The second Anthony threw a punch he threw his HS career away. Unless I’m missing something the videos show him running up into the stands and sis swinging.
Knox father arrested at state tourney match
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The lead story headline on nj.com states that Knox Jr. Is seen on tape throwing punches and that he (Jr.) was also handcuffed. It’s now a national story as Sports Illustrated has picked it up. I certainly hope the the regional sites tighten up their security and put a lid on some of the loudmouths who provoke this crap. It shouldn’t have to be this way but a handful of idiots make it a necessity.
Ag and hotel restaurant management are hotbeds for athletes at Cornell. Cornell is NY land grant school and has schools that are part of SUNY.
Don’t be ridiculous. Anthony never goes into the stand if his father doesn’t cause trouble. Anthony has to be responsible for his own actions but his action was a reaction to something his father created. It shouldn’t be that hard to understand.
It's easy to understand....I never said his dad wasnt at fault, but Anthony (a legal adult) bears some as well. He voluntarily went into the stands and assaulted someone. That shouldn't be difficult to understand that Anthony bears some responsibility.
The dad’s an idiot, all that time, money, dedication, weekends are tournaments, training, etc. wasted bc of his ego, ruining his kids chance at history
Of course, the kids gonna go in the stands, somebody starts throwing haymakers at your father, you’re gonna go and defend the guy
As much as I don’t like the NJSI, they had no choice to suspend him.
Like another poster said though, I wish they would schedule another match with the JV so he can Serve his suspension and then wrestle in the state tournament.
Of course, the kids gonna go in the stands, somebody starts throwing haymakers at your father, you’re gonna go and defend the guy
As much as I don’t like the NJSI, they had no choice to suspend him.
Like another poster said though, I wish they would schedule another match with the JV so he can Serve his suspension and then wrestle in the state tournament.
Cornell has two parts. The SUNY part and the IVY league part. Most of the boarder line kids get into SUNY part!
Sorry to disagree with you on your last line . Making a special exception for him would not teach him anything for his adult life. He needs to learn actions have consequences and just because he is a great wrestler he doesn't get away with it. Those of us that follow wrestling all know a father like his, heck we had one on the Rutgers sidelines. They degrade the sport with their actions . How many of us cannot stand watching Ferrari antics, this kid needs to learn a lesson and not turn out like him.
For everyone saying “of course a kid is going to defend his dad “ watch the multiple videos little Knox runs up into the stands and starts punching a kid that he was going back and forth with all day and not anyone even near his father. He was a settling something personal not doing a single thing to “help his dad” the excuses and conspiracy theories I’ve seen thrown out there to defend Knox and SJV are just ridiculous.. grown men crying that whole the gym was rooting against SJV all day , like so what ? It’s sports you can’t handle being booed when your top dog and heckled on the road then maybe you should join the band or debate club instead
I read about the kid prior to all this and to me he came off as a bit of a douche with no humility at all. Now that I saw his father in action no wonder the kid has a bit of an attitude problem. I feel for the kid getting disqualified, but I am not really shocked that he got put in this situation by his father.
Hey, Smooth.
Just wanted to point out that it isn't a suspension that could be remedied with a dummy match. it's an out and out disqualification.
As a wrestling lifer I have a lot of thoughts about this whole thing, but most of them have already been voiced in this thread by likeminded lifers, ha ha. Suffice to say that I think it was handled correctly...
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Not disagreeing with your premise, but as an avid wrestling fan, what he was attempting to do would have been incredible to see
Greatness doesn't come around on that level very often
I haven't seen the video, but if that's the case, not cool at all and unfortuntaely those actions have consequences
Sux b'c he is an awesome wrestler and greatness like this doesn't come around very often
Re. his Dad, all the more reason to relax - MMA dudes are real deal, and aside from costing his kid a chance at history, he can now have an issue legally if charges are pressed
Personally I don't understand fighting at youth events (or in general, ever unless your life is in danger or your wife/child is involved) as it literally serves no purpose
Yea that’s why I attached the link and what I was inferring with “hotbeds for athletes”. Hahahah. Had many an intern (lacrosse hockey) from Cornell that somehow were attractive to wall st firms with ag and hotel majors.
It's only been two years since Camden's and Eastside's (formerly Woodrow Wilson) basketball teams were both disqualified from the post-season because of a brawl in the Camden County championship. Aside from everything else, the optics of a lack of NJSIAA enforcement of rules for the current situation would be horrible...
None of this should come as a surprise to anyone. The kid is a great wrestler but…
I'd like to circle back to this again. Given what @Psufan2427 has stated above and if true, Jr seemingly went into the stands, not to defend his father, but to attack someone else he had a beef with makes Jr's actions even more irresponsible and Sr starting the brawl appears unrelated.
This statement isnt aging well at the moment.
Kid went into the stands and threw punches. What did you expect to happen?
they are from Staten Island , this is like a regular Monday night for them
What does does the basketball game video and this incident have to do with each other? The rules say if you leave the playing area to fight is a disqualification. The coaches manual clearly states video evidence may be used to determine and identify players who have left the bench and involved.
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The fact that the kid is getting a hearing is indicative of everything that’s wrong with society today. Idiots were heckling the SJV team, dad shows up at districts in a wife beater and decides to start a fight with the spectators. Kid who is 19 years old joins dad in the stands. There was no imminent danger just the arrogant kid wanting to look like a tough guy by entering the fray.
Kid is punished for the stupidity of his family and himself. Doesn’t like the punishment so he threatens to sue.
Same thing happened to the number one basketball recruit in the nation DJ Wagner 3 years ago. Fight at a game, his team Camden suspended from states and couldn’t defend their Group 2 state title. They weren’t reinstated and Wagner moved on unceremoniously.
Knox will be reinstated because he will whine like a baby and not accept any responsibility for his actions.
It’s really sad what society has devolved into.
I don't think he has much of a chance of being reinstated unless it's a very liberal judge, which very well could be in NJ.
There is a part of me that would like to see him accomplish his 4th state championship, but the evidence looks quite condemning.
Using every angle they can to draw sympathy and not take responsibility for their actions.
No remorse for his actions or accountability for breaking NJSIAA rules. Father playing the victim card to TV media. That's comical. Just a tad too much testosterone flowing in the blood stream and too little restraint and common sense from the Knox family.
That guy takes a little more than just testosterone pills, trust me
Weird how after 6+ hours of wrestling, both Jr. and Sr. went to fight within 10 seconds of each other.
Knox was probably heated all day long if the reports of the public school fans getting on him all day are true. But the father’s action were the spark that caused the bigger blowup. At the end of the day, Jr. does not go into the stands if Sr. doesn’t go into the stands first.
Jr. still should be held accountable, but Sr. is 100% the root cause of the whole mess.
Video being used to change the outcome of a game is different than video being used to determine a penalty for an altercation.
From a legal standpoint, I think Knox would actually win this case as due process is guaranteed by the 14th amendment
Whether you like it or not, he’s entitled to a hearing. Has nothing to do with today’s society. The amendment that guarantees the hearing has been around for 150 years.
Is their argument at the hearing that he didn't enter the stands and throw punches? That he is not the one on the video throwing punches? Not sure what their argument is here.
Not sure what his side of the story is going to be. But he has a constitutionally protected right to give his side of the story.
I disagree as recently the supreme court has ruled that while students have due process rights that apply to the overall educational experience, it doesn't however extend to individual parts of the educational process such participating in athletic and extracurricular activities. Unless NJSIAA rules state that he is entitled to due process the courts have ruled that there is no free-standing property interest in participating. Just imagine if a school had to provide due process for all discipline items? They would have to have a hearing for something as simple as detention.
Exactly! Otherwise all disputes in an extracurricular activity could warrant a due process hearing.
@SCNJ
You could demand due process around the unconstitutionality of a parochial participating in your local district tounrament.
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Anything considered “de minimis” in nature does not legally require due process. That includes detentions and minor infractions.
I don’t know if your point about NJSIAA is entirely true or not but in the school system, any suspension of 10 days or fewer requires informal due process, which can be done by any administrator. Anything over 10 days requires formal due process, potential tribunal or court hearings.
Being suspended for the state tournament certainly supersedes the de minimis standard. I’d have to read up on that Supreme Court case you mention, I have not heard about that.
He wasn't suspended for it. He was technically disqualified from the qualifying event. So would every athletic disqualification require due process? Imagine having to have a hearing for every disqualification in sports.
Would fouling out in basketball require due process hearing before a player is removed from the basketball game? Would it only apply to state tournament games?
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It’s an interesting point, honestly. DQ’s generally require a 2 game suspension. Under educational law, that does require due process. Doesn’t mean the courts have to get involved, but some governing body has to hear his side. I’m not certain if an organization that exists because of education has to follow those laws. It makes for a debate for sure.
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