I rinse oranges and bananas under cold water, then let them sit a few days before peeling and eating.
That OK?
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I rinse oranges and bananas under cold water, then let them sit a few days before peeling and eating.
That OK?
I have cash from the bank from 10 days ago, haven't touched it since.
Should be ok now if I have to use it?
Dude come on..just wash your hands after touching cash
Had never heard of this one - going to see a lot of announcements like this in coming weeks about drug treatments being carried out under emergency investigational new drug applications. Some promising, but very small scale results with leronlimab (CCR5 antagonist - I worked on one of those years ago and I bet the old ones are being pulled off the shelves all over pharma) in
Leronlimab Used in Seven Patients with Severe COVID-19 Demonstrated Promise with Two Intubated Patients in ICU, Removed from ICU and Extubated with Reduced Pulmonary Inflammation
VANCOUVER, Washington, March 27, 2020 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- CytoDyn Inc. (OTC.QB: CYDY), (“CytoDyn” or the “Company"), a late-stage biotechnology company developing leronlimab (PRO 140), a CCR5 antagonist with the potential for multiple therapeutic indications, announced today the three-day results post-leronlimab treatment of the first four patients under an Emergency Investigational New Drug (EIND) granted by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). A total of seven patients have been enrolled thus far under EIND in the same leading medical center in the New York City area.
https://www.cytodyn.com/newsroom/pr...b-used-in-seven-patients-with-severe-covid-19
Leronlimab Used in Seven Patients with Severe COVID-19 Demonstrated Promise with Two Intubated Patients in ICU, Removed from ICU and Extubated with Reduced Pulmonary Inflammation
VANCOUVER, Washington, March 27, 2020 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- CytoDyn Inc. (OTC.QB: CYDY), (“CytoDyn” or the “Company"), a late-stage biotechnology company developing leronlimab (PRO 140), a CCR5 antagonist with the potential for multiple therapeutic indications, announced today the three-day results post-leronlimab treatment of the first four patients under an Emergency Investigational New Drug (EIND) granted by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). A total of seven patients have been enrolled thus far under EIND in the same leading medical center in the New York City area.
https://www.cytodyn.com/newsroom/pr...b-used-in-seven-patients-with-severe-covid-19
All the doctors ive seen on tv say that thoroughly washing them is fine..your risk is extremely low
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/do-not-wash-fruits-vegetables-with-soap.html
You people are insane about washing your cash and mail. I see a typical Twilight Zone episode where are peeps are so set on being ultra germ free that they slip and end up getting sick. Like to see some of you guys wash pinepples.
But, but, but, Debbie Birx said we dont need masks. What say you Bac? You wanted to listen to the expert despite practical reasoning, remember?
I enjoy the fact, this dude isnt even referred to by his name..he is #s, numbers, or RU#. That's awesome..but not as awesome as the info he puts out for us. Thank you RU#.
Instant song of the year nomination. Hell, just name it song of the year right now. Man did I need to hear something funny today:
I dont believe anything coming out of China...their doctors in Italy arriving to cheers now..oh now the saviors
Actually watching his presser from this afternoon and he explains exactly this. A summation of his point on this:
We have been behind this thing from the get go, NYC's apex is 14-21 days from now, so by asking for ventilators now, he is trying to get ahead of this thing.
You don’t eat the skin of an orange or banana so I don’t think that should be much of a problem. You can peel an apple too but I just wash and scrub those down with water. The skin has all the healthy nutrients so I don’t want to peel it. Not fond of the idea of soap and food. Different soaps have different harshness too. Saw an article in nj.com not recommending it but I have seen others recommending it. It’s really only the stuff that might be eaten raw that should be any worry. If you’re going to cook said food it should be fine as that will kill the virus and whatever else.
Washing and other grocery recommendations are in the article.
From the article:
You should wash your fruits and veggies, but not with soap
Washing fresh fruits and vegetables is good advice all the time. But don’t use soap.
“Soap should absolutely not be used to wash food. It’s not designed for that. Soap can cause nausea, vomiting and diarrhea if ingested,” Schaffner said.
Rinsing fruits and vegetables with cold water before peeling them is best practice, the FDA says.
“You should always wash (fruits and vegetables), it’s not something new with this coronavirus,” Krummenacher said. "It can help clear away all types of viruses that live on food, not just the coronavirus.
There have been no studies done to see how long the coronavirus lives on fruits and vegetables, he said.
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020...-dont-leave-them-outside-nj-experts-warn.html
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It’s pretty easy to go cashless.
It’s the washing of groceries that’s a complete pain point for me personally.
I mean it’s only once a week, but if someone has a good idea, I’m always looking for ways to run the household more efficiently.
Not angry at all...I'm good, family is good. Two glasses of wine, a can of Magnify - Only a Spark...and I am copacetic. When people don't listen to practical advice but hedge their bets on an experts sitting behind a desk/podium that can be a problem. Even despite hard, empirical and practical evidence that disputes said expert. Now another expert (who's country appears to have corralled Covid-19) is disputing an expert who's country may get its ass handed to them very soon....who do ya believe now? Expert 1, or Expert 2 (plus the overwhelmingly vast majority of healthcare professionals who side with Expert 2)?
The Chinese dude echos what pretty much how any sane healthcare professional in the USA thinks.
I’ve said this before I’m a somewhat germphobe and even I can only go so far. It’s just too tiring frankly lol. I save my bandwidth for high traffic touch things like door knobs, grocery cart handles and remotes, etc. Those are all things I’ve done in the past before this and now I do with more frequency and I’ve added grocery now if it’s been delivered because of the gloves they use to handle. There’s really only so much I can do or I’ll go cuckoo haha. So I focus on certain aspects that I think are worthwhile and try my best but beyond that whatever happens happens. There’s a balance between risk/benefit and mental sanity lol.
Did we not care about swine flu? Why is this being treated different? We had the hospital beds to support swine flu but not this?
I don't really know the details, but was the demand for beds for Swine as high as they are going to be for this? And did we have the beds for all those that needed one?
From Wiki on Swine: It is estimated that in the 2009 flu pandemic 11–21% of the then global population (of about 6.8 billion), or around 700 million to 1.4 billion people, contracted the illness—more in absolute terms than the Spanish flu pandemic.
The disease then spread across the country's population and by the end of May had infected citizens in all 50 states. The pattern continued through June of the same year. The total number of confirmed cases varied from 27,717 (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) confirmed and probable cases) and 25,453 (total of all state confirmed cases) as of June 26, 2009.[122]
Towards the middle of June 2009, the number of US cases surpassed those of Mexico, which had been the previous leader in diagnosed cases of the disease. Toward the end of June 2009, the number of deaths related to the virus in the US surpassed those of all other countries as well.
On June 25, the CDC released information revealing that there were more than likely over one million (1,000,000) cases of the disease in the US, most of which had not been reported or diagnosed
Deaths relating to this new strain of influenza began appearing in the US in late April, and by early June, 15 states had reported fatalities related to or directly occurring from the virus. These deaths totaled at 4,000 as of November 15, 2009. (Later reaching 12,469 American deaths, as of 03/2020 according to the WHO). The CDC distributed a vaccine for the novel flu strain[125] using mechanisms already in place for its Vaccines for Children (VFC) program.[126]
Barack Obama being vaccinated on Dec. 20, 2009.
An official for the White House said on April 24 that "the White House is taking the situation seriously and monitoring for any new developments. The president has been fully briefed."[162] President Barack Obama stated that "We are closely monitoring the emerging cases of swine flu". He also noted, "This is obviously a cause for concern ... but it is not a cause for alarm".[163] President Obama suggested that U.S. schools should consider shutting down, as a future possibility, if their students were to become infected.
FAKE NEWS
The disease then spread across the country's population and by the end of May had infected citizens in all 50 states. The pattern continued through June of the same year. The total number of confirmed cases varied from 27,717 (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) confirmed and probable cases) and 25,453 (total of all state confirmed cases) as of June 26, 2009.[122]
Towards the middle of June 2009, the number of US cases surpassed those of Mexico, which had been the previous leader in diagnosed cases of the disease. Toward the end of June 2009, the number of deaths related to the virus in the US surpassed those of all other countries as well.
On June 25, the CDC released information revealing that there were more than likely over one million (1,000,000) cases of the disease in the US, most of which had not been reported or diagnosed
Deaths relating to this new strain of influenza began appearing in the US in late April, and by early June, 15 states had reported fatalities related to or directly occurring from the virus. These deaths totaled at 4,000 as of November 15, 2009. (Later reaching 12,469 American deaths, as of 03/2020 according to the WHO). The CDC distributed a vaccine for the novel flu strain[125] using mechanisms already in place for its Vaccines for Children (VFC) program.[126]
Barack Obama being vaccinated on Dec. 20, 2009.
An official for the White House said on April 24 that "the White House is taking the situation seriously and monitoring for any new developments. The president has been fully briefed."[162] President Barack Obama stated that "We are closely monitoring the emerging cases of swine flu". He also noted, "This is obviously a cause for concern ... but it is not a cause for alarm".[163] President Obama suggested that U.S. schools should consider shutting down, as a future possibility, if their students were to become infected.
FAKE NEWS
Everybody is clamoring for a vaccine but what about those anti vaxers are they going to get this one or not? Imagine how many flu deaths occur yearly... how many millions in the US become infected even with a vaccine... If you had family loved one who was going to possibly die from covid19 and the only drugs were the 2 being most discussed Hydroxychloroquine and Zithromicin would you ok their use ? The latest discussions by some politicians is they are not safe... not enough information...and don’t want them used... now that is a problem we all should aware of...
Respectfully disagree. I know soap can do that if not thoroughly rinsed off (which is why I said rinse very thoroughly), but I'd rather risk a little diarrhea than a little coronavirus, especially since we don't have any data on how long the virus can survive on specific fruits/vegetables and most people prefer eating them soon after buying them, which means there could be risk of touching a virus on the produce and then touching one's face and inhaling the virus. If one can wait 3 days (the longest documented time of "survival" of the virus in a controlled experiment, on plastic and stainless steel), then washing is very unlikely to be needed.
The micelle structure of soap with hydrophilic heads (water-loving) and hydrophoboic (water-hating) tails, causes the soap molecules to surround the lipid structure of the virus coat, pulling said coat apart and rupturing the protein of the virus, deactivating it. Soap has the same effect on many bacteria, which can also be an issue with produce, so I'll continue to wash with warm soapy water and rinse with copious amounts of warm water to solubilize the residual soap. Soap and water is also more effective than any hand sanitizer in destroying the viral lipid membrane coat. There are people who know more than some of the people who write things on blogs. Having said that, copious washing with warm water is probably enough to displace most of the surface associated viruses, but I'd rather be 100% sure.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/health/soap-coronavirus-handwashing-germs.html
Most scientific experts say rinse fruits and vegetables under running cold water. Not necessary to wash with soap ... actually soap will leave a film even with heavy rinse. When the next disease comes out of China let me know what their scientists think and the recommendations.
Waiting 3 days should be ok for any surface, including produce. As paranoid as I may be, there's a point beyond which it's likely silly to go further. I mean, it's not like any of us have portable scanning electron microscopes to look for residual viruses, lol...
Are you going to start arguing the intersection of chemistry and biology with me? You won't win.
Oddly enough, I've never been a germ-o-phobe. Generally washed my hands rarely, would eat food off the floor and just never worried about standard germs, since they're all around anyway and I rarely get sick with anything. This is light years different, due to the very high transmission rate of this virus and the serious to potentially deadly effects of it (likely ~10X more deadly than any typical flu). This is the first time I've ever worried about a virus or microbe and am taking far more precautions than I ever have for anything else and until there's a vaccine or effective treatment (antibodies should work, IMO), I will continue to live like this. It's tolerable for us and better than the alternative.
Try to keep up - I replied to that link and disagree with it.
Rinsing with water is way better than nothing, but I think soapy water with copious rinsing is even better. I was only saying that waiting 3 days should also be fine.
Thats your opinion..does not make you right. There are professionals saying otherwise. You are entitled to making your own risk assessments but don't try to come across that your way is the only way to go about it. People can certainly follow your recommendations to be on the safe said but also be aware people get scared when they see these recommendations.
I absolutely guarantee you that warm soapy water is better for coronavirus deactivation and removal from produce than simply rinsing with water, just like it is for hands and any other object that could have surface contamination. That is irrefutable science. However, there is a small risk of gastrointestinal issues from residual soap, which isn't trivial, but for me it's less of a risk than the virus and my risk tolerance is very, very low right now. I do not know exactly how much better it is, though - nobody does - hopefully the difference is small, but I know it's not zero.
Do not know if this was posted but this is a must watch. Dr. David Price who works at Weill Cornell Hospital in NYC. Very balanced and concise and alleviates some fears
Hands to your face...hands to your face..hands to your face
Become a Hand Nazi..walk with purell.
Mostly from sustained contact with someone with CoVid
Always know where hands are
Does recommend wearing a mask because you won't touch your face
Do not need a medical mask. N95 masks are for hospitals
Distance yourself in the store
some may think he is downplaying the aerosol risk of catching the virus, but this is a doctor, he is on the frontlines
Hands to your face...hands to your face..hands to your face
Become a Hand Nazi..walk with purell.
Mostly from sustained contact with someone with CoVid
Always know where hands are
Does recommend wearing a mask because you won't touch your face
Do not need a medical mask. N95 masks are for hospitals
Distance yourself in the store
some may think he is downplaying the aerosol risk of catching the virus, but this is a doctor, he is on the frontlines
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