I think you guys are way too focused on expected wins vs losses..
What we were expected to be was a much better team. Better QB play, more depth and an experience d coming back.
Have we truly looked much better than last year?
The shine is off Coach Schiano
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I think you guys are way too focused on expected wins vs losses..
What we were expected to be was a much better team. Better QB play, more depth and an experience d coming back.
Have we truly looked much better than last year?
If we were fully healthy, I think we’d have beaten Nebraska. Today’s game would’ve been closer, but our OL and DL just don’t seem good enough to beat teams with good line players.
Now, with Longerbeam, Rogers, Dixon, Lewis, Toure, Powell, Felter, Brown, and Benjamin all hurt… we are gonna struggle. The D is more affected than the O. But the OL isn’t looking all too great this season and that’s really hurting us.
It's amazing how all these other coaches can come into the league and light it up in year 1 or 2 or at least show major improvement but we have to just love what we get building up to year five playing like this. Painful..
Again, 8+wins was possible if we were fully healthy. Possible, not expected. People always forget that the other teams are all also working really hard to win 8+ games and not everyone can win.
We are going to have to have good luck to win 8+ games in pretty much any season forever unless we somehow manage to out-recruit teams enough to elevate RU to elite status in the Big Ten. We aren’t close to elite yet and nobody should’ve expected us to be given where we started.
It's not what our record is.. 4-2 isn't bad. It's that we've sucked so much since the 2nd half of Va Tech that I think we're in serious trouble and we have played nowhere near expectations. To answer your question.. no. I think overall we have played worse. Can't even execute field goals anymore.
With a crap coach who thinks it’s 1949, yes. Never happen, not the “+” at least. Maybe they can get 8 if they find a loophole to only play a 6 game conference schedule
If this Pain continues into Year 6 hopefully the new AD will make the right decision.
Schiano is exactly who he has always been:
1) Good/great defense
2) Good special teams - this year not withstanding.
3) Strong leadership.
4) Strong running ame.
5) Average to below average QB play.
6) Stop playing aggressively after having a lead in the mid 3rd quarter of a game
7) Have at least 1-2 games per year where the team doesn't show up or is unprepared for the opponent. This was masked in the past few years in the blowout losses against Michigan, OSU or PSU, but this year it is becoming apparent.
All this adds up to above average coach. He will likely never coach a team to any greatness and his teams will not be the laughing stock of football. My guess it that under Schiano, we will always be a 6-7 win team.
1) Good/great defense
2) Good special teams - this year not withstanding.
3) Strong leadership.
4) Strong running ame.
5) Average to below average QB play.
6) Stop playing aggressively after having a lead in the mid 3rd quarter of a game
7) Have at least 1-2 games per year where the team doesn't show up or is unprepared for the opponent. This was masked in the past few years in the blowout losses against Michigan, OSU or PSU, but this year it is becoming apparent.
All this adds up to above average coach. He will likely never coach a team to any greatness and his teams will not be the laughing stock of football. My guess it that under Schiano, we will always be a 6-7 win team.
There’s no decision to make. Schiano is owed too much for too long to be on any hot seat for at least 5 more years. And it’s the fan base’s fault for being duped by 2.0
into believing in him….and Hobbs gave the fans what they wanted
Schiano is here to stay for many years to come…many years…unless Tennessee comes after him again… 😉
Worse now is Fran Brown winning at Sadecuse. In his very first year. With a staff that is less experienced than ours.
There was no one else available. Love or hate the guy, he saved the program from Ash and we’re still in the B1G because of him. Hobbs acted like a fool with our football team and his exit was very much deserved.
Whether or not Schiano is the guy to get us to have winning seasons consistently, only time will tell.
Let’s be real about this! Rutgers has the worst support of any school in sports by their own state except Northerstern which is private. NJ people are self loathing would rather root for out of state teams than support their own. I get it that every time you think RU is turning the corner they get a snack down as a constant reminder of futility! The fans that support Rutgers are great! They don’t get alot for their loyalty. Unfortunately there are just not enough of them!
6-7 wins is the ceiling for Greggie. Think about next year when most of this “talent” exhausts its eligibility. We’ve now seen what those waiting in the wings are capable of and it’s scary.
I’ll say it again- 5 years in and he still hasn’t recruited and/or developed or brought in transfers that add up to Big10 quality lines on either side of the ball. We literally just got pushed all over the field by mediocre Nebraska and Wisconsin. And think back to Howard and Akron where we weren’t even close to dominating in the trenches.
While this was supposed to be the “dream season”, the reality is that the future looks bleak.
Think about this, “knowledgeable” people were saying 10-2 was realistic this year. Now, we’ll be lucky to get to 8 wins. And it’s not even about the losses themselves, it’s the way we’ve lost. We were dominated. Even in our wins against the patsies we were not far superior in the trenches. That should’ve been a warning sign for all of us.
McCord makes $750 thousand a year to sling it for Syracuse. Our QB gets a bus pass.
We are all experts on this board 😝. 10 wins was not the baseline. It was possible if everything went right. The hype train got derailed when all of our best D players went down and now the savior QB is falling down. I do expect us to finish with 8 wins as a baseline. I will hold GS to that. Anything less is regression.
I wasn’t even referring to prognosticators on this board. There were plenty of talking heads who said we were a dark horse for the playoff, lol.
Another thing that is highly concerning that has been a common theme with this program- why is Rutgers’ QB always the worst one on the field, every game? Every BIG program has been able to bring in highly competent QB’s and we brought in Athan, who was being phased out at Minnesota. Wisky’s second string QB ran circles around our first teamer yesterday. And who do we have behind him? Someone we “stole” from Old Dominion. This should concern all of us.
So does a bunch of others that are winning with hired guns. A very long list but sure you point out the one that it is not working at the moment.
Syracuse is the easiest and closest example. McCord and his dad spoke to Schiano and passed. He is now getting paid $750G to be there. It makes sense but our fans love to bash but refuse to help.
You didn't answer my question on Flood.
Wasn't your fave Coach Prime also blown out by Nebraska?
Yes...they are not as good as OSU, Cult or (historically) UM.
That doesn't mean we are playing Purdue every week.
If you had told people pre season we'd be 4-2 into UCLA they'd have said that sounded marvelous.
That is what happens to good teams in big boy conferences. They don't win every game. Strange, I know.
I will give the negatoids a point on injuries. They happen and we should be ready for them.
OTOH, we have been exceptionally snake bitten in terms of injuries.
Here is what I would say...I would accept injuries as a rationale to lose yesterday. I would not accept them versus UCLA or other bad teams. We should absolutely make a bowl game, and if we god forbid do not, then I would accept and understand the saber rattling over GS.
But what our fans do is jump the gun and declare the season over at 4-2...have to let things play out.
I would not call UW and VT a patsy. Would you?
One game doesn't negate the prior ones...that's the issue I have and I think that prior seasons have borne this out. We had WTF games (and TBH, losing to Wisconsin IMO isn't that caliber) and bounced right back.
Give me a GS season where the obituary was written in October...I'll give you a bowl game lol.
I must have missed the UW game.
Is the story now it doesn't count or that they're actually bad or what...I want to make sure I understand the narrative.
So 4-2 losing
5-1 winning
And it gets better...their one loss was against Stanford...who was blown out by Virginia Tech LOL
You whiffed. We have the money but Schiano spends on HIS priority positions, QB not among them. He’s terrible.
Come on dude. Which people were saying that?
Feel free to drag up a prediction thread, most said 7-9 from what I saw an that is still extremely possible.
BTW, "just 8" wins would get us our best bowl ever in all likelihood so I'm not sure the rationale to play it down. What is the right rubric for comparison here?
I don’t see a question about flood. Apologies but what am I answering??
And yes, prime got blown out.
You are saying we should be less worried about record and more worried about blowouts.
I know you are a fan of both Flood and Prime. Wasn't Flood, and now Prime, blown out kinda frequently?
I would say outside of the Urbans and Sabans of the world, most coaches are blown out at least 1-2x a year. There's a talent gap. OSU and UM under Harbaugh blew out basically everyone with regularity. Now when Saban left Bama finally looks more vulnerable. But overall, it's a pretty silly metric. Your record counts.
I mean bowl games look at your record, not who you played closely.
Most blowouts happen by ranked squads. Not mediocre squads playing with their 2nd string qb and rb, on the road, as an underdog.
The fact you seem to be defending yesterday’s performance is mind boggling. Schiano and the team shit the bed..why can’t you seem to agree.
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