Ive taught it both to college and high school kids. That being said I could not have switched to a man blocking scheme in other offense. We would have been blown off of the ball.
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Ive taught it both to college and high school kids. That being said I could not have switched to a man blocking scheme in other offense. We would have been blown off of the ball.
I would agree also. All I am saying is we don't have the OL on the roster currently with the skill and body type to execute the scheme. It's not that the scheme is hard or complicated. It's that we have the wrong type of OL. They don't have the skill to execute the scheme.
A more interesting question is do we think these guys will be any more skillful next year? A couple of them have to start.
I think our OTs will be fine. Fixing our interior will be critical BUT what will really help is a QB who can actually run the read option.
When I hear you say this, I think more of the guys who won't be here. Cole has supposedly graded well. Seymour is hard to judge, but I'll assume there is plenty of room for growth there.
Need to work on/find the interior guys.
No I'm making it look like we can't, or haven't beat teams with similar talent. We're 2-9. I believe our talent is better then that.
I also believe our talent should not be getting beat 49-0 vs a team that came into the game 2-7.
I think it is more WR's. Need Mitchell to be a player from day 1. Could really use Grant back.
QB play should improve as well. A little wary that Coaches will squeeze Gio in order to get "their guys" on the field.
I had really high hopes for our WRs and not a lot happened. I think Patton was not used well this year and Harris was a nice surprise but everything else was bad. I again think we were trying to fit guys into a system where they were not put in a position to be successful.
Perhaps true. However, catching is catching and our WRs dropped a lot of passes this year. Had some tough catches to make that didn't get made as well.
Hopefully that gets cleaned up a lot for next season.
Depends on how you want to run your spread. Are you stretching the field? Are you running jet/bubble/screens? Are you a throw the ball 45 times or run the ball 45 times spread? Spread is a very generic term.
I count on you, RutgersAl, to get me pumped up and excited. I've been telling everyone to just wait until next year. Now RutgersAl is calling it a 5-year plan. Crap.
Based on what though? Other than a game or two, against very poor D's, none of our returning WR's had EVER done anything outside of a spring game. Grant? Okay, sure, but Patton, Agudosi, and Tsimis, really aren't capable P5 receivers and neither are our TE's, to be honest.
My main point is, does it really matter what system you run for WR's? Does the general idea of running routes and catching balls ever change?
Sure certain receivers are better running deep routes while others are better in the slot, but will that very from system to system?
Patton had more catches, and more yards last year.
Agudosi had more catches and 4x's as many yards last year.
Tsimis 2 years ago had more catches and yards.
Arc had more catches and yards last year.
Wasn't crazy to think these guys would have better years as seniors then they did when they were juniors or sophomores.
The idea does not but running certain routes absolutely. There is a reason you never saw Patton running a bubble and we never put Harris on the line of scrimmage running a vertical.
I like what I saw in practice and liked some things I saw in games from them. I was not expecting 1000 Yds receiving and 10 TDs but I was expecting something.
And we have been having a pretty good football talk here so as opposed to just calling someone clueless (I assume me) why don't you add in your thoughts.
I think they all showed flashes of being positive WRs, not studs, but positive WRs that could be utilized.
Ya, of coarse, but will that vary from spread to pro style in all their various configurations? I'm thinking Harris will never be the big vertical threat and Patton will never be running bubble's.
Guess we will see them light it up in the pros like the guys on the teams that pound us into the dust.
Just calling a spade a spade. Yea could they have done better. Sure maybe. Maybe you should be the oc based on your knowledge and accomplishments to date.
We've seen more then a few good wr's at Rutgers who never went on to "light it up" in the pro's.
All the WR's on the squad had better years in the same conference in previous years.
Why would you not expect these guys to progress as opposed to regress? Especially if we think the new staff is better at coaching guys up?
Im qualified to coach at the BCS level but not as an OC, especially a P5 conference, but I am more than qualified to be a position coach. I do not think any of them were world beaters but I do not think our system utilized any of the potential they had to help us. Sorry you seem to have a problem with me giving my input.
Well you are basically calling out our oc. So you are implicitly (at least) suggesting you would do a better job. So I assume since you think you are smarter you should be an oc somewhere. See I just watch this website and so many people are completely full of shit when I see somebody acting like they are more qualified than our oc it pisses me off to be honest. If your just a good guy giving honest feedback I truly apologize if I was disrespectful but realize you are insulting our coach and suggesting you know better. If you can't take the criticism maybe you shouldn't criticize.
I can take criticism with something that is backed up. You just said clueless and gave no feed back. We can talk all kinds of WR stuff, with film from this year and past if you want to. I am here to talk football (good or bad) and unfortunately this year has been bad. If you really watch the board then you know I have praised how our defense has improved as well as the technique. I think our OC will get there but I do have questions about some of the things they do. Could I do a better job? No idea. I do know that I have had success at the levels I have coached and know enough about football that I can sit down and talk Xs and Os with the best of them (and have). He himself admits he makes mistakes. I have questions about some of the things he does and we have had a struggling year.
Unfortunately there was nobody else to throw out there this year then add to it the the loss of Grant, not even halfway through game 4, and one would have guessed their output literally HAD to be better this year, BUT....they lost their "safety net" in LC then, even worse, lost Grant. Take away their 3+ year starting LT and, well, the unit was the exploited for what it really is, again, most unfortunately.
That being said there were people here claiming we had "as fast a group of receivers as any in the conference" and a "top 5 receiver group in the conference" (and I heard that from more than 1 poster). Bottom line, sorry, but they just weren't good nor should we have expected them to be so. My main point is that our posters have a VERY BAD tendency of seeing "highlight"-type games, in April, and base predictions for the team, for units within the team, and for individuals based on a spring game that, in the end, tends to mean very, very little other than being a show. These stats are, in a word and being very nice, "underwhelming:"
Patton 27-for-391 (last year 34-for-432)
Arc 10-for-62 (12-for-92)
Tsmis 10-for-86 (injured)
Agudosi 7-for-75 (17-for313)
http://www.scarletknights.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2016-2017/teamcume.html#TEAM.IND
Where are the stats for "dropped passes" at, btw, because we dropped a TON of them this season (well, the ones that reached the hands of our receives, anyway....ugh).
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Based on some of your comments I don't believe you have a very good grasp of the situation. Since you are so bright and knowledgeable perhaps you are just flying under the radar. My gut tells me you aren't a BCS oc because you aren't qualified.
I typically don't have an issue with what he says but, yeah, I found that comment VERY suspect but who knows.
I also think practice was way different that facing 3 top 10 teams in the first half of the season. Our OL and QBs were scared from those experiences for the rest of the season.
Don't know how you account for bad QB throws resulting from an OL that got overrun forcing the QB into an almost fetal position on many plays. This whole season reminds me of 2010 when we tried to switch to a spread under Schiano and the team looked lost.
One of our QB's threw plenty of balls into the ground - or 10 feet over people's heads - on his own, however, no doubt the OL had a major role in this mess.
Big deal don't you know 75% of the guys on this board are closet genuis football coach's just read our boards and you will see. Coach Ash should come on this site and take notes and at the very least hire some of these gentlemen to fix his team.
Don't worry about one poster having a problem with you giving your input.
I'm pretty sure most here appreciate your perspective. I know I certainly do.
Thanks again.
This is just not needed, have a little civility, finally some good football talk you don't need to ruin it.
I never even thought of the shell shock factor from the beginning of the season playing out. That is a major point.
You normally seem like a pretty good poster, but no need to rip on @gef21 . I saw nothing out of line or negative in his critiques--if anything, he was asking questions and wondering why certain things did not happen. He was not disrespectful nor did he rip on the OC. So, what is your issue?
Again with this sheet about having to be Urban Meyer or such to make comments about our coaching so far. If that were the case no one here can comment on our coaching because no one has be a D1 head coach or coordinator. Doesn't take much to see that we've sucked this year due to talent AND coaching.
Because I disagree and question the purported qualifications of someone touting their resume I'm suddenly a bad
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