Will GS be on the Hot Seat a year from now?

[yessir321]

Let's see. Like Sanders with his 5.9 mil salary? Bielma with his 6 mil salary? Or like Fickell with his 7 mil salary?

Like Mike Houston and his $2 million salary…

Though I’ll admit, we missed the biggest opportunity we had perhaps in the history of the program to right the ship by not cutting g ties with Greg and going all in on Prime. I don’t believe for a second he wouldn’t have chosen us over Colorado just for the proximity to NYC alone

 

[mdk01]

Like Mike Houston and his $2 million salary…

Though I’ll admit, we missed the biggest opportunity we had perhaps in the history of the program to right the ship by not cutting g ties with Greg and going all in on Prime. I don’t believe for a second he wouldn’t have chosen us over Colorado just for the proximity to NYC alone

So he'd take 1.9 million less to come to Rutgers? Or are you saying Rutgers would have paid him $5.9 million? I doubt either is the case.

How much would Houston have gotten for facilities improvement? And the unknown, how well would he have recruited. One the one hand, B1G. On the other, to the best of my knowledge, no NJ connections.

 

[rutgersal]

Who's going to coach this talent? The same people who gave us the offense that rolled zeros against Minnesota and Maryland and couldn't even break 20 against Temple?

Possibly. It’s not the alignment, it’s the alignees. Need better talent across the board and this incoming class was a big step forward.

 

[Morrischiano]

Like Mike Houston and his $2 million salary…

Though I’ll admit, we missed the biggest opportunity we had perhaps in the history of the program to right the ship by not cutting g ties with Greg and going all in on Prime. I don’t believe for a second he wouldn’t have chosen us over Colorado just for the proximity to NYC alone

Sanders is a showman and not a person who can stand up to the bright lights of the BiG with undermanned team. RU is a tough job. I doubt that Sanders would take it. Colorado is perfect for him. A terrible team in a weak conference. He can take them from 1 win season to 5-6 wins in two years and then he'll carpet bag to a job in the bottom of the SEC or the ACC.

 

[rutgersal]

Al,

You are reaching 30 years in the past to try to find an example and still did not answer my question. If our coaches name was anything besides Greg a schiano and nothing about the tenure of 2.0 was any different, would you still feel the same way?

I do not believe that most coaches would not touch this job, not for a second. Now they may not be the ‘name coaches’ that some might suggest, however there are PLENTY of excellent up and coming HC’s who would jump at the opportunity for a P5 job? Case and Point Lance Leipold. You really think Colorado has so much more to offer than Rutgers also? Come on now Al… we both know that’s not the case…

As for the offense, who said anything about not expecting it to take time? It’s been 3 years Al and we are essentially at square one. Why did we only start focusing on offense a year ago as you suggested rather than from jump street? You cannot tell me we can only build one unit at a time, nonsense. Brown looks like a nice RB though like any nice thing we have is getting blown out of proportion as he’s coming off a season ending injury in a year he had one 100 yards game, and while I think Gavin has talent, he was like a baby deer out there last year completely lost at times…. He looked YEARS away from being competent. No Al, not even at Rutgers if you are Greg Schiano do you get a pass on a completely inept unit… There’s nothing that points to a drastic offensive turnaround, and yes, it’s criminal for us to not have an OC at this point.

You know how essential it is for us to bring in some kids from the portal, we are now 2 weeks in the 45 day transfer window with no OC, and no incoming offensive transfers… this is setting up to be a travesty.

Meanwhile every press conference Greg makes is filled with excuses. Can you give me an example of a coach so immune from criticism that has an excuse for everything the way Greg did this year?

You gotta stop buying into the nonsense Al.

There will be more kids going into the portal in May, so there is time to add portal kids. Greg Schiano has built up enough goodwill over his first 11 years to get the benefit of the doubt. No other coach would get that because no other coach has built up the goodwill he has. We are not at square one because we’ve built a defense that is one of the best in conference. Most of the high school talent went towards fixing the defense and we are now seeing the benefits of that.

Now it’s onto fixing the offense. The biggest problem with the offense is the lack of talent on the offensive line. We tried to patch with portal kids but it hasn’t worked out quite the way we’ve wanted. We are not very good at drive blocking and pass protecting. We also have to do a better job of finishing our blocks. Nevertheless, we now have the kids on the roster to have a quality offensive line, with this incoming class and previous classes. But it’s going to take time to develop the kids into a cohesive unit that executes on a very high level. The kids are going to need weight room time, and time with their coach to perfect their technique. This won’t happen overnight but over time. This is why this is not a quick fix situation. Once the line is developed into an effective unit, we won’t have issues scoring points. I’m comfortable with the WR talent also, but these kids are also going to need time to develop. We have huge holes at the tight end position to fill, and that will likely be done with transfers. We’ve come a long way, but we still have a long way to go.

 

[rutgersal]

Sanders is a showman and not a person who can stand up to the bright lights of the BiG with undermanned team. RU is a tough job. I doubt that Sanders would take it. Colorado is perfect for him. A terrible team in a weak conference. He can take them from 1 win season to 5-6 wins in two years and then he'll carpet bag to a job in the bottom of the SEC or the ACC.

Sanders wont touch this job with a 100 foot pole because it’s too much work., at Colorado he’s in a situation where the boosters are willing to buy players, so he may be able to turn around that situation quickly, provided he gets the right players.

 

[fluoxetine]

Look, Al, I am perfectly willing to give GS a pass for this year. But by years 4 and 5 we are reaching the point where the entire roster will have been recruited by him and he needs to start showing something. I think hardline win cutoffs are foolish (there are a lot of ways for a football team to go 5-7 and they are not created equal) but he needs to show something, anything. We need to at least be a mediocre football team by FBS standards if not by power 5 standards (currently we are bad by both standards).

A lot of what you are saying just doesn't make any sense. Why would you build a defense and THEN an offense? That's not a thing that people do, that's not a thing that Schiano is doing, that's just a thing you made up to excuse the offense.

The stuff about waiting 7 years for players to develop also makes no sense. The players are only here for 5 years max. If he can't win in year 5 with a fully developed roster that he recruited.. why would waiting longer change it? The roster isn't getting bigger or more developed after year 5. The year 3 recruiting class certainly isn't blowing years 1 or 2 out of the water either so that's not the answer.

I'm not saying he won't get it done. He has a chance. But if things are not improving in the next two years he's done. And you, Al, will be the only one against that.

 

[fluoxetine]

Also there are a shitload of G5 that would wipe the floor with us currently and the idea that this is due to a lack of resources is absurd. Are Troy and Tulane out there buying players that we can't?

And before you respond with blah, blah, Big Ten schedule, blah blah I am talking about the quality of the actual football team, not the W/L record. OBVIOUSLY Troy would not be 12-2 in the B1G East. OBVIOUSLY Tulane would not be 11-2 in the B1G East. But they would both kick our ass easily.

 

[kupuna133]

Possibly. It’s not the alignment, it’s the alignees. Need better talent across the board and this incoming class was a big step forward.

So this directly contradicts your argument regarding development. If we are relying on this years recruits, which should be 2-3 years away from seeing the field, by your development argument. We are in for 2-3 years of pain. This is not a top 15-20 recruiting class. This is a class filled with 18 year old 3 stars.

We have some talent in the program. And many of the losses this year were not an alignee problem. It was an alignment problem. We have comparable talent to most of the B1G outside of PSU, OSU and Mich. We are not shutout loss talent level against Maryland, and Minnesota. We lost to Iowa , Nebraska, MSU not because of alignee but because of alignment.

 

[rutgersal]

Look, Al, I am perfectly willing to give GS a pass for this year. But by years 4 and 5 we are reaching the point where the entire roster will have been recruited by him and he needs to start showing something. I think hardline win cutoffs are foolish (there are a lot of ways for a football team to go 5-7 and they are not created equal) but he needs to show something, anything. We need to at least be a mediocre football team by FBS standards if not by power 5 standards (currently we are bad by both standards).

A lot of what you are saying just doesn't make any sense. Why would you build a defense and THEN an offense? That's not a thing that people do, that's not a thing that Schiano is doing, that's just a thing you made up to excuse the offense.

The stuff about waiting 7 years for players to develop also makes no sense. The players are only here for 5 years max. If he can't win in year 5 with a fully developed roster that he recruited.. why would waiting longer change it? The roster isn't getting bigger or more developed after year 5. The year 3 recruiting class certainly isn't blowing years 1 or 2 out of the water either so that's not the answer.

I'm not saying he won't get it done. He has a chance. But if things are not improving in the next two years he's done. And you, Al, will be the only one against that.

It was his intent to build the offense and defense simultaneously. But it just so happened that he hired an excellent recruiter for the defense in Fran Brown but the recruiters on the offense weren’t as strong, to say the least. Consequently, the recruiting results weren’t that great. Also, all the best kids that could have gone either way, like Melton and Longerbeam, went to the defense.

So they brought in transfers on offense, to patch holes, but not all the transfers worked out. And that’s why last years line struggled against better competition.

Thankfully, the recruiting results for ‘22 and ‘23 were much better than previous, and I think these two classes will ultimately form the nucleus for a good offense.

The defense will be better this year and the offense will also be better, and games should be better against better competition. But not sure if that will translate into more wins. For us to win more, the offensive line has to take a huge step forward, but I’m not sure they’re ready to do that yet. Once the ‘22 and ‘23 kids develop, we will have a good offensive line, and we will be ready to win.
Nevertheless, we will show progress in offensive productivity this year.

 

[rutgersal]

So this directly contradicts your argument regarding development. If we are relying on this years recruits, which should be 2-3 years away from seeing the field, by your development argument. We are in for 2-3 years of pain. This is not a top 15-20 recruiting class. This is a class filled with 18 year old 3 stars.

We have some talent in the program. And many of the losses this year were not an alignee problem. It was an alignment problem. We have comparable talent to most of the B1G outside of PSU, OSU and Mich. We are not shutout loss talent level against Maryland, and Minnesota. We lost to Iowa , Nebraska, MSU not because of alignee but because of alignment.

This is a class of high potential kids that need to be developed. They along with the ‘22 class will form the nucleus of a good offense. Thankfully, once these guys enroll, we’ll have what we need to win. The only thing left will be to develop, develop, develop. This isn’t going to happen overnight.

I’m looking at our schedule for ‘23 and:
- were not beating OSU
- were not beating UM
- were not beating PSU
- were not beating Maryland with Taulia returning
- were not beating Wisconsin
- were not beating Iowa

So six games is our opportunity.

 

[retired711]

It was his intent to build the offense and defense simultaneously. But it just so happened that he hired an excellent recruiter for the defense in Fran Brown but the recruiters on the offense weren’t as strong, to say the least. Consequently, the recruiting results weren’t that great. Also, all the best kids that could have gone either way, like Melton and Longerbeam, went to the defense.

So they brought in transfers on offense, to patch holes, but not all the transfers worked out. And that’s why last years line struggled against better competition.

Thankfully, the recruiting results for ‘22 and ‘23 were much better than previous, and I think these two classes will ultimately form the nucleus for a good offense.

The defense will be better this year and the offense will also be better, and games should be better against better competition. But not sure if that will translate into more wins. For us to win more, the offensive line has to take a huge step forward, but I’m not sure they’re ready to do that yet. Once the ‘22 and ‘23 kids develop, we will have a good offensive line, and we will be ready to win.
Nevertheless, we will show progress in offensive productivity this year.

It doesn't surprise me that Schiano, a specialist in defense, built that side first. I also think -- perhaps I'm wrong -- is that it's easier to build a defense than an offense; it's easier to disrupt someone else's plans than to accomplish your own. In addition, it's not enough to recruit good offensive linemen -- they have to learn to work together.

I believe, as Politi argued in a recent column, that we need to recruit another QB. Running QBs are easily injured, and they need at least one excellent backup.

 

[retired711]

This is a class of high potential kids that need to be developed. They along with the ‘22 class will form the nucleus of a good offense. Thankfully, once these guys enroll, we’ll have what we need to win. The only thing left will be to develop, develop, develop. This isn’t going to happen overnight.

I’m looking at our schedule for ‘23 and:
- were not beating OSU
- were not beating UM
- were not beating PSU
- were not beating Maryland with Taulia returning
- were not beating Wisconsin
- were not beating Iowa

So six games is our opportunity.

We ought to be able to win all six of those, and be at least competitive against Maryland, Wisconsin and Iowa. No more 30-0 and 37-0 blowouts against non-elite teams!

 

[mdk01]

We ought to be able to win all six of those, and be at least competitive against Maryland, Wisconsin and Iowa. No more 30-0 and 37-0 blowouts against non-elite teams!

Never say never with Maryland with their inconsistency.

 

[kupuna133]

This is a class of high potential kids that need to be developed. They along with the ‘22 class will form the nucleus of a good offense. Thankfully, once these guys enroll, we’ll have what we need to win. The only thing left will be to develop, develop, develop. This isn’t going to happen overnight.

I’m looking at our schedule for ‘23 and:
- were not beating OSU
- were not beating UM
- were not beating PSU
- were not beating Maryland with Taulia returning
- were not beating Wisconsin
- were not beating Iowa

So six games is our opportunity.

Yea. I don't understand this class is a big step forward in talent (your words). If it is still wait 3 years to see the development kick in. What you write above is the problem. At this point, 3-4 years under Schiano 2.0, Maryland Wisconsin and Iowa should not be written off as losses. I didn't expect overnight. But 3-4 years of rhetoric is getting old and is definitely not overnight. These are his recruits seeing the field now. I like this class. But I am a realist and agree this is a development class not a class that can be looked upon to add many point to the scoreboard this year or next.

 

[yessir321]

So he'd take 1.9 million less to come to Rutgers? Or are you saying Rutgers would have paid him $5.9 million? I doubt either is the case.

How much would Houston have gotten for facilities improvement? And the unknown, how well would he have recruited. One the one hand, B1G. On the other, to the best of my knowledge, no NJ connections.

Several NJ connections particularly from his time at JMU.

Any coach would have gotten facilities improvement based on what they were inheriting. No coach was just going to willingly sign on the dotted line without improvements to facilities.

We just unfortunately had too many fans that refused to look at Greg’s body of work since he left here and re-emerge themselves into 2006.

 

[yessir321]

There will be more kids going into the portal in May, so there is time to add portal kids. Greg Schiano has built up enough goodwill over his first 11 years to get the benefit of the doubt. No other coach would get that because no other coach has built up the goodwill he has. We are not at square one because we’ve built a defense that is one of the best in conference. Most of the high school talent went towards fixing the defense and we are now seeing the benefits of that.

Now it’s onto fixing the offense. The biggest problem with the offense is the lack of talent on the offensive line. We tried to patch with portal kids but it hasn’t worked out quite the way we’ve wanted. We are not very good at drive blocking and pass protecting. We also have to do a better job of finishing our blocks. Nevertheless, we now have the kids on the roster to have a quality offensive line, with this incoming class and previous classes. But it’s going to take time to develop the kids into a cohesive unit that executes on a very high level. The kids are going to need weight room time, and time with their coach to perfect their technique. This won’t happen overnight but over time. This is why this is not a quick fix situation. Once the line is developed into an effective unit, we won’t have issues scoring points. I’m comfortable with the WR talent also, but these kids are also going to need time to develop. We have huge holes at the tight end position to fill, and that will likely be done with transfers. We’ve come a long way, but we still have a long way to go.

Al, has anyone ever told you nice guys finish last? You cannot take anything that occurred in 1.0 as merit of anything that has happened since 2.0 took over. You have to look at the tenures as though they are 2 different coaches.

Our defense is average. We finished with the 38th ranked defense in the country, that ain’t elite Al… it not bad but you are building it up like it’s this elite unit because of how inept the offense is. Middle of the pack big ten teams have no problem marching up and down the field on us.

Until you and others still hanging onto 2006 can realize that the game is completely different, we stand no chance. Unfortunately man, you are looking at this tenure with far too much emotion.

Al, we both want Rutgers to win, it can happen as well, but not with a coach unwilling to accept any responsibility. This new version of Greg is not the same man who was coaching when I was a student. That guy never made excuses and never hid from anything. This Greg is still blaming what he inherited 3 years ago with a roster that’s been turned over…

 

[yessir321]

Sanders wont touch this job with a 100 foot pole because it’s too much work., at Colorado he’s in a situation where the boosters are willing to buy players, so he may be able to turn around that situation quickly, provided he gets the right players.

Al, that’s nonsense. Colorado was a 1 win PAC 12 team last year. Their boosters weren’t buying anyone. The excuse making for Greg is getting pathetic man.

 

[yessir321]

This is a class of high potential kids that need to be developed. They along with the ‘22 class will form the nucleus of a good offense. Thankfully, once these guys enroll, we’ll have what we need to win. The only thing left will be to develop, develop, develop. This isn’t going to happen overnight.

I’m looking at our schedule for ‘23 and:
- were not beating OSU
- were not beating UM
- were not beating PSU
- were not beating Maryland with Taulia returning
- were not beating Wisconsin
- were not beating Iowa

So six games is our opportunity.

Wisconsin, Maryland and Iowa are all winnable games…. This is year 4 Al. Just because other teams have good players does not mean we should automatically lose.

Al, honest question, and I’m dead serious asking this as you are contradicting your arguments in order to justify Greg. At this point does it mean more to you to have Greg as our coach than for us to win? It’s ok if that’s the case, we’ll disagree but I could at least understand why you are acting as though Greg didn’t hire Gleason and isn’t responsible for the abomination that is our offense (and unlike you, I don’t have faith that a bunch of us ranked HS recruits will be effective day 1 starters in the conference

 

[MADHAT1]

Al, that’s nonsense. Colorado was a 1 win PAC 12 team last year. Their boosters weren’t buying anyone. The excuse making for Greg is getting pathetic man.

When comparing programs remember RU wasn't offering a great deal and had to be forced to pay Schiano $32 million over 8 years while Sanders will have a five-year , $29.5 million deal with the Buffs. At an average annual value (AAV) of $5.9 million.

This doesn't mean Schiano has an excuse if he doesn't succeed, but shows that implications
comparing who RU could have hired might be a little off base when you look at prices paid to get the HC.
I have felt since Hobbs started looking to replace Ash and looking for possible hires, Schiano was the best choice of those willing to take the position with what was probably being offered and no other choice could receive the support for the job from the RU Fanbase like Greg received.
Hobbs was just about forced to up the price to hire Greg , better qualified candidates couldn't get enough support to have RU pay enough to get them.
Greg will be on the hot seat going into his 5th year if year 4 is anything like year was

 

[Nycrusupporter]

This is a class of high potential kids that need to be developed. They along with the ‘22 class will form the nucleus of a good offense. Thankfully, once these guys enroll, we’ll have what we need to win. The only thing left will be to develop, develop, develop. This isn’t going to happen overnight.

I’m looking at our schedule for ‘23 and:
- were not beating OSU
- were not beating UM
- were not beating PSU
- were not beating Maryland with Taulia returning
- were not beating Wisconsin
- were not beating Iowa

So six games is our opportunity.

Al, if Schiano can’t beat Luke Fickell in year 1 at Wisconsin, he will never beat him.

 

[rutgersal]

It doesn't surprise me that Schiano, a specialist in defense, built that side first. I also think -- perhaps I'm wrong -- is that it's easier to build a defense than an offense; it's easier to disrupt someone else's plans than to accomplish your own. In addition, it's not enough to recruit good offensive linemen -- they have to learn to work together.

I believe, as Politi argued in a recent column, that we need to recruit another QB. Running QBs are easily injured, and they need at least one excellent backup.

True, but we didn't recruit the offensive side of the ball well at all. I was very surprised we didn't have a bunch of Florida Wide Receivers in our first class. We'll see on the QB. Think we could use one, but it didn't seem like a priority for him in the press conference. We have the linemen on the roster needed to field a good offensive line, but as you said, its going to take time for them to develop. The '23 line will probably be carryover, but might receive a boost if Reggie Sutton returns. The '24 line could look like this:

'24 OLine
LT Dante Chin or Jacob Allen or Emir Stinette or Taj White
LG Kwabena Asamoah
C Gus Zilinskas
RG John Stone
RT Hollin Pierce

 

[rutgersal]

Al, if Schiano can’t beat Luke Fickell in year 1 at Wisconsin, he will never beat him.

nonsense, Wisconsin is far ahead of us, even if they had a down year this year. We're still building our offensive line, WR corp, and TE Corp. And most importantly, our QB is still trying to figure things out.

This year we have no shot, but the next time we play them, we will beat them.

 

[rutgersal]

Yea. I don't understand this class is a big step forward in talent (your words). If it is still wait 3 years to see the development kick in. What you write above is the problem. At this point, 3-4 years under Schiano 2.0, Maryland Wisconsin and Iowa should not be written off as losses. I didn't expect overnight. But 3-4 years of rhetoric is getting old and is definitely not overnight. These are his recruits seeing the field now. I like this class. But I am a realist and agree this is a development class not a class that can be looked upon to add many point to the scoreboard this year or next.

this class will start impacting in two years time.

 

[rutgersal]

Several NJ connections particularly from his time at JMU.

Any coach would have gotten facilities improvement based on what they were inheriting. No coach was just going to willingly sign on the dotted line without improvements to facilities.

We just unfortunately had too many fans that refused to look at Greg’s body of work since he left here and re-emerge themselves into 2006.

He's 7-5 at East Carolina in his fourth year, in the AAC, and doesn't have a single kid in his recruiting class from the Northeast.

 

[rutgersal]

Al, has anyone ever told you nice guys finish last? You cannot take anything that occurred in 1.0 as merit of anything that has happened since 2.0 took over. You have to look at the tenures as though they are 2 different coaches.

Our defense is average. We finished with the 38th ranked defense in the country, that ain’t elite Al… it not bad but you are building it up like it’s this elite unit because of how inept the offense is. Middle of the pack big ten teams have no problem marching up and down the field on us.

Until you and others still hanging onto 2006 can realize that the game is completely different, we stand no chance. Unfortunately man, you are looking at this tenure with far too much emotion.

Al, we both want Rutgers to win, it can happen as well, but not with a coach unwilling to accept any responsibility. This new version of Greg is not the same man who was coaching when I was a student. That guy never made excuses and never hid from anything. This Greg is still blaming what he inherited 3 years ago with a roster that’s been turned over…

none of this matters. what matters is, where we are, and where we're going.

The defense is competitive but is hampered by an ineffective offense. Kids at this level get tired and fatigued when they're forced to be out on the field for an extended period of time. This affects their tackling. Teams like Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State run the ball especially well, so it's important for us to do likewise.

Our biggest problem is the lack of talent on the offensive side of the ball.
The talent brought in from last year and this years class will ultimately help Rutgers field a Good Offense. Isn't going to happen right away, but I can now see the light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[jsol_05]

If Greg (or any coach for that matter) can get RU to a consistent 7-5/8-4 team with 6-6 and 5-7 years mixed in 1/3 of the time and a 4-8 once every 8-10 years, that may be the ceiling in the B1G, especially with USC joining. Penn State was excellent this year, and they could not beat the tOSU or Michigan.

That is our reality. Just ask Indiana. 24 years of not having a winning regular season record until 2019. Two 8 win seasons since 1993. Big Ten member since 1953. Heck, they have been at it so long, Lee Corso was their coach there, and not a very good one. What makes people think RU, given their history, will turn into some perennial winner.

Or even Purdue (yes, in the West, but the divisions are supposedly going away)--how long did it take them to get to 8-4? Nine years after Hazell was hired. It took Brohm 5 years to get there. And he "only" went 8-5 this year.

With the talent in our area we should expect y to do better then 500 or 1 game over 500. We need a young coach

 

[rutgersal]

Al, that’s nonsense. Colorado was a 1 win PAC 12 team last year. Their boosters weren’t buying anyone. The excuse making for Greg is getting pathetic man.

You're telling me Travis Hunter didn't get paid!!!! Come on Man!!! Open your eyes!! Every 4 and 5 star is interested in Deion because they're looking to get PAID!!!

 

[yessir321]

You're telling me Travis Hunter didn't get paid!!!! Come on Man!!! Open your eyes!! Every 4 and 5 star is interested in Deion because they're looking to get PAID!!!

I’m telling you if prime came to Rutgers, the nil money would be there for hunter to come to Rutgers

 

[mdk01]

I’m telling you if prime came to Rutgers, the nil money would be there for hunter to come to Rutgers

From who??

 

[yessir321]

From who??

Barstool sports and a slew of major businesses in NYC. Not even private donors. Prime in NYC? Oh my god companies would jump all over it.

 

[mdk01]

Barstool sports and a slew of major businesses in NYC. Not even private donors. Prime in NYC? Oh my god companies would jump all over it.

Prime can't pay Hunter, and I'm not sure what the NCAA would think about a joint appearance with a skewed payout. So Deion gets his 5.9 but Hunter gets much bigger deals elsewhere.

 

[yessir321]

Prime can't pay Hunter, and I'm not sure what the NCAA would think about a joint appearance with a skewed payout. So Deion gets his 5.9 but Hunter gets much bigger deals elsewhere.

Jesus Christ man prime wouldn’t be paying him.

Hunter went to Jackson State to play for prime, you really think he wasn’t following him? Really??? No need to be so dense

 

[RCBeta79]

Greg Schiano would leave Rutgers before being fired.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Greg Schiano would leave Rutgers before being fired.

Satterfield did that this year. He was on shaky ground at the start of the season but he probably won enough to save himself for another year. Instead of going through another iffy year, he jumped ship to Cincy and is starting a fresh again.

 

[yessir321]

none of this matters. what matters is, where we are, and where we're going.

The defense is competitive but is hampered by an ineffective offense. Kids at this level get tired and fatigued when they're forced to be out on the field for an extended period of time. This affects their tackling. Teams like Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State run the ball especially well, so it's important for us to do likewise.

Our biggest problem is the lack of talent on the offensive side of the ball.
The talent brought in from last year and this years class will ultimately help Rutgers field a Good Offense. Isn't going to happen right away, but I can now see the light at the end of the tunnel.

And yet here you are refusing to acknowledge what led to that inept offense. We just lost our top 3 receivers Al, we don’t have a TE, the O line is atrocious, you are counting on a group of 3 stars with no offers from good P5 programs to all the sudden be the solution to our line….

Al, the excuse making for Greg has to stop. There’s no ‘goodwill’ left. That got burned last year. Enough is enough Al, either Greg can do it, or he can’t. This year has to be a bowl

 

[Shelby65]

Greg Schiano would leave Rutgers before being fired.

Highly doubt it. He’ll preach ‘keep choppin’ long past that catchphrase jumps the shark and will continue to fool the suckers with ‘15 year rebuild’ nonsense rhetoric.

 

[fluoxetine]

I mean what Al is saying is correct in one sense. Schiano failed with the offense the last three years, that’s not up for debate. But firing him out of spite is not the answer; if he turns it around and starts showing progress then fine.

The part I take issue with is the hand wringing about the schedule (it’s tough boo hoo) and this odd insistence that Rutgers is somehow handicapped in ways completely unheard of at other power 5 programs. This is bullshit

 

[fluoxetine]

Realistically there’s no way he’s making it more than five years without significant progress. It’s not completely implausible that you could make significant progress and still go 5-7 I guess, but it would need to be a 5-7 where we are at least in like the top 60 in something like Sagarin ratings.

 

[NickKnight 1]

I hate to admit it but I think you are correct. 5 years from now we will still be making excuse for why GS can’t get it done

Five years from now, if Greggie wants, the job
is his as long the his money backing is still there. This last time around they announced
he was no longer in the run, the money boys
took over and we got stuck with him again, there wasn't
a school in this country that wanted him, and
when Tennesee wanted him. their minds were changed mighty fast.