US News Undergraduate ranking (2022) of all P-5 Universities
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FSU must be gaming the GPA here. I believe their state scaling system does to 4.0 for an A. No way there average student is honors and .37 better than the average RU student who does better on the SAT which is more uniform and less subject to gaming.
The LSAC adjusts everyone's GPA when sending applications for law school. I don't remember applying to college anymore and if they adjusted my GPA lol.
A Research oriented State University has a completely different mission than private liberal arts schools, which invalidates the comparison. This is just another example of how continuing a theological school's tradition of keeping a wealthy slave owner's name has affected our rankings.
I would consider UGA and UF as both peer schools academically to RU. Other than Vandy and soon to be Texas, it's otherwise generally slackers in the SEC.
Surprised UGA isn't in the AAU. They're a very good school in SEC Land. Also I'd add that A&M and Mizzou aren't total clown colleges/glorified community colleges down there.
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I will say that we are definitely ahead of cuse, MD, Uconn and BC nut NEU is an outstanding school and their academic teams consistently beat MIT and Harvard in the competitions.
we should do what is necessary for RU NB. Get rid of rolling admissions, stop focusing on diversity, focus on merit, research, funded chairs, class size etc. you know, the things a school should be doing to bring in money for better academic facilities and professors.They excel at playing the game well.
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Would be nice if we could figure out how to crack the top 50 again.
it's cheap, parents can prepay (something every school should allow) and every kid in the state applies.
our acceptance rate and rolling admissions hurt, a lot!
SAT profiles at U. Florida and Florida State are about where Rutgers-New Brunswick is. And I would be surprised if they don't use rolling admissions, too.; it's a necessity at a big school. I do agree that prepayment is a wonderful idea that every school should use.
I think Florida has a program that allows for money to be set aside for a state school when a child is born. I believe Illinois and Georgia have similar programs, and probably a bunch of other states.
Like you mentioned earlier in the thread, RU doesn't have the pull in the legislature that many other schools have in their states. Also, we're literally the last state to name a major public U so our history in the field is short despite being one of two non-Ivies to be older than the US itself.
Hopefully that changes. It was really nice to see that after Ash was fired that all of a sudden sticking up for RU Athletics became politically a win.
18 states allow you to prepay and if the child does not go to in state school, the money is returned
NJ should have this
NJ should have this
The University of California has just adopted "cohort" tuition so that students and parents pay a constant tuition during their time at the school. That's a step in the right direction: Rutgers should do that.
Plenty of gullible affluent parents seem to think sending your kid to college in Boston is sort of like getting your kid in Harvard.
And we know the target audience of these rankings.
There are a lot of fine schools in Boston and its suburbs. But unless a lot has changed recently, Northeastern isn't one of them.
Academically, NEU is at best 6th in the Boston area behind Harvard, MIT, Boston U, BC, and Tufts.
That's probably right. Brandeis has lots of issues. It was founded in the 1940s to be the "Jewish Harvard" at a time when Ivy League schools had quotas for Jews. The quotas are gone now, and so Brandeis is searching for a reason to be. It still attracts a lot of Jewish students, and it has a good Jewish Studies program, but it's not clear that's enough. It's in Waltham, which is a 25-minute T ride to downtown Boston -- OK, but not great for someone who really wants to be in Boston.
I know a bunch of people who went there, at least 2 lawyers and one dentist I can think of. If I were to scratch my head more I probably had many law school classmates from there as well.
I see it is ranked 42, so even USNWR says it's better than Northeastern. I think right or wrong, it still has cache. I am not that old and I remember Northeastern having an average SAT in the 1100s and Brandeis in the 1300s so that will probably factor into the decisions of people hiring older than me. But yeah, it is probably more fun to be in Boston itself.
It's certainly interesting that Rutgers (among others) has a larger Jewish population than Brandeis. It's a different time than it was then. But even in high school- before even getting to college or law school- I remember learning about Justice Brandeis and the laboratory of the states. So his impact will be forever!
I sat by a guy at Rutgers Stadium for a while that had a kid who went to Emerson. The school was expensive, but the kid liked it, the parents liked it, and he wanted a small school.
Rutgers-New Brunswick has over ten times the enrollment of Brandeis --no surprise that it has more Jewish students. I agree Brandeis has cache, but not as much as it once had.
Louis Brandeis is probably best remembered for the Brandeis brief -- a brief containing detailed statistical information about, say, women in the workforce. He was the first Jewish Supreme Court justice (1916, appointed by Woodrow Wilson), and his appointment was very controversial because of his alleged radicalism and because he was Jewish.
There is actually a law school named after Brandeis. It is at the University of Louisville. That may be surprising, but Brandeis was born in Louisville and it is where he is buried.
What one Tufts grad, and his friend, thinks of BU. NEU doesn't bear mentioning. It's 50 seconds in.
2009 Tufts commencement
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Wow Tufts had Hank Azaria as a guest speaker for their Commencement in 09? I had no idea he was a Tufts alumnus.What one Tufts grad, and his friend, thinks of BU. NEU doesn't bear mentioning. It's 50 seconds in.
2009 Tufts commencement
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Washington Post
Opinion: I lead America’s top-ranked university. Here’s why these rankings are a problem.
I am convinced that the rankings game is a bit of mishegoss — a slightly daft obsession that does harm when colleges, parents, or students take it too seriously.It is worth noting when the president of an Ivy League college (the kind of place that had strict quotas on Jews before the 1960s) uses a Yiddish word.
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