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If it were that easily transmissible they'd be stacking bodies like cord wood in most of China.
You mean, like they're not doing in Italy, Spain, France, Iran, Ecuador, NYC?

Or like they weren't doing in Wuhan before they literally locked most of the population into their apartment complexes? They actually boarded and chained doors so no one could get out. Then they brought in portable crematoriums to deal with the dead bodies and medical waste. How many of those victims do you think were tested for coronavirus before they were cremated? Take the reported death total in Hubei and multiply by 10-100 and you're probably getting closer to the true death toll.

As for the rest of China, when they realized what was happening in Wuhan they instituted the kind of movement restrictions that only China could get away with. There were stay at home orders, extremely detailed/invasive contact tracing. People were arrested for being outside without a pass. So they were able to beat down the spread before it got out of control, you know, kind of like we should have been able to do with that month of lead time.
 
Summary of today's (4/2) presser by Cuomo - a little late...
  • 239K tested in NY/104K in NYC to date; 19K/8K tested yesterday in NY/NYC (vs. 15.7K/7.3K tested the day before in NY/NYC, a bit of a bump up.
  • 215K positive cases in the US (191K yesterday): 92.3K, 83.7K, 75.7K, 66.5K positives in NY the last 4 days, meaning 8.6K, 8.0K, 9.2K new cases the past three days in NY and 51.8K, 47.4K, 43.1K, 38.0K in NYC the last 4 days, meaning 4.4K, 4.3K, 5.1K new cases the past three days in NYC. Over the last 3 days new cases have leveled off in NY/NYC (good sign)
  • 5102 total deaths in the US (up 1049 from yesterday) and 2371 total deaths in NY, up 430 from yesterday (was up 391 two days ago); 537 deaths in NJ (267 yesterday)
  • Total of 13.4K currently hospitalized in NY (1200 new vs. 1300 new yesterday and 1400 new the day before) – leveling off?
  • Total of 3396 currently in ICU in NY, which means on ventilators, usually (3022 yesterday, so 374 new vs. 312 yesterday)
  • 7434 discharged from hospitals in NY (6142 as of yesterday, so 1292 discharged yesterday vs. 1167 the day before; good sign. Note that new hospitalization rate is only slightly more than discharge rate,which is very good news.
  • 215K cases in the US: over last 3 days here are the total cases for selected states: 83.9K/75.9K/67.3K in NY, 22.2K/18.7K/16.6K in NJ, 9800/8500/7200 in CA, 9300/7600/6500 in MI, 7700/6600/5800 in MA, 7800/ 6700/5700 in FL (5700 yesterday), 5800/5500/5200in WA (slowest growing state), 7000/60005100 in IL, 6400/5200/4000 in LA, 6000/5000/4100 in PA, and 4700/4100/3000 in GA.
  • Now saying apex 7-21 days away, which is sooner than they’ve been saying, which is good, since the peak would be lower than it has been projected so far. As I’ve said a few times, I think they’re almost at the apex now and think they’ll be there within a week (hospitalization apex; ICU apex could be a week later).
  • NY now centralizing total stockpile of inventory of hospital PPE/supplies, so hospitals that need items will get them faster (and excess inventories no longer being kept at individual hospitals).
  • 6 days worth of ventilators left; will go to doubling and using anesthesia machines and BIPAP machines should they run out; still scouring the world for ventilators
  • If you want to see true brotherly love (with some solid jabs at each other) watch the last 10 minutes of the video with the Gov and his little brother, Chris, who is holed up in his basement with coronavirus. Touching and funny.

Summary of today's (4/3) presser by Cuomo...
  • 260K tested in NY/113K in NYC to date; 22K/9K tested yesterday in NY/NYC (vs. 19K/8K tested the day before in NY/NYC, a slight bump up.
  • The Earth hit 1,000,000 positive cases yesterday, with 245K positive cases in the US (215K yesterday): 102.8K, 92.3K, 83.7K, 75.7K, 66.5K positives in NY the last 5 days, meaning 10.5K, 8.6K, 8.0K, 9.2K new cases the past four days in NY and 57.1K, 51.8K, 47.4K, 43.1K, 38.0K in NYC the last 5 days, meaning 5.3K, 4.4K, 4.3K, 5.1K new cases the past three days in NYC. Over the last week or so, new cases have leveled off in NY/NYC, but yesterday’s bump up is concerning (hopefully just a daily blip).
  • 6070 total deaths in the US (up 968 from yesterday) and 2935 total deaths in NY, up 562 from yesterday (was up 430 two days ago), so that is still growing, as expected, as deaths lag hospitalizations by at least a week or two; 539 deaths in NJ (537 yesterday)
  • Total of 14.8K currently hospitalized in NY (1400 new vs. 1200 new yesterday and 1300 new the day before); not clear if the bump up yesterday is meaningful or not.
  • Total of 3731 currently in ICU in NY, which means on ventilators, usually (3396 yesterday, so 335 new vs. 374 yesterday)
  • 8886 discharged from hospitals in NY (7434 as of yesterday, so 1452 discharged yesterday vs. 1292 the day before; good sign. Note that new hospitalization rate has been pretty close to the discharge rate for a few days, which is good news.
  • 245K cases in the US and over last 4 days here are the total cases for selected states: 102.8K/92.3K/83.9K/75.9K in NY, 25.6K/22.2K/18.7K/16.6K in NJ, 11,000/9800/8500/7200 in CA, 10,700/9300/7600/6500 in MI, 9000/7700/6600/5800 in MA, 9000/7800/ 6700/5700 in FL, 6600/5800/5500/5200in WA (slowest growing state, but bumped up yesterday), 7700/7000/6000/5100 in IL, 9200/6400/5200/4000 in LA (42% jump yesterday), 7000/6000/5000/4100 in PA, and 5400/4700/4100/3000 in GA.
  • Unbelievable to him that the US can’t make surgical masks, N95 respirators, gowns, faceshields, gloves, etc. – he showed how simple they are. Still major issues with ventilators – trying everything.
  • Every governor says this is a national disaster and need far more from the Federal Government, especially with supplies; peaks are occurring at different times, so in absence of more supplies, triage supplies in early areas and redeploy to later peaking states afterwards. Help NY now and NY will help others later.
  • With so little activity in NY, far less car accidents, other accidents and crime, as well as all elective procedures being postponed, so “baseline” hospitalization rates have gone down, which is helpful.
  • NY budget was passed at 3 am, but the State is broke, basically, and needs more Federal help.
 
I hope everyone reads what I am about to write: Do not go anywhere without a mask, gloves and hand sanitizer. Anywhere means grocery store, work if essential, post office, etc. If you only have one mask, there are ways you can sterilize it without ruining it. Ask if you do not know how and I will explain. If you do not have a mask you can make one that is better than nothing from some items that should be still available in your Walmart/Home Depot.

I would be curious about any methods you could share for sterilizing masks, even if just better than doing nothing. I have read some things like bake at 200 degrees for a little bit, but I'll probably start a fire. Just would be interested in anything you might have to share, if you have time. Thanks.
 
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I would be curious about any methods you could share for sterilizing masks, even if just better than doing nothing. I have read some things like bake at 200 degrees for a little bit, but I'll probably start a fire. Just would be interested in anything you might have to share, if you have time. Thanks.
Hopefully your oven can be set 175, if not 200 works but no more than that.

AGAIN WITH GAS OVEN MAKE SURE AFTER TEMP TURN OFF SO NO FLAME.

Gas Oven: WARNING you do not want to start a fire...set oven to 175. I strongly recommend an oven thermometer to make sure that your temp is at least 158 and no more than 200. When up to temperature turn off oven so no flame. Place mask in brown paper bag and quickly place inside and close to avoid losing heat. Bake for 30 mins.

Electric oven: set to 175. I strongly recommend an oven thermometer to make sure that your temp is at least 158 and no more than 200. When up to temperature put the mask in brown lunch bag and bake for 30 mins. In an electric you can leave oven on throughout process.

AGAIN WITH GAS OVEN MAKE SURE AFTER TEMP TURN OFF SO NO FLAME.

Steam would work for 10 mins at 212 (steam temp) but I do not know if steam affects masks effectiveness. The oven method has been shown to not effect integrity of mask.
 
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If you so not have a mask there are tons of online tutorials on how to make one. My recommendation would be to get an AC air filter by Filtrete that is rated for MPR 1900 or higher. If the the filters have MERV rating get Merv 13. You take apart filter and use as a layer in homemade mask. Check out here for ideas:



Her youtube channel has multiple DIY mask ideas
 
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What about a plain old clothing iron? Use a little steam and then use heat to dry it out.
 
What about a plain old clothing iron? Use a little steam and then use heat to dry it out.

You do not want to do anything to alter mask integrity if it is N95 mask. I have not seen data if steaming N95's changes their effectiveness.

Some information from a very recent study:

To find out the influence on the filtration mechanism of masks (N95 mask and medical surgical mask), five disinfection methods were compared: 1) oven dry heat disinfection, 2) alcohol spraying disinfection,3) steamer wet heat disinfection, 4) high temperature and high-pressure disinfection and 5) ultraviolet disinfection.

Oven dry heat disinfection


Dry heat disinfection (heating at 70 ℃ for 30 minutes) had the least effect on damaging the filtering mechanism, and the filtering effect could be maintained above 95%.

Alcohol spraying disinfection

The disinfection method of spraying alcohol on the mask will destroy the electrostatic absorption of the mask, causing filtering efficiency of the mask lowering below 95%.

Steamer wet heat disinfection/High temperature and high-pressure disinfection


Other methods such as steamer damp heat method and high-pressure high temperature sterilization methods also made the filtering efficiency of the mask lower than 95%. In addition, high temperature and high-pressure method makes the mask seriously deformed.

Ultraviolet disinfection

The new coronavirus is sensitive to ultraviolet rays, and ultraviolet disinfection does not affect the filtration efficiency of respirators. However, the inactivation effect of viruses in mask fibers, which cannot be directly observed, is unknown. Therefore, it is not recommended.
 
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I would be curious about any methods you could share for sterilizing masks, even if just better than doing nothing. I have read some things like bake at 200 degrees for a little bit, but I'll probably start a fire. Just would be interested in anything you might have to share, if you have time. Thanks.
I can't imagine why warm soapy water, i.e., a standard washer, wouldn't work for cloth surgical masks or cotton gowns. Maybe they won't stand up to repeated washings/dryings? As long as they do, they'll likely still serve their main purpose of "keeping germs in" (their utility in keeping germs out is less well established).

N95 masks, which protect health care workers from infected patients, are more complex and any virus deactivation procedure has to be evaluated also for filtration impact for protection. The best solution right now appears to be vapor phase hydrogen peroxide, which is not something to do at home. Simple heat at about 160F for 30 minutes will deactivate viruses, but could possibly impact the ability of the respirator to filter out incoming air properly. The link below has some useful info.

https://www.livescience.com/sanitizing-medical-masks-for-reuse-coronavirus.html
 
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Hopefully your oven can be set 175, if not 200 works but no more than that.

AGAIN WITH GAS OVEN MAKE SURE AFTER TEMP TURN OFF SO NO FLAME.

Gas Oven: WARNING you do not want to start a fire...set oven to 175. I strongly recommend an oven thermometer to make sure that your temp is at least 158 and no more than 200. When up to temperature turn off oven so no flame. Place mask in brown paper bag and quickly place inside and close to avoid losing heat. Bake for 30 mins.

Electric oven: set to 175. I strongly recommend an oven thermometer to make sure that your temp is at least 158 and no more than 200. When up to temperature put the mask in brown lunch bag and bake for 30 mins. In an electric you can leave oven on throughout process.

AGAIN WITH GAS OVEN MAKE SURE AFTER TEMP TURN OFF SO NO FLAME.

Steam would work for 10 mins at 212 (steam temp) but I do not know if steam affects masks effectiveness. The oven method has been shown to not effect integrity of mask.

Thank you very much for the very useful and detailed information. I appreciate the how by how on the oven method. I didn't realize this could actually be a helpful method. Of course with my naivete, I would have left the oven on. Appreciate it!
 
I can't imagine why warm soapy water, i.e., a standard washer, wouldn't work for cloth surgical masks or cotton gowns. Maybe they won't stand up to repeated washings/dryings? As long as they do, they'll likely still serve their main purpose of "keeping germs in" (their utility in keeping germs out is less well established).

N95 masks, which protect health care workers from infected patients, are more complex and any virus deactivation procedure has to be evaluated also for filtration impact for protection. The best solution right now appears to be vapor phase hydrogen peroxide, which is not something to do at home. Simple heat at about 160F for 30 minutes will deactivate viruses, but could possibly impact the ability of the respirator to filter out incoming air properly. The link below has some useful info.

https://www.livescience.com/sanitizing-medical-masks-for-reuse-coronavirus.html

Thank you for the link and the useful information. We have some surgical masks, as my wife works at a hospital and we had them from a while back, unused though. They get issued one mask a day now at the hospital when they come in and everyone got one set of goggles to use and reuse.
I have just a couple leftover N95 masks that I got last summer, as we got them for emptying and redoing a couple houses for 3 relatives that had passed away. Thanks again.
 
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If you so not have a mask there are tons of online tutorials on how to make one. My recommendation would be to get an AC air filter by Filtrete that is rated for MPR 1500 or higher. If the the filters have MERV rating get Merv 13. You take apart filter and use as a layer in homemade mask. Check out here for ideas:



Her youtube channel has multiple DIY mask ideas
need to be careful with the AC and HEPA filter materials. a lot of them are made of fiberglass. don't want to breathe those particles in either.
 
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need to be careful with the AC and HEPA filter materials. a lot of them are made of fiberglass. don't want to breathe those particles in either.
Why I recommended Filtrete.

3M Filtrete filters contain electrostatically charged filter media made of polypropylene and polyolefin plastic. Polypropylene is a commonly used material for N95 masks.
 
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Obviously, I hope the plasma approach works, heavens knows we need any therapy that works. However, I will categorize this under the "I'll believe it when I see it" bucket. Allogeneic therapy has always been very very difficult to pull off. Dustin Hoffman made it look easy but that's the movies.

Also, I am not sure that people's resistance to this virus could be simplified by just the presence of a specific antibody. That's over simplifying the human's immune response system. I am not sure people should be assuming that after they get exposed to this virus and their immune system fought it off, that they are "scott free" and can return to normal activity. The science is too early to know if a person who fought off the virus could later on have problems when their immunity is depressed, for whatever reason. Again I hope I'm wrong.

Speaking of genetic make up, I was talking to a front line physician the other day and he explained that it is incredible the variance in terms of how people are affected by this virus. For some it is almost nothing, but for others (thankfully, so far, it's the minority) it is absolutely devastating. He was almost wondering if there is a physiological profile that is yet to be determined. Similar to BRCA and breast cancer for example. Perhaps there is a specific gene mutation present in certain people that makes them vulnerable to this virus. If we could find out what that profile is, we could identify who the high risk folks are and help control the carnage. One hypothesis I have heard is epithelial cell abnormality and degradation. Epithelial cells naturally degrades with age, I suppose correlating the virus impact with age.

In the meantime though, small molecule and easy to produce, remdesivir study ends today and analysis follows. Hopefully good news in a few days. Fingers crossed.

Getting back to remdesivir, let's hope the unblinding brings good news. Also just read that the UK is sponsoring phase III trials with remdesivir.

https://www.pmlive.com/pharma_news/...virus_hopeful_remdesivir_begins_in_uk_1334307

Lots of other good pharma tidbits in this link...

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma...e-than-6-000-cases-track-pharma-response-here
 
Gonna be great to see how fast vaccines can be pushed through without all the red tape.
What do you think is the best case scenario for a vaccine timeline if they push for it as fast as possible? Maybe end of this year, even though it would usually take longer.
Maybe @RU848789 has an idea also..
 
What do you think is the best case scenario for a vaccine timeline if they push for it as fast as possible? Maybe end of this year, even though it would usually take longer.
Maybe @RU848789 has an idea also..

I was betting on a vaccine being available, at least for high risk people, by end of year. The article posted above confirms that. If early results are positive, this thing will move fast.
 
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I keep hearing about states buying masks that cost under $1 for $7. How is this not gouging?
 
Gonna be great to see how fast vaccines can be pushed through without all the red tape.
I agree under the circumstances until some of the side effects become a bigger problem than the condition its trying to resolve.

Great thing is that there are groups working on the same problem world wide.

GO RU
 
Getting back to remdesivir, let's hope the unblinding brings good news. Also just read that the UK is sponsoring phase III trials with remdesivir.

https://www.pmlive.com/pharma_news/...virus_hopeful_remdesivir_begins_in_uk_1334307

Lots of other good pharma tidbits in this link...

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma...e-than-6-000-cases-track-pharma-response-here


Because of the high demand for compassionate use, they opened up 6 locations here, 3 in NY and 3 in NJ for patients to enroll in the amended and expanded clinical study protocol.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04323761?cond=remdesivir&draw=2&rank=4
 
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Also, the virus thrives in temperatures between 55-80 degrees

So, it may be better to have really cold temps rather than warm?

Viruses typically maintain activity on surfaces for a few days at cool temps (<50F) and even up to room temp, but that activity decreases with an increase in temperature, becoming quickly deactivated above about 85F, which is well above "room temperature" (65-70F normally). This is from Dr. Nicholls a pathology professor at the U of Hong Kong and has not been published; very little has on temperature sensitivity of CV2, but these numbers are fairly consistent with other coronavirus numbers.

Regarding temperatures, Nicholls said the warmer the better for stopping the spread of the virus, according to the transcript of the conference call.

"The virus can remain intact at 4 degrees (39 degrees Fahrenheit) or 10 degrees (50 F) for a longer period of time," Nicholls said, referring to Celsius measurements, according to the transcript. "But at 30 degrees (86 degrees F) then you get inactivation. And high humidity -- the virus doesn't like it either," he added, the transcript of the call showed.


https://www.accuweather.com/en/heal...will-burn-itself-out-in-about-6-months/679415

Note that most experts say one needs temps above about 140F (some will say above 160F) for total deactivation of the virus (or any virus really) in very short periods (like 15 min).
 
Gonna be great to see how fast vaccines can be pushed through without all the red tape.
I don't look at it as red tape at all. The procedures are in place because one needs large enough clinical trials to show safety and efficacy in a statistically meaningful way. Just imagine going ahead with vaccinating the country/world with a vaccine that has a serious side effect in only 0.1% (1 in 1000) of the population or 3MM people in the US. That's far in excess of the expected ~100K deaths (and maybe 500K serious hospitalizations) in the US from the virus.

We need serious side effects to occur in probably <0.001% of people (1 in 100,000 or 30,000 people in the US) for the vaccine to be considered safe. I'm guessing here a bit, based on the fact that most major childhood vaccines (MMR/polio/DTP) have serious side effects in less than 1 in 1,000,000 people. And to determine the rate of side effects, typical previous vaccines had phase III trials with 10,00-80,000 patients.

And the risk-benefit math will be hugely impacted over the next 3-4 months by whether or not any of the ongoing treatment trials with old drugs, mostly, or the plasma-antibody treatment look promising. If any of them do look good, the appetite for higher than normal vaccine risk will be low. So, I doubt we'll see any new vaccine on the market before about next Jan/Feb. Maybe a few months earlier, at most, for high risk populations in an emergency use scenario should we make no progress on any treatments. Of course, that's all just my somewhat informed opinion...

https://vaccine-safety-training.org/rates-of-adverse-vaccine-reactions.html

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3551877/
 
There are many "immigrants" from Ecuador in my area. A few weeks ago, none of them were wearing masks. The Spanish grocery stores weren't crushed at all.

Now all they are all wearing masks. I was wondering what brought the change about and then I saw how bad things were in Ecuador
 
What about a plain old clothing iron? Use a little steam and then use heat to dry it out.

using alcohol would seem to me to turn your mask into a device to huff alcohol

what about a rice cooker/steamer?

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2020/02/15/2003731027

Dry steaming masks for three minutes using a rice cooker can kill up to 99.7 percent of germs, he said, adding that this method lowered the mask’s filter quality by the least — about 10 percent.

Soaking masks in alcohol or bleach for 10 minutes could lower their filter quality to 70 to 80 percent, he said, adding that the study was published in Indoor Air in 2018.

Lai said he also conducted a study using surgical masks and found that dry steaming them using a rice cooker was also more efficient than using alcohol or high-pressure sterilization.

Dry steaming the same mask five times gradually reduced its filter efficiency to 10 percent, he said.

When heating a mask, do not place it at the bottom of the cooker, where temperatures are high, he said, advising people to use a rack to support the inner pot containing the mask.

Masks can only be sterilized and reused if they have not been used in a hospital, do not contain too much saliva or other bodily fluids and are not damaged, he added.

A mask’s filter efficiency needs to be more than 80 percent to qualify, he said.

Asked about the tests, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said that spraying alcohol or high-temperature drying might damage the structure of masks and affect their protective effect.

FDA researcher Wang Chao-yi (王兆儀) said that she had not seen the test data on high-

temperature drying and, as such, could not say whether the method was appropriate.

The FDA only reviews and approves masks for one-time use, she said.

Wang reminded people who are healthy that they do not need to wear masks in outdoor places or places with good ventilation, while people with chronic illnesses or respiratory symptoms and those who are visiting hospitals should wear masks.​
 
One more post tonight partially in honor of Worldometers adding testing data, which is great; now they just need to add columns for percent growth rate in cases and deaths per 1M. In comparing countries, looking at data normalized on a per capita basis is the only way to compare apples to apples for the most part. When looking at that, the US doesn't look nearly as bad as the worst countries, like Italy and Spain or even France and several other European countries.

However, most of those countries are further along in their outbreaks and are seeing deaths per day leveling off, while our deaths per day are still climbing significantly - we had 1321 deaths yesterday, but if we stay under 2000 per day, we'll remain at less than half the per capita death rate of Italy and Spain. That's the glass half-full perspective and in that scenario one could imagine seeing 40-50K US deaths (and ~5X that many serious cases) before we're into a decline in maybe 3-4 weeks. The glass half empty view is if we do even worse, reaching Italy/Spain numbers and maybe ending up with 80-100K or more deaths before we're well into a decline.

No matter what though, as many of us have been saying since late February we look absolutely horrible against South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Japan and a few others (and China, but I still don't trust their numbers), but South Korea is the most painful example, since we saw them have a major outbreak in late February and largely control it by early March and the playbook was obvious and fairly similar to China's without the draconian lockdown, featuring aggressive early testing, aggressive contact tracing/quarantining, and aggressive social distancing and mask wearing in public. If we had followed SK's model and ended up obtaining similar results of 3 deaths per 1M or even double that, we could have ended up with 1000-2000 deaths (although SK can't claim total victory until there is a cure/vaccine, as they could always have a major relapse, but I doubt it). And that makes me really sad and angry.

Numerous public health experts in the US knew that's what we should be pursuing, but our leadership failed at every turn, particularly on fixing the testing problem in mid-February and doing nothing to prepare our health care system for the coming onslaught (and yes, it was a bipartisan debacle 20 years in the making, but we should have started doing far more over a month ago). Instead the POTUS downplayed the coming epidemic and the Administration failed to do much beyond the travel ban on 2/2 (after 300K Chinese had traveled to the US in January). I love the technical and pharma innovations we're seeing (enabled by suspending FDA regs by the Administration), but so far we have no good treatments in place (despite claims to the contrary - if we had something great, our death rates would be lower given the numbers on HCQ); my guess is our one medical hope in the next 1-2 months is the antibody-plasma therapy that's underway with some very promising early results and maybe that could pay off soon if the promise is confirmed. It's about to get really bumpy now/soon, though...

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

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using alcohol would seem to me to turn your mask into a device to huff alcohol

what about a rice cooker/steamer?

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2020/02/15/2003731027

Dry steaming masks for three minutes using a rice cooker can kill up to 99.7 percent of germs, he said, adding that this method lowered the mask’s filter quality by the least — about 10 percent.

Soaking masks in alcohol or bleach for 10 minutes could lower their filter quality to 70 to 80 percent, he said, adding that the study was published in Indoor Air in 2018.

Lai said he also conducted a study using surgical masks and found that dry steaming them using a rice cooker was also more efficient than using alcohol or high-pressure sterilization.

Dry steaming the same mask five times gradually reduced its filter efficiency to 10 percent, he said.

When heating a mask, do not place it at the bottom of the cooker, where temperatures are high, he said, advising people to use a rack to support the inner pot containing the mask.

Masks can only be sterilized and reused if they have not been used in a hospital, do not contain too much saliva or other bodily fluids and are not damaged, he added.

A mask’s filter efficiency needs to be more than 80 percent to qualify, he said.

Asked about the tests, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said that spraying alcohol or high-temperature drying might damage the structure of masks and affect their protective effect.

FDA researcher Wang Chao-yi (王兆儀) said that she had not seen the test data on high-

temperature drying and, as such, could not say whether the method was appropriate.

The FDA only reviews and approves masks for one-time use, she said.

Wang reminded people who are healthy that they do not need to wear masks in outdoor places or places with good ventilation, while people with chronic illnesses or respiratory symptoms and those who are visiting hospitals should wear masks.​

Given the longest documented virus viability timeframe on surfaces is 72 hours (the longer times quoted in some places were not "viable" viruses, just shards of viruses), one very low tech way to approach this would be to have 3 or 4 masks and rotate them such that one is always using a mask >72 hours after use and if one wanted to be a little bit more sure of it being safe, an hour or so in an oven at 140F would work, and likely not impact the performance of the mask (this is for surgical masks; N95 respirators likely more sensitive to heat with regard to performance, but then again only hospital workers should need the N95 respirators).
 
Our neighbor from a few doors down passed away a few days ago from COVID-19. He was 83 with underlying conditions. A sweetheart of a guy, who was a huge Rutgers sports fan. By pure chance, he sat in the row in front of me in 206 at the RAC for ~15 years before he couldn't get to his seat a few years back (had MD). RIP my friend.
 
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Red tape is not a bad thing. I am no we want a cure, but there is no way in hell I am putting something in my body that I don’t know Is safe. Especially if I know anyone in this administration is involved with any of the decisions.

If it weren’t from red tape we’d have the virus and most likely a complete failure in the banking system. We’d probably have 2007-09 and today wrapped up as one. Red tape is why the banks are strong now.
 
One more post tonight partially in honor of Worldometers adding testing data, which is great; now they just need to add columns for percent growth rate in cases and deaths per 1M. In comparing countries, looking at data normalized on a per capita basis is the only way to compare apples to apples for the most part. When looking at that, the US doesn't look nearly as bad as the worst countries, like Italy and Spain or even France and several other European countries.

However, most of those countries are further along in their outbreaks and are seeing deaths per day leveling off, while our deaths per day are still climbing significantly - we had 1321 deaths yesterday, but if we stay under 2000 per day, we'll remain at less than half the per capita death rate of Italy and Spain. That's the glass half-full perspective and in that scenario one could imagine seeing 40-50K US deaths (and ~5X that many serious cases) before we're into a decline in maybe 3-4 weeks. The glass half empty view is if we do even worse, reaching Italy/Spain numbers and maybe ending up with 80-100K or more deaths before we're well into a decline.

No matter what though, as many of us have been saying since late February we look absolutely horrible against South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Japan and a few others (and China, but I still don't trust their numbers), but South Korea is the most painful example, since we saw them have a major outbreak in late February and largely control it by early March and the playbook was obvious and fairly similar to China's without the draconian lockdown, featuring aggressive early testing, aggressive contact tracing/quarantining, and aggressive social distancing and mask wearing in public. If we had followed SK's model and ended up obtaining similar results of 3 deaths per 1M or even double that, we could have ended up with 1000-2000 deaths (although SK can't claim total victory until there is a cure/vaccine, as they could always have a major relapse, but I doubt it). And that makes me really sad and angry.

Numerous public health experts in the US knew that's what we should be pursuing, but our leadership failed at every turn, particularly on fixing the testing problem in mid-February and doing nothing to prepare our health care system for the coming onslaught (and yes, it was a bipartisan debacle 20 years in the making, but we should have started doing far more over a month ago). Instead the POTUS downplayed the coming epidemic and the Administration failed to do much beyond the travel ban on 2/2 (after 300K Chinese had traveled to the US in January). I love the technical and pharma innovations we're seeing (enabled by suspending FDA regs by the Administration), but so far we have no good treatments in place (despite claims to the contrary - if we had something great, our death rates would be lower given the numbers on HCQ); my guess is our one medical hope in the next 1-2 months is the antibody-plasma therapy that's underway with some very promising early results and maybe that could pay off soon if the promise is confirmed. It's about to get really bumpy now/soon, though...

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

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Why in every recap are you bringing your political bullshit into these threads

You provide alot here and it appears you are copying this post to different places but please edit the constant blame game politics because when others bring stuff it immediately gets removed

Thanks
 
#s. Appreciate all the data, information and sober analysis you bring [along with others] to this thread. It’s a daily must read for me. Most recognize that the more testing that occurs the better identification of the segment of population that needs medical attention or needs to be separated from the greater population; and which segment is now immune and can go about their lives.

Question: What are your thoughts on reports that some testing is producing false negatives (1 in 3)? And whether the quality, manner and volume of testing we’re beginning to see will diminish the inaccuracies of test results?

Thanks again.

GO RU
 
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