If you have any doubts as to where the problem lies

[Knight Shift]

Because I disagree and question the purported qualifications of someone touting their resume I'm suddenly a bad

No. You kind of ripped the guy for no real reason and challenged him. He has demonstrated football knowledge that appears to be as good or better than 90% of the posters on this board. Do you want to run him off? A lot of posters will be disappointed if you do that.
Do you think the OC's play calling is beyond question this year? I am not trying to give you a hard time--but just suggesting you could have had a more civilized debate with the guy.

 

[bethlehemfan]

Ok fair enough. I'll chill out and see how it all plays out.

 

[Knight Shift]

Don't mean to get on you bethlehem- you seem like a good person. Was just surprised--but different people get their buttons pushed in different ways. LOL. That's why I have a long ignore list.

 

[FELONIOUSMONK]

The fault dear Brutus is not in our stars...We dont have any..

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Are you saying zone blocking can not be effective? I tried to stay with your point but am not sure.

Sure it can be.. in the NFL where the talent is spread around the league relatively equally. Or for the "name" college programs that will have a physical advantage. And even they you get drive-blocking mixed in.

We did some zone blocking even with Ray Rice here.. but still you'd find plays, against 8 in the box, where RR would make a nice move and you'd see OL 5-10 yards downfield throwing blocks. But that time I mentioned in 2009/2010.. you never saw that.. every play the OL stood up and absorbed blows by the DL.. and there was NEVER and quick-hitting dive plays that could hit them in the middle of a stunt. Thankfully I have seen some dives out of DM.. so he has one-upon Flood there.

What I am saying is that zone blocking schemes are great for pass-first offenses where the defense FEARS the QB. You have mentioned the lack of throwing over the middle this season. Well, those seam routes and quick slants are what are supposed to generate fear in the LB and safeties.. and by "fear" I mean the sense of danger of evacuating their zone in run support.

Instead what we have largely seen with zone blocking here has been the ability of the defense to stack the box and run blitz whenever they feel like it.

And that can introduce FEAR into the OL. Fear of the stunt or blitz of an unaccounted-for defender and that caused indecision and slow reaction time.. which is what the offensive playcalling is supposed to be doing to the defense.

The offense must seize the initiative... even if they have less talent than the defense.. especially if they have less talent than the defense.

Sure, if we had equal or superior talent allover the field we could do whatever we wanted. Or we'd look a lot better while failing.

I'd love to see how different defenses we have faced have gone away from their tendencies in other games to become much more aggressive vs Rutgers. I'd love to see if other teams scouting us see nothing in our playcalling that would stop them from releasing the hounds. Maybe some of that is that certain OL spots might be easily fooled.. or beaten.

But as the OC, DM has seen every snap, every game, multiple times. You'd think he would find a way to work around problems.. to confuse defenses just a bit.. make them pay for being over-aggressive. Instead, it looks to me, like te is teeing up the offense to get swamped by an aggressive D.

 

[gef21]

Sure it can be.. in the NFL where the talent is spread around the league relatively equally. Or for the "name" college programs that will have a physical advantage. And even they you get drive-blocking mixed in.

We did some zone blocking even with Ray Rice here.. but still you'd find plays, against 8 in the box, where RR would make a nice move and you'd see OL 5-10 yards downfield throwing blocks. But that time I mentioned in 2009/2010.. you never saw that.. every play the OL stood up and absorbed blows by the DL.. and there was NEVER and quick-hitting dive plays that could hit them in the middle of a stunt. Thankfully I have seen some dives out of DM.. so he has one-upon Flood there.

What I am saying is that zone blocking schemes are great for pass-first offenses where the defense FEARS the QB. You have mentioned the lack of throwing over the middle this season. Well, those seam routes and quick slants are what are supposed to generate fear in the LB and safeties.. and by "fear" I mean the sense of danger of evacuating their zone in run support.

Instead what we have largely seen with zone blocking here has been the ability of the defense to stack the box and run blitz whenever they feel like it.

And that can introduce FEAR into the OL. Fear of the stunt or blitz of an unaccounted-for defender and that caused indecision and slow reaction time.. which is what the offensive playcalling is supposed to be doing to the defense.

The offense must seize the initiative... even if they have less talent than the defense.. especially if they have less talent than the defense.

Sure, if we had equal or superior talent allover the field we could do whatever we wanted. Or we'd look a lot better while failing.

I'd love to see how different defenses we have faced have gone away from their tendencies in other games to become much more aggressive vs Rutgers. I'd love to see if other teams scouting us see nothing in our playcalling that would stop them from releasing the hounds. Maybe some of that is that certain OL spots might be easily fooled.. or beaten.

But as the OC, DM has seen every snap, every game, multiple times. You'd think he would find a way to work around problems.. to confuse defenses just a bit.. make them pay for being over-aggressive. Instead, it looks to me, like te is teeing up the offense to get swamped by an aggressive D.

I have to completely disagree with you. I have been a part of stretch zone run concepts that have been extremely effective. They are designed to help undersized linemen create double teams, and four eyes to the linebackers. I think man blocking is what you do when you are superior and zone blocking is designed to help undersized linemen. Now we are running a ZONE READ offense without a QB threat. We might be talking about different things in this conversation but making the same point that our system is not doing what it needs to do.