Agree here. I want Athan here. Need an experienced backup. But I'm not ready to annoint him the starter just bc he showed up. I think both QBs have pros and cons. I don't think it's as clear cut as the podcast makes it out to be. May the best man win (and hopefully it's homegrown Gavin).
Yes we are a bit giddy because with better quarterback play, Rutgers is looking at a eight win or more season in 2024 in our opinion. It's no secret that quarterback play held back this team at times in 2023 and with an upgrade you're talking about a higher ceiling for this program.
Which L would flip to a W this year? Are we good enough to beat PSU, Mich or OSU? D gave up too many against MD to make a real argument. Maybe Wisc or Iowa? Those are not gimmies.
This season I don’t think it mattered as even at 7-5 and maybe 8-4 we still go to the Bronx.
Richard I agree wholeheartedly but I hope we can keep all the top 4 QB’s and watch the progression. When has RU had two guys similar but different ? We can not afford to have what happened several years ago with Noah Vedral. Had Noah been healthy our year could have been much better . Our 5-7 maybe instead 7-5? I really want to see what some of this WR group can do… Brock is pretty decent as a coach . Greg will use whomever is the best…. He has no choice but to do that.
Really? Wimsatt is what prevented RU from winning the games they lost? So they would have beaten who with Simon at Qb? so let me ask you this would the running game or pass protection have been the same with Simon at Qb? Not having a QB that can make the throws needed when called upon held the team back yes. Are you guys saying that the new guy is the quarterback that can make the throws a team needs to win the game? What are you basing that assessment on?
If that was the case there wouldn’t be a premium board.
Do we have every throw of AK or just his highlights? I posted his stats against the same B1G teams and he had a lower completion percentage, lower yards per attempt, and lower total rushing yards. AK’s only advantage was 4/4 TD/Int and GW was 4/5. GW did add a rushing TD.
This and I can see that as well when I watched him play. But what people need to understand is that more polished doesn't mean better. He can go out there and do everything mechanically right but make constantly make terrible decisions. Loses composure, lack of ball control. All of that polish and he put up identical stats to wimsatt with less of a threat to run. And say what you will but Minnesota has better receivers than RU this past year. Good conversation will be fun to watch it unfold.
How about this I attended & watched multiple practices & a scrimmage during this season that the mods were not permitted to attend so maybe I saw things firsthand that makes me more educated on the subject than you or Ritchie
They also thought we were 4-5 win team before the season, so how reliable are they?
What are you hoping to accomplish by taking personal shots at the mods?
When they inject personal bias into their content that sways the minds of people paying for their content bc they trust them it's a problem. Wouldn't have an issue with them if they didn't have an anti Gavin agenda which others pointed out. They could be more objective.
A 15% improvement (all things being equal) is noticeable. All things are never equal though; did the QB at Minny benefit from a strong running game and defense, like at RU? I don't know. Who played the more difficult schedule? I'm guessing Gavin at RU had the more difficult schedule. Gavin's not "terrible," and I have seen some improvement, but to take the next step in the P2 they obviously need better QB play, no matter who's taking the snaps.
Personal bias?😂😂😂
I wasn't the one that started this thread so other people are thinking it too.
Taking a “shots” at someone isn’t criticism
Where did I say anything personal? I took their own words from August. Didn't call them a single name when I've been called all kinds of names here by various posters.
Let’s hope so, but it seems he wasn’t going to be a starter anymore and he may have come here because he didn’t have other options
What you said was an opinion which is and should be allowed. You didn’t criticize the site manager . I think Richard and Mike ( do a very good job in info ) got too excited by this get. People forget there is not one of Rutgers fans who don’t want the best for the program. The reality is Greg will have a competition if only to challenge Gavin and all the other roster QB’s in 2024. What bothers me is the reaction by several posters who misinterpret criticism and outright bashing as being equal or acceptable. Instead of finding some positives for GW and the season we pray to get rid of him and crown this next guy the savior… What happens if Ajani stays and wins the job? Now that’s even better. Amazing that this is not the first , 2nd , 3 rd time we have blamed the incumbent QB at Rutgers.
Rich,
Let us guess, you’re crystal ball had Monangai as the B1G’s leading rusher in your season prediction?
You had to go to the personal attacks. Good lord. And I'll own being a homer. I enjoy going to Rutgers games. Wouldn't have it any other way. We have too many self loathing miserable fans. It is what it is.
yup
It was a done deal from the moment he visited. They just had the announcement wait until after the bowl game.
I appreciate the compliments and yes I'm still arguing with the tech team about the issues there and hope to have that fixed for all experiencing those issues sooner rather than later.
Yet you never gave credit to GW for being a big part of the improved run game. I’ve been sharing a lot of facts today and will add one more.
We ran a different system in 23 as opposed to 22
Even with facts in front of you. Let me explain it better. We rushed for an additional 655 yds yoy. GW accounted for 436 yds of that increase. That’s 2/3’s of the increase rushing yds.
That’s correct because we did a heck of a lot more of QB designed runs….way more than the previous year and the designed runs were much more schematically different
