go to youtube and watch last week's game. Use the pause button liberally and watch the offensive plays unfold. It's upfront blocking. Penn State had guys coming in unblocked or just plain beating blocks and shedding linemen quickly.
If you have any doubts as to where the problem lies
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A coach had a brilliant write-up on the oline issues in another thread. Here's the direct link to his post:
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...e-experts-offensive-line.113777/#post-2477854
With this follow-up which I think hits the issue on the head:
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...e-experts-offensive-line.113777/#post-2477963
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...e-experts-offensive-line.113777/#post-2477854
With this follow-up which I think hits the issue on the head:
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...e-experts-offensive-line.113777/#post-2477963
First play of the game is a read option play that Gio completely reads wrong. That needed to be a pull. You can tell is a read option by where is head goes.
Football has always been won in the trenches. In today's days of fantasy football and so called high powered offenses that throw to ball 70% of the time, it's always those with strength along the line that rise to the top.
Look at this year's Dallas Cowboys. Rookie QB ranked #2 behind Brady. Rookie running back #1. Best O-line in football
Look at this year's Dallas Cowboys. Rookie QB ranked #2 behind Brady. Rookie running back #1. Best O-line in football
We could try better play calling that suites our talent.
Whatever play calling you do you still have to block the man in front of you there is no play that beats and unblocked defender who should be blocked.
42 yes but maybe not 81. Guarantee his rule is anyone head up to inside he leaves alone and the OT rule is anyone head up to outside he leaves and he down blocks first guy inside of him. They are reading the player between the TE and the OT. Should have been a pull and a huge run to the left.
Great post. I've been watching this nonsense all season, but many fans don't really pay attention and just blame the OC.
Drew hasn't been great, but it doesn't matter if you have Chip Kelly calling plays if you can't block.
We lost our best OLineman last year and our lack of depth really shows. I think it can be better next year with a full year of training the noobies.
Drew hasn't been great, but it doesn't matter if you have Chip Kelly calling plays if you can't block.
We lost our best OLineman last year and our lack of depth really shows. I think it can be better next year with a full year of training the noobies.
These same offensive linemen blocked for 35 TDs by running backs the past 2 seasons. This year a grand total of 1 rushing TD by a RB. So give the OC and OL coach their share of the blame if not more.
What was 32 supposed to do in that play? He was way downfield.
And was 8 supposed to hand/pitch it to 23, or was 23 a decoy?
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Uhm this is NOT the "same offensive line." Losing Lumpkin - as predicted - has been an absolute KILLER out there and our TE's can't block to save their lives. Ash was spot-on a couple Mondays ago when he was asked about the lack of TD production, from the RB's, and said "it all starts and ends with the guys up front blocking."
It's stunning, to me, that people just don't get this! Not just here, friends of mine, too, but at least my dad has finally admitted that I was right about the lack of talent and athleticism in the program.
DM stated in that presser that Flanagan (81) has to get that safety.
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/maryland-game-week-pressers-ash-oc-dc.113875/
Fair enough. But they clearly leave the player lined up inside to go free which to me screams option read and then the read is wrong. The ball should have never gone that way. UNLESS they said give it. If they said give it I have zero defense for doing that.
The blocking does not say a reverse to me. I would say 23 was a decoy. Gio carries out an option fake as opposed to looking for some kind of block if it was a reverse. I see this as a botched jet read.
Anyone who can't see this doesn't know what they are watching.
That's not entirely true. Cole is new at left tackle, he played guard last year IIRC, and Denman went down mid-year and right tackle has been manned since by RSF Kamaal Seymour. Upside is pretty good on both of these kids, but it was very much a trial by fire learning process this year.
I'd like to think that we are on the same trajectory that Washington and Colorado were on only a few years back. Both programs were down and out and they made excellent hires and are once again playing very good football. Did we make a great hire with Ash? I hope so. Will he run out of time trying to fix RU?
I think the problem is with the culture of the program which does include the fan-base.
Anyway, I'm much too self-deprecating to argue your point. :)
Wouldn't blocking technique, foot work, etc be something you teach and practice ? These guys weren't all scrubs picked up walking around New Brunswick. Someone pointed out in another thread there's 40 three star players on the roster right now. The extent some of you will go to absolve this HC is reaching comical levels.
Yes but running a pro set stretch and or man blocking scheme is very different than running a high tempo zone blocking scheme.
Our money play for years was power (with a down blocking TE and a FB involved also). We do not run anything like that anymore.
And if you do what Op suggested and actually watch the plays develop you will see it's a different guy who screws up each time. Could the coaches do more? Of course but only so much you can do without depth.
With talent coming in at WR, TE and QB....the Oline is now the number one problem on the board...even with an excellent haul.
The oline is a mess....
Pencil Clark and Sam V as starters at some point in 2017....playing ahead of when it is idea.....as the pay off will be in 2019 when they are junior starters, Seymore is a senior... and leading the oline... with two more starters and depth to be found from the other redshirt sophs and redshirt frosh from the class of 2017 and 2018.
We need to find some stop gaps in here...need a 5th year guy and a JUCO ready to start for next season....
The oline is a mess....
Pencil Clark and Sam V as starters at some point in 2017....playing ahead of when it is idea.....as the pay off will be in 2019 when they are junior starters, Seymore is a senior... and leading the oline... with two more starters and depth to be found from the other redshirt sophs and redshirt frosh from the class of 2017 and 2018.
We need to find some stop gaps in here...need a 5th year guy and a JUCO ready to start for next season....
That just tells me they're all poorly coached. Who's the OL coach anyway ?
Ash has done very poor job with the talent he does have. Although it looks like he has some decent commits, I'm skeptical that all will sign on the dotted line in Feb, especially the ones that have other options. And the ones that do sign I am also skeptical that he will get the most out of them, given what I’ve seen to date.
I see your point but Ash has been in place for almost a year now with his new OL coach, S&C, nutrition and two rounds of concentrated practice sessions (Spring and summer). I wouldn't think it's the equivalent of a moon mission to teach existing offensive linemen new blocking schemes and to at least see some kind of improvement as the year wears on.
Im sure they know what to do but I am not sure they can do it.
There are simply things that can't be taught. Athletic ability is one of those.
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