The dumbest thing you just posted was the story on bleach. How many idiots do it every year..any year
Stop trying to create a narrative here..another low for you
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The dumbest thing you just posted was the story on bleach. How many idiots do it every year..any year
Stop trying to create a narrative here..another low for you
AUG 2019 article on bleach drinking
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People are still drinking bleach—and vomiting and pooping their guts out
The “Church of Bleach” is still strong, despite years of warnings.
www.google.com
Go Big Pharma!
www.cnbc.com
AstraZeneca starts trial of coronavirus antibody treatment
The British drugmaker's Covid-19 vaccine candidate is already among the most advanced.
If anyone ever doubted the stupidity of some Americans, never fear, they're still here. If it weren't so sad and dangerous I'd be tempted to laugh, as I just never thought I'd see something like this.
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Don’t drink bleach: Texas Poison Center Network getting 100s of calls about ingesting cleaning products
Data shows across the state, 278 calls were received about ingesting bleach among people 30-years and older between March 1 to June 5. More than three hundred calls were about children 5 years or y…www.kxan.com
Problem in Georgia as well. So much so the Kemp administration needed to send out a warning.
“Chlorine dioxide products have not been shown to be safe and effective for any use including treatment of COVID-19,” said a statement from the governor’s office.
Reports of Georgians using disinfectants for COVID-19 prompts governor warning
ATLANTA — Gov. Brian Kemp’s office is warning Georgians not to ingest the bleach-like chemical chlorine dioxide following reports of people using the cleaning substance in an attempt to treat COVID-19. The warning came Monday after state public-health officials received reports of people...
Murphy's social media accounts publicized this on 7/18 and 7/19. It'd take me too long to scroll back a month to prove it but I assure you it is there. They reported two sub-200 days, and colored it with "this may be due to a reporting issue." I think the Monday following these dates they said it in the press conference too. The NYT article touting a "surge of cases in NJ because of house parties" mentioned the possibility of a reporting lag, buried deep in the article.Not sure what you're asking about. I addressed your original questions early Saturday about how Rt was calculated and showed that the UK model did not always show a higher Rt than the Rt-live site - it's just that it's more sensitive to changes than the Rt-live site, which I prefer, while you may not. I've also never "mocked" Rt-live and not sure why you said I did.
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Whine? I Report positive news. You hope for bad news. Why? I don't root for bad news at all. "Good news" is all relative these days, tho. You whine about restaurants and gyms every day, no matter what. You think that's having an impact? It's just a pretty weak look. Take a long weekend -...rutgers.forums.rivals.com
Edit: @DJ Spanky - hey, just curious, the text one sees when looking at the post of mine I linked above is actually from multiple other posts by other people, (including one from King of S at 1:44 pm on Friday and fsg's follow-up to that post a few hours later), not from my post, but if you click on the post link, it does bring you to my post. Thought that was really weird - any explanation?
The twitter thread you posted isn't very helpful in explaining your point, although I'll admit I don't use Twitter much so maybe I'm missing something - all I see is Kurt talking about how deaths are reported in the UK. You've mentioned reporting errors, as did Murphy.
Do you have confirmation that numbers around 7/20, which were a local minimum, and numbers by the end of July, which were a local maximum, were due purely to reporting errors with regard to timing? It's one thing to hear that there were reporting issues (which there have been throughout the pandemic, as it's hard, in the midst of chaos to always get the data correct) and another to know exactly what happened.
If you're right, then yeah, Murphy shouldn't have used rising numbers and a rising Rt as justification for adding restrictions, although he wasn't making things up about a spate of well-publicized incidents of really bad behaviors around the state.
Regardless, looking at the case numbers and the transmission numbers now from both Rt sites, it certainly seems like NJ could be at least incrementally reopening things to, say, NY's level. And Murphy said so much today. I also don't buy the "power trip" angle at all - I just think he truly doesn't want to see us slip back like so many other places have - and it's certainly not something that's making him more popular.
Gov. Murphy Suggests Reopening Gyms, Indoor Dining On Horizon In New Jersey
Dining out in New Jersey, one of the slowest states in the country to reopen, still means dining outside. There's now a glimmer of hope.newyork.cbslocal.com
Look, you are the expert in this thread and I am genuinely asking you to read the responses in that Twitter thread. Imperial Rt Model was made by epidimiologists, and Rt was made by an Instagram alum. I get it, the credentials of the former supercede the latter. But someone points out in that twitter thread:
"http://Rt.live actually re-computes the entire curve each time it runs a model. So is doing a “best fit” of the full-time series, which fixes this issue. They also adjust for testing levels. NJ does none of that. Would be better if they did. "
So besides the credentials of the modelers, how do you respond to that comment, because to me it seems to make sense. NJ has a serious data reporting issue at these levels. A duplicate case, a reporting lag dump, or an out-of-state positive being incorrectly included in our numbers might not matter so much when we have 1,000+ cases a day, but when 25 incorrectly included cases can inflate the daily number by 10%, and Rt is calculated before those incorrectly included numbers are cleaned off the books, these reporting errors become much more significant.
So please tell me why this guy is wrong when he says Rt Live re-runs the model to address case accounting cleanups, making it a superior model.
Numbers I will also challenge you bigly on the idea that Rt was rising because "house parties were getting out of hand." The biggest one, the 700 person Air BNB banger in Jackson (or was it Alpine) happened AFTER the Quest lab data dump and subsequent false Rt rise to 1.53 in late July/early August. People throwing house parties either don't care about the governor's rules, or they don't even hear them. Not everybody is reading a thread like this once a day. Whatever happened over the summer...the governor's capacity restriction to 100 indoors didn't have an effect on teens and 20 somethings partying all summer let's be realistic.
I'm going to ask again, has anybody proven these Rt models with respect to Covid? Has anybody validated the data going into the model? We have a governor who is making decisions that greatly affect peoples lives seemingly based on these models (and politics) I would think it's important to understand how well developed these models are.
Here is a discussion on the modeling. I've pointed to one point into the video when one of the individuals talks about using the models in place of political leadership.
German Experiment Tests How The Coronavirus Spreads At A Concert
Researchers hope the study can provide insight as to how COVID-19 spreads in large stadiums — and how to prevent it.
www.npr.org
I never said the Rt was rising due to parties, bars, etc. - I said there were a spate of reports of such things in late July and it's understandable that the State was very concerned about those leading to significant flare-ups as we've seen countless times. I have no issue with his increased restrictions simply based on poor behaviors without Rt climbing, but that's me - we all have different opinions on what should be done, but we do agree that if the Rt increase was an artifact of reporting testing results then the Gov shouldn't use that as a reason to justify increased restrictions.
I doubt I'm any more expert on the Rt models than you are. I responded a few days ago on this. IMO, neither model is "wrong," but I prefer a model that gives less weight to old data, which Rt-live does compared to the UK model, which is why the UK model is more sensitive to fluctuations. Independent of whether there was a data dump issue or not, taken at face value, the Rt-live algorithm showed no change in RT when the 7-day avg doubled, which I think is a problem, whereas the UK model responded with a significant rise. I'd rather have the latter, even if it's a bit too sensitive (and if there was a data issue, fix that - that's not the model's fault).
You really should do a tiny bit of research before making dumb posts. Bleach ingestion incidents are way up in Texas according to a public health professional. My guess is you think this person is all part of a deep-state conspiracy. Much more likely due to stupid people following stupid advice from a certain authority figure.
Texas health officials issue warning after spike in people ingesting bleach to treat coronavirus
Texas poison centre has received 46 calls in August relating to bleach incidents
www.independent.co.uk
Some of those calls involved people having drunk bleach and citing coronavirus as the reason why they had done so, Ms Holloway said.
“We certainly are not used to seeing bleach ingestion, at least that frequently in such a short amount of time, and we do know in general this year compared to last we’re seeing a whole lot more of bleach exposures,” Cristina Holloway, the public health education manager at North Texas Poison Center, told NBC on Monday.
Ms Holloway blamed the media and misinformation on the internet for the spike in bleach incidents. Most of the cases were not severe, although 12 required medical attention, Ms Holloway added.
I think we would be in agreement, if New Jersey wasn't having obvious data reporting issues. They're in a tricky spot because if they backed up Rt 7 days ago so that reporting errors could be cleaned up before they were entered into the model, the utility of the metric decreases. So they are hedging between an old number or a corrupted number.
Posted on Saturday with some context as the article was a little confusing...German Experiment Tests How The Coronavirus Spreads At A Concert
Researchers hope the study can provide insight as to how COVID-19 spreads in large stadiums — and how to prevent it.
COVID-19 Pandemic: Transmissions, Deaths, Treatments, Vaccines, Interventions and More...
Brad - don’t bother. Bac has gone full Qanon did you hear that on MSDNC ?
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You really should do a tiny bit of research before making dumb posts. Bleach ingestion incidents are way up in Texas according to a public health professional. My guess is you think this person is all part of a deep-state conspiracy. Much more likely due to stupid people following stupid advice from a certain authority figure.
Texas health officials issue warning after spike in people ingesting bleach to treat coronavirus
Texas poison centre has received 46 calls in August relating to bleach incidents
Some of those calls involved people having drunk bleach and citing coronavirus as the reason why they had done so, Ms Holloway said.
“We certainly are not used to seeing bleach ingestion, at least that frequently in such a short amount of time, and we do know in general this year compared to last we’re seeing a whole lot more of bleach exposures,” Cristina Holloway, the public health education manager at North Texas Poison Center, told NBC on Monday.
Ms Holloway blamed the media and misinformation on the internet for the spike in bleach incidents. Most of the cases were not severe, although 12 required medical attention, Ms Holloway added.
please tell me who told people to take bleach..i will be waiting here
can wait until this board starts discussing longcovid...including the people who claim they had it, have lingering symptoms, but never tested positive for it or for antibodies
SIAP, but I wonder what this mutation means. It was found back in Jan/Feb, so it’s not like this just happened. Maybe it partially explains some of the symptom variation. Missed this in the Lancet last week.
medicalxpress.com
The mutation making SARS-CoV-2 milder
Like any other organism on the planet, the SARS-CoV-2 virus is prone to the natural genetic diversity that may arise from mutations. Since the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) hit the world, there have been fears that mutations could lead to more infectious or even...
the symptoms that mimic fibromyalgia, ya know the unexplained symptoms that plague people all the time..sure
Huge increase in fibro this year, it's the MSM convincing people they have symptoms they don't actually have. 5g coordinated with deep state.
Covid doesn't even actually exist. It's just the government's way of keeping us in line while tanking organized society.
You watch, bro...
Another excellent article from Derek Lowe today on what to expect when all the vaccine results start rolling in. It's likely going to be chaotic and unclear with some surprises and disappointments and hopefully some vaccine options that work at least reasonably well. The excerpt below captures this well, IMO. The other really critical thing he mentions later is how important data transparency is going to be - everyone is watching this and we need to do everything possible to share the full datasets on safety and efficacy.
blogs.sciencemag.org
To that point, here’s another possibility that’s quite possible: the Patchwork Quilt of Efficacy. What if we get a mixture of results, with Vaccine A being pretty good, but not in older patients, while Vaccine B seems better in that cohort but is harder to roll out for distribution, while Vaccine C showed more even results over various patient cohorts but is beaten by some other candidate in any particular one, while Vaccine D was strong but definitely had more adverse events. . .you see what I mean. I can easily imagine something like this happening, and the thing is, it’s not just going to drop all at once. We’re going to get those various results one after the other and will have to fit them into an unavoidably messy picture, adjusting our plans as more data points become available. Overall, I think it could be a serious mistake to declare a winning vaccine too early (unless something comes in just kicking coronavirus ass all over the field, which would frankly be fine), but telling everyone to wait while we see what the next ones bring is probably not going to go over well. There will be tremendous pressure to just start dosing people with anything that looks reasonable, and you can’t blame anyone for it.
Science | AAAS
blogs.sciencemag.org
To that point, here’s another possibility that’s quite possible: the Patchwork Quilt of Efficacy. What if we get a mixture of results, with Vaccine A being pretty good, but not in older patients, while Vaccine B seems better in that cohort but is harder to roll out for distribution, while Vaccine C showed more even results over various patient cohorts but is beaten by some other candidate in any particular one, while Vaccine D was strong but definitely had more adverse events. . .you see what I mean. I can easily imagine something like this happening, and the thing is, it’s not just going to drop all at once. We’re going to get those various results one after the other and will have to fit them into an unavoidably messy picture, adjusting our plans as more data points become available. Overall, I think it could be a serious mistake to declare a winning vaccine too early (unless something comes in just kicking coronavirus ass all over the field, which would frankly be fine), but telling everyone to wait while we see what the next ones bring is probably not going to go over well. There will be tremendous pressure to just start dosing people with anything that looks reasonable, and you can’t blame anyone for it.
I hope the Pfizer vaccine works out. The Oxford gives me anti-vaxxer vibes with it’s hacked chimp virus 😂
Reminds me of that Big Bang Theory episode....Serial Apist.
What questions are you asking Mr. woolhouse or are the questions only reserved for people who make decisions or arguments that you don't like?
Woolhouse is an expert, you are not. His input is valuable. People like him should be listened to. You be you, go hide in your basement
So woolhouse is an expert but Fauci isn't? All of the decisions you question have been made by experts yet you question them non-stop. We know why. You don't fool any of us, keep mowing. Fauci should be questioned but Berenson now that is an expert lmao.
Dude, you just got owned ... don't try to kiddie-shovel your way out.
You laud expert's credentials so long as that person agrees with you, but just as quickly dismiss credentials of those who don't.
And let's be honest here, most of your sources, even the "experts," have been fake news garbage. How many have apologized, retracted statements or deleted tweets again?
Dr. Drew ...lmao.
Hello Dr. Drew is a real doctor unlike your MSM frauds who just want us to use masks for control.
I swear that the nj.com writers read this board. They just posted a story on the Rt model. I didnt read it because its behind a paywall and Im not going to pay for their crap.
Antidepressants probably in the dumpster with a mail sorting machine
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