UPDATE: Source said Flood alerted RU admin in April

[RCTrooper]

I'm not sure how this works in college football towns but is it possible that NBPD could have given Flood a heads-up that NBPD brought in some players to find out about the fight or about the 3 (I repeat 3) armed break-ins that Johnson and Boggs were involved in?

 

[HeavenUniv.]

In any other college town, 100% yes.

 

[Tango Two]

I doubt Flood knew, because if he did, and he STILL was trying to get Barnwell eligible, then he is a foolish, foolish man.

 

[NickKnight 1]

I'm not sure how this works in college football towns but is it possible that NBPD could have given Flood a heads-up that NBPD brought in some players to find out about the fight or about the 3 (I repeat 3) armed break-ins that Johnson and Boggs were involved in?

How could he not know?

 

[fischy5000]

We chatted with some high level Nebraska supporters in Lincoln last season and he was telling us how years back a player was caught shoplifting from his store (on camera) and he went to the coach without even telling the police (and never did go to the police). This story is a little different but generally gets to the point of team staff getting the 411 before things get released.

 

[cRURah]

If he didn't know he had his head up his arse.

 

[NorthernKnight]

If he didn't know he had his head up his arse.

come on...you guys have no idea how this developed...none of us do.
What if Teejay Johnson got busted and rolled on everyone as part of an offered plea bargain?

we have no idea...

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

Lol at anyone who thinks NBPD would do anything other than arrest any Rutgers player they could at the first opportunity.

 

[RUfromSoCal?]

Lol at anyone who thinks NBPD would do anything other than arrest any Rutgers player they could at the first opportunity.

No doubt.

But did no one else have any idea? Did no one else even mention the possibility to a staff member? I hope that's the case, but hard to imagine.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

What part of the story am I missing that people here continue to call this a "fight?"

You and I bump in a bar and go outside, that is a "fight."

6 on 4 and unprovoked isn't a "fight."

 

[Caliknight]

Of course he didn't. No coach would name starters and give them all the reps knowing they are likely to be arrested.

New Brunswick ain't Tuscaloosa. You get in trouble for emailing a part time teacher at Rutgers.

 

[PaKnight]

If he didn't know he had his head up his arse.

Do you think that the police are do something that could alert potential suspects that they are under suspicion?

 

[WJLeggett]

Neither answer is a good look for Flood at this point.

 

[NorthernKnight]

What part of the story am I missing that people here continue to call this a "fight?"

You and I bump in a bar and go outside, that is a "fight."

6 on 4 and unprovoked isn't a "fight."

I missed the 6 on 4 and unprovoked...is that in an article?

 

[ruhudsonfan]

yes, in one of the articles from the source that is verboten here (don't tell anyone, but I didn't take the no click pledge..lol)

"Police further determined that Johnson was one of six individuals who surrounded a group of at least four other individuals, including a Rutgers student, and assaulted them during an incident on Delafield Street on April 25, 2015.

The six were charged today with aggravated assault, riot, and conspiracy to commit a riot. A 19-year-old male student suffered a broken jaw during the unprovoked attack."

only placing link so nobody here gets a talking too from nj.com

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...football_players_arrested.html#incart_m-rpt-2

 

[NorthernKnight]

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

Hard to believe 5 players and 1 former player decided to beat the shit out of at least 4 kids randomly.

This feels like It's somehow tied to the robberies and a teejay Johnson is the tie.

I'm wondering if some of these guys with they picked who they hung around with better.

 

[j10oreo]

If he did know and still tried to get these kids on the 2 deep, then wow....

 

[rucoe89]

I'm not sure how this works in college football towns but is it possible that NBPD could have given Flood a heads-up that NBPD brought in some players to find out about the fight or about the 3 (I repeat 3) armed break-ins that Johnson and Boggs were involved in?

I posted this scenario in zappa's thread, but may belong here. Perhaps someone that does criminal law or law enforcement can chime in, but I think Flood may have been given some information, but not a lot such that he could do nothing more than wait.

What if scenario (assume you are Flood here):

Investigator: Coach, the 4 kids on your current team and 2 former players are being investigated.
Coach: For what
IN: Armed robbery and assault
C: Definitive?
IN: At this point it is an investigation
C: Who? Could they be arrested?
IN: We cannot say who as we are investigating, but yes, they can be arrested.
C: When?
IN: Back in April.
C: If they are charges, when will that be?
IN: When our investigation is complete.
C: When will that be?
IN: We don't know yet.
C: Is it possible that the investigation does not turn up anything?
IN: Yes
C: What is likelihood of that?
IN: We cannot say. There is an investigation.
C: Is there a chance they could be cleared?
IN: Yes, if our investigation concludes as such.

It is August 1. You are Coach. What do you do for preparations and practice?

If Flood knew anything, it may be along the lines above. Today, we are all Thursday afternoon quarterbacks, but on August 1, we knew a lot less. Decide.

 

[RU848789]

No, because NBPD policy states that police officers are not allowed to initiate contact with the head football coach at Rutgers and if they violate that policy, they are subject to serious consequences ranging from reprimand to suspension to possibly even termination.

 

[rutgersdave]

I doubt Flood knew, because if he did, and he STILL was trying to get Barnwell eligible, then he is a foolish, foolish man.

Flood has to be the stupidest man on earth to not know since the fighting occurred in April. Those players or the whole team know how to keep a secret.

 

[cRURah]

Do you think that the police are do something that could alert potential suspects that they are under suspicion?

Yes. Suspects are usually interrogated before they are arrested. Witnesses are also sought and questioned. Victims certainly are interviewed. All total based on the number of perpetrators , the number of victims, and likely large numbers of witnesses to the riot and fight, there may have been 20-30 individuals questioned by the police. If Flood didn't know about the police investigation he is clueless and not as in-tune with the team as once thought.

 

[RUsilencer]

Flood would not have any idea of an active police investigation

 

[MS-RU]

If 5 or 6 players got into a brawl and the police were involved or even notified, there is a 100% chance the head coach knows. That's the way it works. It worked that way when Schiano was here and it's how it works now. The program has eyes and ears all around town.

 

[bac2therac]

If 5 or 6 players got into a brawl and the police were involved or even notified, there is a 100% chance the head coach knows. That's the way it works. It worked that way when Schiano was here and it's how it works now. The program has eyes and ears all around town.

if this is true the issue is did Kyle then not tell his higher-ups...if he didn't that's where I have an issue with him and he could get in trouble..that he would go to bat for Barnwell is quite odd

 

[bitnez]

When I was at RU I had no connection to the football team yet I knew of multiple incidents at the Golden Rail when they got into fights. It is implausible to believe that the head coach did not know his entire secondary was involved in a fight/incident in NB back in April.

 

[kupuna133]

It would be nearly impossible for him not to know about the fights. The break ins the locker room had to know and the leadership in that locker room should have let him know.

 

[MS-RU]

Exactly. I was part of the program during the Schiano era (I won't elborate in what capacity) but you would be shocked about how much and how quickly the coach/program knows about what its players get themselves into in NB and surrounding areas. Flood comes from a family of LEOs, so you really think he doesn't have some close contacts/friends in the local police force??

They might not have known the full scope of the issue but they were certainly well aware who was involved.

 

[REDRICH65]

This all happened around spring ball. He had to know.

 

[jay_hq]

I was jogging through my memory and I remember someone specifically stating that Ruhan Peele broke a kids jaw back in May.

Now this was on a random reddit post in a college football section. I didn't think it was true back then because I never heard more of it.

Now here's where it gets interesting. I searched logs on my computer and attempted to find a google cache of someone saying that. AND I FOUND IT ON GOOGLE:

See Link:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c.../rutpacmet?sort=hot+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Now you'll notice on that link that it was cached on June 6th, 2015. (The page states "It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Jun 6, 2015 11:50:49 GMT." Followed by the comment being posted "12 days ago". 12 days before June 6th is May 24th. The post was created on May 24th)

Here are the interesting comments made by this user named "rupacmet"

"Ruhan Peele, the charming gentleman who assaulted his gf and got suspended was also recently involved in a street altercation where he broke a kid's jaw. Hoping he gets his dumb ass kicked off the team."

"It didn't hit the news at all but hopefully it does or he gets in trouble in some way. I'm also friends with some girls who work for football team and they said they've been afraid of him attacking them multiple times."

Now this raises the question - how on Earth was this kid still on the team when knowledge of his behavior (Ruhan Peele was already suspended LAST season) was known?

 

[Friend of 112]

reposted - broken jaw not referenced specifically in this article,

Rutgers student assaulted, other students robbed in 2 unrelated weekend incidents: cops

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on April 27, 2015 at 5:30 PM, updated April 27, 2015 at 7:36 PM



New Brunswick police are investigating two incidents over the weekend that involved Rutgers University students.File photo
NEW BRUNSWICK —
New Brunswick police are investigating two incidents over the weekend in which Rutgers University students were victims.

The Rutgers University Police Department put out a crime alert Monday afternoon revealing the details of an assault that took place about 7:30 p.m. in the area of Delafield Street and Courtland Street. The victim received non-life threatening injuries.

A second incident occurred Sunday night about 11:29 p.m. when three men invaded an off-campus residence, showed weapons and demanded drugs. No one was injured, police said.

In the assault, police said the victim and his friends got involved in an argument with a group of 15 males who were walking. During the incident, the victim was punched and was treated at a local hospital.

In the second incident, one of the residents of a home on Prosper Street between Stone Street and Easton Avenue answered a knock on the front door and was confronted by three males, one who displayed a firearm, and a second with a baseball bat. They demanded items of value including marijuana. They took cash and marijuana from the house and fled. The victims were not injured.

Police said there are no detailed descriptions of the suspects at this time.

Anyone with information is asked to contact the New Brunswick police Detective Bureau at (732) 745-5217.

Sue Epstein may be reached at sepstein@njadvancemedia.com. Follow her on Twitter @susan_epstein. Find NJ.com on Facebook.

 

[jay_hq]

Alright that answers my question.

So it was known what they did and they still were still on the team. Not... not good.

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

Alright that answers my question.

So it was known what they did and they still were still on the team. Not... not good.

It was known that something happened....I don't see anything in that police story that suggests that Football players were involved. Do you ?

If "rupacmet" knew he should gone to the police. Are you suggesting that Flood knew?

 

[RUMBA-JK]

Note that it says Police said there are no detailed descriptions of the suspects at this time

exactly when they figured out the participants = unknown

but if it turns out that some of the players told Flood & he decided to single-handedly try to play Father Flanagan and just give them a stern talking-to and not report them - he could be done

 

[LARULARU]

The Police need to find and interview these girls as well. This is a whole other issue. Did these girls inform anyone in charge about his behavior? Were they ignored? Politi find out about this. IF true , something really terrible could have happened.

 

[jay_hq]

It was known that something happened....I don't see anything in that police story that suggests that Football players were involved. Do you ?

If "rupacmet" knew he should gone to the police. Are you suggesting that Flood knew?

Well at least someone out there knew. Thats what worries me. How can everyone be so clueless about it?

People within the athletic administration claiming they didn't know is odd.

 

[winRU]

Peele is identified by a random poster who is not sure the authorities know about it.

 

[Rokodesh]

Note that it says Police said there are no detailed descriptions of the suspects at this time

exactly when they figured out the participants = unknown

but if it turns out that some of the players told Flood & he decided to single-handedly try to play Father Flanagan and just give them a stern talking-to and not report them - he could be done

doubt this happend

Peele: Hey coach, I broke some kids jaw last night, thanks for giving me another chance!
Flood: No Problem Ruhann, see ya at practice tomorrow

 

[ArminRU]

When was the robbery? Was that a separate altercation?

 

[Leonard23]

Alright that answers my question.

So it was known what they did and they still were still on the team. Not... not good.

It was known by the reddit poster who posted it in May. How'd you connect the dots that Flood knew in May?

 

[TRU2RU]

This all happened around spring ball. He had to know.

Actually it all started the day after the Spring Game.