Will GS be on the Hot Seat a year from now?

[kupuna133]

It’s all about the product. If I worked for Rutgers, I would quit, because I wouldn’t have the resources to achieve the expectations.

What you need to understand is that our value proposition isn’t as strong as our competitors. So the question you need to be asking, is what should we be doing to strengthen our value proposition?

Here are my suggestions:

1) Build the Football Fieldhouse
2) Increase NIL support

To achieve the results you want, you have to have the resources, otherwise, you have to adjust your expectations. This fanbase loves to run their mouth on the messageboard, but doesn’t want to pony up, and that’s what’s needed to improve the football teams performance. We need an alpha male to be WR1 and another to be TE1. This is what we’re missing.

Without increased support, this will be a slow build, because we’re relying on player development of the 3* recruits, which is going to take time.

What you explain above are things that Schiano knew before he signed on for this job. He knew the circumstances he knew the value proposition. You have been known to hyperbolize Rutgers academic and athletic prowess over the years. You cannot have it both ways. Our facilities are not elite but they are much better than most. They are not the problem when attracting talent. NIL cannot be used as an excuse either. The players demanding NIL are not the talent we ever attracted and will more than likely never attract. The problem with our recruiting is we are not winning and we play an awful style of football on the offensive side of the ball.

As I said earlier Schianos biggest recruit this year is the offensive coordinator. The fact that we have gone through end of season official/unofficial visits, the poartal and now signing day without a coordinator is a serious problem.

 

[retired711]

Not really sure what you mean? How much other teams improve or get worse isn't really relevant to our progress. If all the teams on our schedule are good we will have a worse record than if all of the teams on our schedule are bad. This context should always be considered either way.

Yeah, we do.

Is your second sentence correct? After all, the more other teams improve, the more we have to improve to avoid having a worse record. And if other teams can improve, we should be able to do the same -- that was the point I was trying to make, probably not very well.

 

[Knight Shift]

He attracted better players because he has a state of the art $250M Football Facility. We need one to compete.

 

[Knight Shift]

Schiano’s first tenure lasted 11 years because he knew what he was doing. Ash’s tenure lasted 3 years because he didn’t. If people want to win sooner, they simply have to pony up. Otherwise this is a slow build.

 

[MADHAT1]

hot seat if RU doesn't show if it's headed in right direction.
Cool seat if RU looks like it's headed towards respectability.
If a cool seat, year 6 will bring heat to that seat , if RU doesn't look like it will be
one of the better B1G programs.

Posters might claim no one should expect RU to turn intro one of the B1G's best, but
there will be many who claim location makes RU a program that should be considered
one of the top programs in the Nation and demand a HC that will make it one. if Schiano looks like he can't do just that.

 

[rutgersal]

What you explain above are things that Schiano knew before he signed on for this job. He knew the circumstances he knew the value proposition. You have been known to hyperbolize Rutgers academic and athletic prowess over the years. You cannot have it both ways. Our facilities are not elite but they are much better than most. They are not the problem when attracting talent. NIL cannot be used as an excuse either. The players demanding NIL are not the talent we ever attracted and will more than likely never attract. The problem with our recruiting is we are not winning and we play an awful style of football on the offensive side of the ball.

As I said earlier Schianos biggest recruit this year is the offensive coordinator. The fact that we have gone through end of season official/unofficial visits, the poartal and now signing day without a coordinator is a serious problem.

He knew the circumstances and that’s
Why He asked for, and got an 8 year contract, because he knew this would be a difficult build. He also asked for new facilities and hasn’t received them yet. So Rutgers has yet given him everything he needs to build a successful program.

The facilities really put us behind the 8 ball because when recruits compare against the better programs in this league, it’s a no brainer to go elsewhere. Michigan has two indoor facilities and Rutgers has a bubble. Such discrepancies tell recruits that Rutgers isn’t committed to having a successful program.

This is problematic because recruiting is a zero sum game. We’re either getting recruits or not getting recruits. To move this program forward, we need to get the recruits that OSU, PSU, and UM want, and under the present circumstances, that’s almost impossible. So we’re left with option B which is developing the talent. But this takes time.

We can accelerate this process by buying players via NIL. If not, we’re just going to have to be patient. There are no magic potions to make Rutgers good. It’s going to take a lot of sweat equity and hard work on he part of the kids who are coming in, to make Rutgers a winner.

 

[yessir321]

Things are not always linear, though we’d like them to be. Wouldn’t be surprised to see us hovering from 4-8 to 6-6 over the next three years.

Al that’s not good enough. I’m sorry but what kind of reputation do you think Rutgers will have at that point? Can you ever in the history of college football recall an occasion where a coach was given 6 seasons without a .500 record? No Al, Rutgers is not unique from every other program from the country.

Al, our team is not worlds less talented than Nebraska, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan state or even Minnesota. Honestly Al, under the scenario you are laying out, with what has already happened the first 3 years essentially starting over offensively year 4, if our coaches name was anything besides ‘Greg Schiano’ would you still feel that coach deserved another 3 years of no expectations?

If the answer is yes, I’m sorry to break this to you pal but you are risking getting your heart broken over this. Honestly this is part of why I was so against hiring him back.

Unfortunately I had a feeling that some of our most die hard schiano supporters would not be able to look at the job objectively if Greg began to struggle….
Here we are 3 full seasons in coming off a season that even the most optimistic would call a ‘step back’ and you are talking about 3 more years regardless if he hits .500. Al, come on now… just be rational here, that’s not good enough. I’m sorry man, love what Greg did for us in the past, but if this upcoming season doesn’t see a major turnaround offensively at what point is enough enough? If our coach was named anything but Greg Schiano, when would enough be enough?

 

[LotusAggressor]

More specifically, what impact WR or QB is going to want to commit to a poorly coached leather helmeted offensive shitshow based on facilities? The facilities at Ohio State and Michigan are nicer. Those programs win more than 5 games a year. And they actually score points.

 

[yessir321]

We’re adding significantly more talent in offense, though the kids will need time to develop. Braithwaite in the slot is an instant impact type player. You’re will be the outside receiver, but will need to spend time in the weight room. This class brings in a significant amount of WR and OL talent. Last class brought in a significant amount of OL talent, our starting RB and our starting QB. We’re not where we want to be but we are making progress.

Al, I’ll ask it this way, let’s give schiano a lifetime contract under this scenario… when does Rutgers become the USC of the East?

 

[yessir321]

More specifically, what impact WR or QB is going to want to commit to a poorly coached leather helmeted offensive shitshow based on facilities? The facilities at Ohio State and Michigan are nicer. Those programs win more than 5 games a year. And they actually score points.

While I hope that every single one of them is a diamond in the rough, perhaps that’s why we are the only P5 offer most of our recruits have

 

[kupuna133]

He knew the circumstances and that’s
Why He asked for, and got an 8 year contract, because he knew this would be a difficult build. He also asked for new facilities and hasn’t received them yet. So Rutgers has yet given him everything he needs to build a successful program.

The facilities really put us behind the 8 ball because when recruits compare against the better programs in this league, it’s a no brainer to go elsewhere. Michigan has two indoor facilities and Rutgers has a bubble. Such discrepancies tell recruits that Rutgers isn’t committed to having a successful program.

This is problematic because recruiting is a zero sum game. We’re either getting recruits or not getting recruits. To move this program forward, we need to get the recruits that OSU, PSU, and UM want, and under the present circumstances, that’s almost impossible. So we’re left with option B which is developing the talent. But this takes time.

We can accelerate this process by buying players via NIL. If not, we’re just going to have to be patient. There are no magic potions to make Rutgers good. It’s going to take a lot of sweat equity and hard work on he part of the kids who are coming in, to make Rutgers a winner.

That’s all well and good regarding facilities at the high end. I have been to many of our peers campuses and we are on par with most. But when you are getting your teeth kicked in on the recruiting trail by everyone it’s not a facilities thing. It’s unrealistic to expect a top 20 class with what he has produced in the past couple of years. But it is realistic to expect to produce a top 30-40 class. We are presently 55. There is no buzz around this program.

Al I love your enthusiasm but your off base here buddy. These excuses worked in the past. His response to the OC question at the press conference is an embarrassment. We’re working on it. Really? This should have been a priority and wrapped up within a week of the season. To not have an OC 4 weeks post season, 2 months post fire, and beyond signing day is damaging to the brand.

 

[LotusAggressor]

We’re adding significantly more talent in offense, though the kids will need time to develop. Braithwaite in the slot is an instant impact type player. You’re will be the outside receiver, but will need to spend time in the weight room. This class brings in a significant amount of WR and OL talent. Last class brought in a significant amount of OL talent, our starting RB and our starting QB. We’re not where we want to be but we are making progress.

Who's going to coach this talent? The same people who gave us the offense that rolled zeros against Minnesota and Maryland and couldn't even break 20 against Temple?

 

[mdk01]

Al, I’ll ask it this way, let’s give schiano a lifetime contract under this scenario… when does Rutgers become the USC of the East?

Unless a LOT more than what a coach can do changes, never. They'll have more NIL money than OSU, Michigan and Penn St. along with better facilities.

 

[yessir321]

Unless a LOT more than what a coach can do changes, never. They'll have more NIL money than OSU, Michigan and Penn St. along with better facilities.

Which is why imo we need a dynamic, proven HC with a recent track record of success.

I don’t want people to misconstrue my criticism of Greg 2.0 to indicate I’m not grateful for what he did for us his first tenure…. Of course I will always appreciate what he did, He put Rutgers football on the map!

With all of that said though there are so many red flags this next tenure that we all are aware of, and we deserve better than what we are seeing. Point blank.

 

[rutgersguy1]

I believe USC and Oregon have had some big recruiting wins and flips today and are getting some buzz but have said the same many times in the past as Wilner here. Utah with its second straight PAC 12 title and Oregon State with a 10 win season following up a 7 win season. Find a way to make it work with what you have. You can be respectable or better.

 

[Nycrusupporter]

If Greg (or any coach for that matter) can get RU to a consistent 7-5/8-4 team with 6-6 and 5-7 years mixed in 1/3 of the time and a 4-8 once every 8-10 years, that may be the ceiling in the B1G, especially with USC joining. Penn State was excellent this year, and they could not beat the tOSU or Michigan.

That is our reality. Just ask Indiana. 24 years of not having a winning regular season record until 2019. Two 8 win seasons since 1993. Big Ten member since 1953. Heck, they have been at it so long, Lee Corso was their coach there, and not a very good one. What makes people think RU, given their history, will turn into some perennial winner.

Or even Purdue (yes, in the West, but the divisions are supposedly going away)--how long did it take them to get to 8-4? Nine years after Hazell was hired. It took Brohm 5 years to get there. And he "only" went 8-5 this year.

I hope Indiana isn’t the model we are following . . .

 

[mdk01]

Which is why imo we need a dynamic, proven HC with a recent track record of success.

Let's see. Like Sanders with his 5.9 mil salary? Bielma with his 6 mil salary? Or like Fickell with his 7 mil salary?

 

[Knight Shift]

I hope Indiana isn’t the model we are following . . .

Who said anything about a model. Indiana is a middling program like ours that has been at it in the B1G for many more years than RU with very limited years of success. It's reality when you are in the same conference and division with three blue bloods. And people want to compare to Kansas in the Big 12. What a joke of an expectation to set for ourselves.

 

[jorand]

He attracted better players because he has a state of the art $250M Football Facility. We need one to compete.

Locks has been a dynamite recruiter for a long time.

Way before the new facility was built.

 

[rutgersal]

Al that’s not good enough. I’m sorry but what kind of reputation do you think Rutgers will have at that point? Can you ever in the history of college football recall an occasion where a coach was given 6 seasons without a .500 record? No Al, Rutgers is not unique from every other program from the country.

Al, our team is not worlds less talented than Nebraska, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan state or even Minnesota. Honestly Al, under the scenario you are laying out, with what has already happened the first 3 years essentially starting over offensively year 4, if our coaches name was anything besides ‘Greg Schiano’ would you still feel that coach deserved another 3 years of no expectations?

If the answer is yes, I’m sorry to break this to you pal but you are risking getting your heart broken over this. Honestly this is part of why I was so against hiring him back.

Unfortunately I had a feeling that some of our most die hard schiano supporters would not be able to look at the job objectively if Greg began to struggle….
Here we are 3 full seasons in coming off a season that even the most optimistic would call a ‘step back’ and you are talking about 3 more years regardless if he hits .500. Al, come on now… just be rational here, that’s not good enough. I’m sorry man, love what Greg did for us in the past, but if this upcoming season doesn’t see a major turnaround offensively at what point is enough enough? If our coach was named anything but Greg Schiano, when would enough be enough?

If that's not good enough, @yessir321, what are you going to do to improve things? Frank Beamer was given more than 6 seasons, and the decision paid off.

Beamer's record in his first six seasons was 24-40-2, a win percentage of .385. After the team went 2–8–1 in 1992, athletic director Dave Braine believed in Beamer and thought he deserved more time. It proved to be a wise decision; the Hokies would not suffer another losing season under Beamer's watch.

Unfortunately, @yessir321 , it doesn't seem that you understand the challenges of Rutgers situation. There's a reason why most coaches wouldn't touch this job with a 100 foot pole and its due to lack of support. Schiano has a plan for success, despite adverse circumstances, and is executing it. He has fixed the defense and now is adding depth to it.

We're just getting started on the offense. this is the second straight class where we've recruited important pieces who are eventually going to impact. But it will take time.
you don't go from having one of the worst offenses in college football to having a major turnaround just because you desire it. And it's not enough to have good frontline talent. You need to have depth, because injuries are going to pile up towards the end of the season.

If people want winning seasons, they need to pony up, or patiently wait till we develop the talent needed to be successful. This isn't a quick fix situation. this isn't john madden football where every play works. Kids have to hit the weight room, improve their technique, and watch film. These are just some of the things kids have to do to become the best players they can be.

 

[rutgersal]

Locks has been a dynamite recruiter for a long time.

Way before the new facility was built.

Maryland's facility was unveiled June 4, 2021. Since then, we haven't come close to beating Maryland.

 

[jorand]

Maryland's facility was unveiled June 4, 2021. Since then, we haven't come close to beating Maryland.

2019 was Locksley's first season. MD 48-7

2020 was the game where MD was missing key players due to Covid. Rutgers 27-24

Before the facility.

Don't get me wrong: I think a new facility will help Rutgers but I'm a firm believer it's about the person doing the recruiting.

 

[Shelby65]

We’re adding significantly more talent in offense, though the kids will need time to develop. Braithwaite in the slot is an instant impact type player. You’re will be the outside receiver, but will need to spend time in the weight room. This class brings in a significant amount of WR and OL talent. Last class brought in a significant amount of OL talent, our starting RB and our starting QB. We’re not where we want to be but we are making progress.

Braithwaite Instant impact due to the complete dearth of existing talent ? Or instant impact due to his stellar ranking and offer list ? Who else offered ?

 

[rutgersguy1]

If that's not good enough, @yessir321, what are you going to do to improve things? Frank Beamer was given more than 6 seasons, and the decision paid off.

Beamer's record in his first six seasons was 24-40-2, a win percentage of .385. After the team went 2–8–1 in 1992, athletic director Dave Braine believed in Beamer and thought he deserved more time. It proved to be a wise decision; the Hokies would not suffer another losing season under Beamer's watch.

Unfortunately, @yessir321 , it doesn't seem that you understand the challenges of Rutgers situation. There's a reason why most coaches wouldn't touch this job with a 100 foot pole and its due to lack of support. Schiano has a plan for success, despite adverse circumstances, and is executing it. He has fixed the defense and now is adding depth to it.

We're just getting started on the offense. this is the second straight class where we've recruited important pieces who are eventually going to impact. But it will take time.
you don't go from having one of the worst offenses in college football to having a major turnaround just because you desire it. And it's not enough to have good frontline talent. You need to have depth, because injuries are going to pile up towards the end of the season.

If people want winning seasons, they need to pony up, or patiently wait till we develop the talent needed to be successful. This isn't a quick fix situation. this isn't john madden football where every play works. Kids have to hit the weight room, improve their technique, and watch film. These are just some of the things kids have to do to become the best players they can be.

Beamer was 30 years ago and he had 6 win regular seasons in his 3rd and 4th years.

 

[rutgersal]

Braithwaite Instant impact due to the complete dearth of existing talent ? Or instant impact due to his stellar ranking and offer list ? Who else offered ?

Instant impact due to his skillset and what he brings to the table

 

[rutgersal]

Beamer was 30 years ago and he had 6 win regular seasons in his 3rd and 4th years.

And Beamer didn’t have OSU, PSU, UM, plus have to play either Wisky, Nebraska, or Iowa.

 

[Shelby65]

That doesn’t answer the question Al. Lame cliches. Did you learn those from Schiano at TDC meetings ? I will ask a different way: is he a legit P5 receiver or do you expect ‘instant impact’ because in case he is not, we don’t have any other P5 players anyway ?

 

[rutgersal]

2019 was Locksley's first season. MD 48-7

2020 was the game where MD was missing key players due to Covid. Rutgers 27-24

Before the facility.

Don't get me wrong: I think a new facility will help Rutgers but I'm a firm believer it's about the person doing the recruiting.

Everyone is a good recruiter in the Big Ten. There are no bad recruiters. The differentiators are tradition of success, facilities, and stadium environment, imo.

 

[rutgersguy1]

And Beamer didn’t have OSU, PSU, UM, plus have to play either Wisky, Nebraska, or Iowa.

The schedule is the schedule and VT played 4 ranked teams one of those years and 3 ranked teams the other.

 

[rutgersal]

That doesn’t answer the question Al. I will ask a different way: is he a legit P5 receiver or do expect ‘instant impact’ because in case he is not, we don’t have any other P5 players anyway ?

He’s instant impact because he’s lightening quick and has good hands.

 

[Shelby65]

Everyone is a good recruiter in the Big Ten. There are no bad recruiters. The differentiators are tradition of success, facilities, and stadium environment, imo.

Makes no sense, as usual coming from you. In any role or profession, some are better than others. The weaker ones are bad in comparison.

 

[Shelby65]

He’s instant impact because he’s lightening quick and has good hands.

Is he legit P5 ? Offers where ? Can you look that up and let us know ? (And what does ‘lightening quick’ mean ? As opposed to ‘darkening slow ?)

 

[rutgersal]

The schedule is the schedule and VT played 4 ranked teams one of those years and 3 ranked teams the other.

So what. None of those schedules are as tough as the schedules that we’re facing today. Michigan, Penn State, and Ohio State are all in the Top 10. They’ve got 100K seat stadiums, NIL support, and the best facilitator money can buy. The big ten schedule is insanely difficult.

 

[rutgersguy1]

So what. None of those schedules are as tough as the schedules that we’re facing today. Michigan, Penn State, and Ohio State are all in the Top 10. They’ve got 100K seat stadiums, NIL support, and the best facilitator money can buy. The big ten schedule is insanely difficult.

Yea always some excuse. Oregon State is a lower status school too and played 4 teams that finished in the CFP rankings this year and had a 10 win season following a 7 win season. Oregon State themselves finished in the CFP rankings and beat Oregon when Oregon had the PAC12 title on the line. Oregon St couldn’t even pass the ball in that game. Find a way to get respectable without a litany of excuses. We’re never going to have the resources of these big programs any time soon, it has tot be more with less. The coach has to be one who can do that and if not we try again and again until we find one who can.

 

[Shelby65]

Yea always some excuse. Oregon State is a lower status school too and played 4 teams that finished in the CFP rankings this year and had a 10 win season following a 7 win season. Oregon State themselves finished in the CFP rankings and beat Oregon when Oregon had the PAC12 title on the line. Oregon St couldn’t even pass the ball in that game. Find a way to get respectable without a litany of excuses. We’re never going to have the resources of these big programs any time soon, it has tot be more with less. The coach has to be one who can do that and if not we try again and again until we find one who can.

Yes. No hire is a sure winner but by now we know for sure ours is not a winner. Cant even get a credible OC to come here for a million a year or more. Thanks to him, this stinks worse than than the turnpike adjacent to the Elizabeth power stations in 1974.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Yes. No hire is a sure winner but by now we know for sure ours is not a winner. Cant even get a credible OC to come here for a million a year or more. Thanks to him, this stinks worse than than the turnpike adjacent to the Elizabeth power stations in 1974.

I'm not psychic, I don't know what GS' tenure will end up being. What will be will be. But I do see the norm and metrics out there for programs high status and low status and how much leeway is given for coaches.

4 straight losing years isn't a good place to be for job security but a few have survived. So it's possible GS could survive. 5 straight losing years and I haven't found 1 that makes it to a 6th. If you do who knows how far back in history you have to reach.

I'll give another example. Derek Mason the former Vandy coach had 6 win regular seasons in year 3 and 5. He ended up being 6-7 those years after the bowl game and 3-5 in the SEC. Vandy just like Oregon State and others are playing programs with many more resources but Mason showed some respectability for a bit. I can see a coach here muddle along and survive with that kind of off and on record. But I'd be shocked to see a coach here get more than 5 years if not one of them ends in a 6 win regular season.

 

[rutgersal]

Yea always some excuse. Oregon State is a lower status school too and played 4 teams that finished in the CFP rankings this year and had a 10 win season following a 7 win season. Oregon State themselves finished in the CFP rankings and beat Oregon when Oregon had the PAC12 title on the line. Oregon St couldn’t even pass the ball in that game. Find a way to get respectable without a litany of excuses. We’re never going to have the resources of these big programs any time soon, it has tot be more with less. The coach has to be one who can do that and if not we try again and again until we find one who can.

it’s not enough to have frontline talent in the Big Ten. It’s crucial to have depth as well, because kids are going to get banged up, because unlike the pac12, it’s a very physical league where teams run the ball and play tough defense. We had 12 players with surgeries, as we were banged up.

You can’t win with smoke and mirrors in this league because you will get exposed. You have to build up the talent base because it’s very difficult to win in this league without adequate talent. You either recruit it or develop it. Since we are developing it, it will take longer. Schiano is one of the few coaches with the Aptitude for doing so because he has an eye for spitting talent.

Nevertheless, we are on the right track as We are successfully building the talent base but there is much work to do on the offensive side of the ball where both frontline talent and depth must be built. This is going to take time. Unless someone steps up to the plate like usc boosters did, and bought success. Don’t think that will be an option for us.

 

[retired711]

I hope Indiana isn’t the model we are following . . .

Actually, it is. I doubt that Rutgers is ever going to make the investment necessary to be comparable to Michigan or Ohio State. So I'd be happy if we can consistently qualify for bowl games, and be competitive even in our losses to the big boys.

 

[fluoxetine]

he has an eye for spitting talent.

That's not the kind of talent we want here Al.

 

[yessir321]

If that's not good enough, @yessir321, what are you going to do to improve things? Frank Beamer was given more than 6 seasons, and the decision paid off.

Beamer's record in his first six seasons was 24-40-2, a win percentage of .385. After the team went 2–8–1 in 1992, athletic director Dave Braine believed in Beamer and thought he deserved more time. It proved to be a wise decision; the Hokies would not suffer another losing season under Beamer's watch.

Unfortunately, @yessir321 , it doesn't seem that you understand the challenges of Rutgers situation. There's a reason why most coaches wouldn't touch this job with a 100 foot pole and its due to lack of support. Schiano has a plan for success, despite adverse circumstances, and is executing it. He has fixed the defense and now is adding depth to it.

We're just getting started on the offense. this is the second straight class where we've recruited important pieces who are eventually going to impact. But it will take time.
you don't go from having one of the worst offenses in college football to having a major turnaround just because you desire it. And it's not enough to have good frontline talent. You need to have depth, because injuries are going to pile up towards the end of the season.

If people want winning seasons, they need to pony up, or patiently wait till we develop the talent needed to be successful. This isn't a quick fix situation. this isn't john madden football where every play works. Kids have to hit the weight room, improve their technique, and watch film. These are just some of the things kids have to do to become the best players they can be.

Al,

You are reaching 30 years in the past to try to find an example and still did not answer my question. If our coaches name was anything besides Greg a schiano and nothing about the tenure of 2.0 was any different, would you still feel the same way?

I do not believe that most coaches would not touch this job, not for a second. Now they may not be the ‘name coaches’ that some might suggest, however there are PLENTY of excellent up and coming HC’s who would jump at the opportunity for a P5 job? Case and Point Lance Leipold. You really think Colorado has so much more to offer than Rutgers also? Come on now Al… we both know that’s not the case…

As for the offense, who said anything about not expecting it to take time? It’s been 3 years Al and we are essentially at square one. Why did we only start focusing on offense a year ago as you suggested rather than from jump street? You cannot tell me we can only build one unit at a time, nonsense. Brown looks like a nice RB though like any nice thing we have is getting blown out of proportion as he’s coming off a season ending injury in a year he had one 100 yards game, and while I think Gavin has talent, he was like a baby deer out there last year completely lost at times…. He looked YEARS away from being competent. No Al, not even at Rutgers if you are Greg Schiano do you get a pass on a completely inept unit… There’s nothing that points to a drastic offensive turnaround, and yes, it’s criminal for us to not have an OC at this point.

You know how essential it is for us to bring in some kids from the portal, we are now 2 weeks in the 45 day transfer window with no OC, and no incoming offensive transfers… this is setting up to be a travesty.

Meanwhile every press conference Greg makes is filled with excuses. Can you give me an example of a coach so immune from criticism that has an excuse for everything the way Greg did this year?

You gotta stop buying into the nonsense Al.