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Greg Schiano: Rutgers football is closing in on a time when fans can ‘plan their holiday trips around our bowls’

You hate his defensive philosophy? Really, I think his D when on point is pretty badass.

Offense? Ok maybe but are teams like Wisconsin or MSU successful with a similar one?
Without realizing it, you actually noted the problem. He doesn’t have roster (talent, size, depth) for the philosophy. We can’t play Wisconsin football. He scapegoated Gleeson, and now he hires the Minnesota OC who runs the same power offense.

He’s incapable of creativity and adapting. His system can’t even put points on the board against MD and Minn…1-8 conference record. time for something different, yet it won’t be. Gleeson was capable of better, but Schiano wouldn’t allow it.
 
Our scoring defense ranked 95th in the nation last year…. You call that badass???

You see THIS is the problem. Any moron with eyes can see this is failing but because our coaches name is Greg Schiano, folks who are stuck in 2006 can’t get over their memories and judge the guy objectively…

No! 95th in scoring defense is NOT ‘badass’, we were tied with TEMPLE in scoring defense, absolutely absurd statement.
Whatever moron.. I’m talking about his defense style/philosophy. He needs the horses. It’s his 4th year folks. First recruits are now seniors. Get a grip.
 
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Choosing to run out the 1st half clock with the ball after getting a 1st down isn’t a money issue.

Hiring an OC with a history of slow, run based offensive philosophy isn’t a money issue.

But sure, gatekeep being able to have opinions based on arbitrary money levels.
Since you brought it up - what level of donation earns “be critical of the HC” status?
Just want to check before I post again.

You may have misinterpreted

The more posts about Rutgers Football the better.

However, higher season ticket sales and NIL donations will make the program stronger.
 
Without realizing it, you actually noted the problem. He doesn’t have roster (talent, size, depth) for the philosophy. We can’t play Wisconsin football. He scapegoated Gleeson, and now he hires the Minnesota OC who runs the same power offense.

He’s incapable of creativity and adapting. His system can’t even put points on the board against MD and Minn…1-8 conference record. time for something different, yet it won’t be. Gleeson was capable of better, but Schiano wouldn’t allow it.

No I didn’t. Your problem with him is his offensive philosophy. So it turns out it’s not his philosophy it’s that he doesn’t have the horses. It’s his 4th year. First recruits are now seniors. I believe we can get to Wisconsin recruiting level. It’s just not going to happen overnight.
 
No I didn’t. Your problem with him is his offensive philosophy. So it turns out it’s not his philosophy it’s that he doesn’t have the horses. It’s his 4th year. First recruits are now seniors. I believe we can get to Wisconsin recruiting level. It’s just not going to happen overnight.

Cleaning up the Ash catastrophe takes time
 
Can’t get anymore real than wins, losses, points scored, etc.

I can post those if you would like. Or perhaps it would be too real.

It’s not like we are scoring 30ppg and people are saying we need to step it up.
We literally didn’t score more than 25pts once last year. Not once.

Excluding Wagner because I’m sure someone will point that out.
Granted he made a mistake with that OC from OK State.. but many here supported that choice. The only idea of what any replacement coach you see offered up would do here under similar conditions. We saw what Flood did with a much better start and what Ash did after Flood.

While I'd like more wins now, the ground is literally shifting beneath Schiano's feet as he tries to rebuild here. NIL tossed all his early plans to the wind.

In year 3 in his first go-round here the usual suspects you see doubting him now, doubted him then, and wanted him fired. He is just not their cup of tea.

He deserves more support and a lot more time unless you can buy a coach who has brought his team to the CFP several times and the NIL money to attract what 4-5 stars he wants, plus assistants who are paid like GS is paid now. Because that is what it would take and that is not within our reach.

GS was successful here, had blue-blood offers and stayed here until teh NFL called while our conference situation was a complete mess. Can you think of any replacement coach name you see tossed about now who would have stayed when a blue-blood came calling? I say none.. and if I am right then the replacement for GS is not one name.. but successive correct hires would be needed.

We bet on GS.. let us ride it out.
 
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Granted he made a mistake with that OC from OK State.. but many here supported that choice. The only idea of what any replacement coach you see offered up would do here under similar conditions. We saw what Flood did with a much better start and what Ash did after Flood.

While I'd like more wins now, the ground is literally shifting beneath Schiano's feet as he tries to rebuild here. NIL tossed all his early plans to the wind.

In year 3 in his first go-round here the usual suspects you see doubting him now, doubted him then, and wanted him fired. He is just not their cup of tea.

He deserves more support and a lot more time unless you can buy a coach who has brought his team to the CFP several times and the NIL money to attract what 4-5 stars he wants, plus assistants who are paid like GS is paid now. Because that is what it would take and that is not within our reach.

GS was successful here, had blue-blood offers and stayed here until teh NFL called while our conference situation was a complete mess. Can you think of any replacement coach name you see tossed about now who would have stayed when a blue-blood came calling? I say none.. and if I am right then the replacement for GS is not one name.. but successive correct hires would be needed.

We bet on GS.. let us ride it out.
How long does riding it out take? Until year 8? options are limited and RU is not likely to lure some big name here….
 
How long does riding it out take? Until year 8? options are limited and RU is not likely to lure some big name here….
Well, it is not firing him between the last preseason scrimmage and the first game. That is not "riding it out".

One has to question the logic of mounting an "insurrection" right now. (yes, the meaning of insurrection has been changed). Is this nonsense coming up now because you are actually worried about being stuck with GS because he might show progress this season? And right now, he is 0-0 on the season so you can imagine whatever you like.

Butch Jones was the leading candidate before GS was hired. He is 5-19 in 2 years at Arkansas State in the Sunbelt.

I know you all seem to find some hot coach somewhere and say, we should have hired him instead.. but that is not being realistic.
 
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Well, it is not firing him between the last preseason scrimmage and the first game. That is not "riding it out".

One has to question the logic of mounting an "insurrection" right now. (yes, the meaning of insurrection has been changed). Is this nonsense coming up now because you are actually worried about being stuck with GS because he might show progress this season? And right now, he is 0-0 on the season so you can imagine whatever you like.

Butch Jones was the leading candidate before GS was hired. He is 5-19 in 2 years at Arkansas State in the Sunbelt.

I know you all seem to find some hot coach somewhere and say, we should have hired him instead.. but that is not being realistic.
So what is it then?

Where is your finish line for riding it out?
 
Nah, let get some sort of time table here.

Agree…torches and pitchforks is not for now. But 8yrs isn’t either.
why? How can you predict what you'll see on the field or come up with some concoction of if-this, then-that?

ask me again at the end of the season... and keep in mind, for recruiting purposes you have to churn his contract 4 years at a time regardless if you think the next year could be his last. That's just the way it is. Doing otherwise is cutting his knees out in recruiting. It is a shame that, a public university, his contract terms have to be published... otherwise you could say that we have an extended his contracts and terms are private.

I you need an absolute answer I would have given him 6 years.. not counting the CoVid year... so 7. We have seen progress on defense.. we need the offense to catch up.
 
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Lol are you his agent? You get sand in your v when anyone criticizes him. Get it through your skull: his team was #99 in Year 3. That's terrible. Maybe they improve this year, maybe not. But that sucks after 3 years.
Ha Ha Ha… we are finally getting there with you. You stating , ” maybe they improve this year maybe not.” That’s a B1G deal for you … When RU was respectable from 2005 thru 2011 were you that negative? I doubt it since you would have achieved super douche level. Remember what he was left with, when he actually assumed power, and the previous 6 years. You , with all your intelligence, you ain’t stupid has to honestly admit it was not a good outlook. Anyway, just be somewhat balanced in evaluating the HC since he will be here for at a minimum 3-4 more years. You realize that right?
 
Lol are you his agent? You get sand in your v when anyone criticizes him. Get it through your skull: his team was #99 in Year 3. That's terrible. Maybe they improve this year, maybe not. But that sucks after 3 years.
Were you the poster who used the R word ? Don’t think so… stop being a puppy dog.😋
 
Please try not to use that word … this board had several posters who several (2) years ago made it their personal crusade. And the actual word the offender used was not used in the wrong context.I will always call out the educated idiots who hate the guy. One in particular who is around Schiano’s age and area where he was raised. Coincidence? I think not.
what?

if a word troubles you, you have bigger issues. grow up and move on

your post is retarded
 
Oh lord, we are back to the sky-is-falling types calling themselves the "realists" while saying anyone who recognizes the value of GS is too hopeful and is Polyana.

Maybe those who like GS are the realists and you are not.
slowdown and get a grip. I am not a sky is falling and nice to try and turn it around. get real

let's talk about 'realists' which apparently you have issue with. Greg is failing, let's debate that
 
Were you the poster who used the R word ? Don’t think so… stop being a puppy dog.😋
'r' word

Jesus Lord you are retarded

retarded could apply to this whole program! You do know the definition right?
 
Lol yo
Ha Ha Ha… we are finally getting there with you. You stating , ” maybe they improve this year maybe not.” That’s a B1G deal for you … When RU was respectable from 2005 thru 2011 were you that negative? I doubt it since you would have achieved super douche level. Remember what he was left with, when he actually assumed power, and the previous 6 years. You , with all your intelligence, you ain’t stupid has to honestly admit it was not a good outlook. Anyway, just be somewhat balanced in evaluating the HC since he will be here for at a minimum 3-4 more years. You realize that right?
Lol your head is so far up the coach's a** you'll never see daylight. Get this through your head geezer: I'm a critic of bad play. Deal with it, cry baby. Stop trying to shut critics down. You're pathetic.
 
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Lol yo

Lol your head is so far up the coach's a** you'll never see daylight. Get this through your head geezer: I'm a critic of bad play. Deal with it, cry baby. Stop trying to shut critics down. You're pathetic.
this is it right here
Greg needs to show massive improvement and better team coaching
 
what?

if a word troubles you, you have bigger issues. grow up and move on

your post is retarded
That particular word you used was called out by a number of people who regularly post on this site. It is a word used quite commonly for decades. During the pandemic pre 2016 elections the back and forth here was in someways quite vicious . One poster said something about” how r__ —it was to call them out for a medical description used over and over by groups who sponsored those afflicted individuals. So bright eyes it never offended me but it certainly offended some posters who used it to attack them on a WORD but that’s continued to be their mantra.
 
'r' word

Jesus Lord you are retarded

retarded could apply to this whole program! You do know the definition right?
And so the moderator / moderators who moved those threads now are allowing you to spew that word to seem like a tough guy? Sad little boy.😋
 
this is it right here
Greg needs to show massive improvement and better team coaching
Can you imagine fans so pathetic and fawning over a coach that all they can do to defend him is launch personal attacks on critics? Here's an easy solution: win some games. Better yet win some games over good opponents. Hell, just have an entertaining offense. Only Rutgers would have fans so pathetic they think fans who want to see good football are out of line.
 
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Lol yo

Lol your head is so far up the coach's a** you'll never see daylight. Get this through your head geezer: I'm a critic of bad play. Deal with it, cry baby. Stop trying to shut critics down. You're pathetic.
Be careful twerp … and now you act exactly like the spoiled brat. You still don’t get it douche. There are many more Rutgers fans who criticize but do it in a grown up manner . Psychology ??? You’re a spoiled adult who evidently was a spoiled and broken child as well.
 
Be careful twerp … and now you act exactly like the spoiled brat. You still don’t get it douche. There are many more Rutgers fans who criticize but do it in a grown up manner . Psychology ??? You’re a spoiled adult who evidently was a spoiled and broken child as well.
Ok boomer. Now go eat some prunes.
 
Can you imagine fans so pathetic and fawning over a coach that all they can do to defend him is launch personal attacks on critics? Here's an easy solution: win some games. Better yet win some games over good opponents. Hell, just have an entertaining offense. Only Rutgers would have fans so pathetic they think fans who want to see good football are out of line.
Try it sweetie you might feel better. You must love being a rag.
 
Boomer and proud of it douche… do you still use tampons or have you adjusted to a more sturdy monthly plug to control the flow?
Dude, seriously, you're angry. Don't pick fights with others simply because they dare to disagree about the coach and your blood pressure will be lower. Don't give yourself a stroke. The world needs you! You seem like such a nice person....
 
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Can you imagine fans so pathetic and fawning over a coach that all they can do to defend him is launch personal attacks on critics? Here's an easy solution: win some games. Better yet win some games over good opponents. Hell, just have an entertaining offense. Only Rutgers would have fans so pathetic they think fans who want to see good football are out of line.
Have you ever told Greg to his face how much you think he and the program sucks ? You never answered an easy question even for a douche. What did you cry about on this board when Schiano and his teams produced numerous NFL types and were quite respectable? I noticed several here always seem to avoid the facts. You being one of the ones.
 
Dude, seriously, you're angry. Don't pick fights with others simply because they dare to disagree about the coach and your blood pressure will be lower. Don't give yourself a stroke. The world needs you! You seem like such a nice person....
Dude … no that was your father … I’m not your dude .
 
Clown you literally post after me for several years now even when it ‘s not your concern . You’re a child … goodnite pudding pop.
 
That doesn’t make them the dumb ones IMO. 🤷‍♂️
Guys like him don't seem to grasp that. "Schiano will be here for 5 more years whether he wins or not" shows that what they care about is Schiano and not the team doing well.
 
That doesn’t make them the dumb ones IMO. 🤷‍♂️
But unfortunately none here have any control over his status and what comes down the road . Board warriors claiming to be true fans but for some reason it is seen by numerous other fanbases.
 
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