position open to him.
 
The mocks have been all over for us. Basically 10 different players. Williams, Susac, Jung, Crawford, Lesko, Snelling, and so on. If they have a deal with someone it might start to leak soon otherwise it will be BPA on their board.
 
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Well a rainout wouldn't be the worst thing because that would almost certainly push his next start out to during the Atlanta series. Of course they could always give him an extra day even if tonight's game is played. Walker is already gonna miss pitching in that series and I already cringe at the idea of seeing something like Trevor Williams vs. Max Fried.
 
RUforJERSEY said:
Well a rainout wouldn't be the worst thing because that would almost certainly push his next start out to during the Atlanta series. Of course they could always give him an extra day even if tonight's game is played. Walker is already gonna miss pitching in that series and I already cringe at the idea of seeing something like Trevor Williams vs. Max Fried.
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If there is any chance of a rain delay tonight, I would not be surprised if Max gets pushed back to tomorrow. No chance that Buck and Hefner would bring him back after a delay. Besides, we may need a starter for tomorrow night anyway, if neither Peterson nor Bassitt are back from their respective absences.
 
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If there is any chance of a rain delay tonight, I would not be surprised if Max gets pushed back to tomorrow. No chance that Buck and Hefner would bring him back after a delay. Besides, we may need a starter for tomorrow night anyway, if neither Peterson nor Bassitt are back from their respective absences.
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Peterson is supposed to start tomorrow
 
Zak57 said:
The mocks have been all over for us. Basically 10 different players. Williams, Susac, Jung, Crawford, Lesko, Snelling, and so on. If they have a deal with someone it might start to leak soon otherwise it will be BPA on their board.
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@Zac57 - you're pretty good with this stuff.

I read somewhere that the pool of money the Mets have this year is amongst the most of any team. I know it somehow gives them some additional flexibility in signing guys but don't understand all the details.

What's the advantage the Mets have this year and why? Is it because they didn't sign Kumar?
 
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@Zac57 - you're pretty good with this stuff.

I read somewhere that the pool of money the Mets have this year is amongst the most of any team. I know it somehow gives them some additional flexibility in signing guys but don't understand all the details.

What's the advantage the Mets have this year and why? Is it because they didn't sign Kumar?
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Yes the pool is larger this year because we have 2 first round picks. One of those first rounders is the compensation from not signing Rocker last year. We also received compensation for Syndegaard signing with the Angels because we QO'd him. Unfortunately we could have had more but since Conforto didn't sign he lost that pick.

The main advantage to this is the Mets can go underslot for some of the picks to save money. They could then use that money throughout the later rounds to take high upside high school players and sign them away from their college commitments. The scouts usually have a very good idea of what it will take to get the kids into the system rather than go to college.

We didn't draft any of those types of players last year which was a huge mistake because we could have used that Rocker money and handed it to at least one high school player who might have signed. If you want to see this in action check out our 2019 draft in which we were able to sign Matt Allan after he fell to the 3rd because he was asking for decent money. He would have been a first rounder without the rumors at the time he was going to ask for way over slot. It's one of the very few things BVW has done well even though Allan has been hurt.
 
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Besides middle relief, the Mets need a consistent DH and a catcher who can bat his weight.
 
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What is JD's role again?

Is McCann that much better than Nido?
FYI: both stink.
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JD's role. To be a big trash filled hole in the lineup. Seriously. He shouldn't be a part of any platoon. For real question.. ...how are you in the major leagues when you and just about everyone in the ballpark knows its coming yet you still can't connect with any fastballs. It's said that being able to hit the heater gets you to the big leagues but it's the ability to hit off-speed that will keep you there.
 
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Yes the pool is larger this year because we have 2 first round picks. One of those first rounders is the compensation from not signing Rocker last year. We also received compensation for Syndegaard signing with the Angels because we QO'd him. Unfortunately we could have had more but since Conforto didn't sign he lost that pick.

The main advantage to this is the Mets can go underslot for some of the picks to save money. They could then use that money throughout the later rounds to take high upside high school players and sign them away from their college commitments. The scouts usually have a very good idea of what it will take to get the kids into the system rather than go to college.

We didn't draft any of those types of players last year which was a huge mistake because we could have used that Rocker money and handed it to at least one high school player who might have signed. If you want to see this in action check out our 2019 draft in which we were able to sign Matt Allan after he fell to the 3rd because he was asking for decent money. He would have been a first rounder without the rumors at the time he was going to ask for way over slot. It's one of the very few things BVW has done well even though Allan has been hurt.
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I mostly agree but have a couple of comments:

1) My problem with the Rocker draft was that the Mets didn't purchase "insurance". Here's what I mean. Many teams routinely identify HS seniors whom they believe are 3rd-ish round talents, but who have already announced their intention to go to college. Therefore they do not get selected. So you draft a guy like that in the later rounds, solely as insurance against failing to sign one of your top picks. If that happens, you take the money you've saved, and throw it at your college-bound pick to try to get him to change his mind. This is a little different from the scenario you described.

2) The Matt Allan situation, which I agree was a BVW masterstroke, was an example of quality over quantity. While I don't recall the specifics, I believe Allan basically told the world that he wanted to be drafted in the Top X (Top Ten?) or he was going to college. When he wasn't drafted where he wanted, the teams that picked later were unwilling to call his bluff. So he slid to the third round. BVW drafted him and found enough overslot money to satisfy him. How did BVW do that? By scrimping on picks 4 - 10. He drafted college seniors with no negotiating leverage and offered them peanuts, knowing they had to take it or leave it. Basically sacrificing the rest of the draft to get Allan. Also they did get Jake Mangum who has a shot at a MLB utility role.
 
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The bottom quarter of the lineup is starting to be a problem. Too often, they are coming up with men in scoring positions but can't deliver. They have to be responsible for at least the difference in 3 or 4 losses.
 
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Nimmo CF
Marte RF
Lindor SS
Pete 1B
Bell DH
McNeil 2B
Contreras C
Escobar 3B
Canha LF

That is a lineup !! The lineup also has the LRLR teams want , plus there are 3 switch hitters
 
nutfromSEC117 said:
Nimmo CF
Marte RF
Lindor SS
Pete 1B
Bell DH
McNeil 2B
Contreras C
Escobar 3B
Canha LF

That is a lineup !! The lineup also has the LRLR teams want , plus there are 3 switch hitters
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Fair enough, but who are you willing to give up to get Bell or Contreras? Don't say Dom Smith or JD Davis. That is not happening.

Remember with the expanded playoffs, most teams will still be in the wild card race (at minimum) by August 2. There will be more buyers and fewer sellers. Seller's market.
 
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Nimmo CF
Marte RF
Lindor SS
Pete 1B
Bell DH
McNeil 2B
Contreras C
Escobar 3B
Canha LF

That is a lineup !! The lineup also has the LRLR teams want , plus there are 3 switch hitters
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Contreras is a huge no from me- he has a bat but they say he is lazy, loses concentration in games etc...With our team, we need a catcher who can handle the pitching staff. Go get Bell- would love that but with Alveraz in the wings- not giving up anything for Contreras.
 
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Nimmo CF
Marte RF
Lindor SS
Pete 1B
Bell DH
McNeil 2B
Contreras C
Escobar 3B
Canha LF

That is a lineup !! The lineup also has the LRLR teams want , plus there are 3 switch hitters
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Will Contreras impact Alvarez if he was to remain with the Mets beyond?
 
Mets 0-7 RISP.

Glass half empty: That sucks.

Glass half full: They're getting the traffic. Keep it up and the clutch hits will come.

(Hey, I'm trying my best.)
 
Pete chases
Lindor chases
Everyone chases when going bad , EXCEPT
JD who just keeps on missing pitches right down middle.
 
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