From an outside view of someone who knows very little about wrestling, it seems like we might have hit a wall over the last few years. We beat teams we are supposed to be most of the time, lose a couple that we shouldn't, and never win against the better teams. Kind of hard to get too enthused when the pattern is so predictable.
There are certainly multiple tiers currently and for the next few years
Exactly and in Year 8 of the B1G, I was at least expecting us to be in Tier 3 with Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Minnesota.
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Nah, throw money at NIL.
Been a while.. I think we beat Wisc in 2018 or 2019 when they were #10.
This is after the fact..but no friggin way.
That backup was a starter last year (I know Poz beat him then), and he is no slouch. Romero just happens to be better. Poz got high, locked his hands and gave up the reversal. Unfortunate event and such is the life of wrestling. I think Poz and Bulsak wrestled too conservative today IMO.
Thanks for the perspective Bill. It's the same more, more, more mantra here but not as bad as the basketball board. They are much more fickell there. We are down two starters (Olivieri is a real nice fill in though), and are thin in the middle weights, especially with Turley out. And we still compete. We had a shot today and got wins in the toss ups, but our upper weigh hammers couldnt get it done. C'est la vie.
Bill,
I guess I should pay more attention to the newsletters instead of just writing checks. I usually just delete them. Had no idea.
He was all over the last newsletter from January so if there was a change it was fairly recent and not publicized yet.
I remember reading the one in November and he signed it, they send it to my business e-mail so I get so much junk from suppliers I usually delete it by accident, thought I missed the news. Thanks for the clarification.
Just bc they are freshman doesn’t guarantee they will improve.. just means more eligibility.. look at Poz, for example, seems to have regressed a lil… would be surprised if he made the semis at nationals again this year.. yeah..” shit happens!”Last time at Michigan state.. now second time, getting more worrisome….need more mental toughness… killer mentality… only c it in Seabass rn..
Everyone should be frustrated by today's results, but I don't know what to make of Poz right now. Is he injured or sick, as he didn't suddenly stop training and conditioning or lose his mind? Something is up and we don't know why. Everyone was so ready to rip Turley and the coaches, but no one knew he had a bad injury before the season that required surgery, yet he tried to push through.
Sometimes when we're too emotionally invested in the program, we can't see the forest because the trees are in the way. Recruiting has gotten better, Poz, Turley, Oliveri, (Soldano, and Casale next year), were and are legit recruits. Ryan Vulach was a great recruit that unfortunately had a career-ending back injury. The train is moving forward, it just gets off schedule sometimes.IMO
Recruiting really hasn't improved. Landing 1 or 2 elite recruits each year with some risky recruits and depth isn't going to get us to consistently be a top 10 team in March or anywhere near competing for a trophy. We need 3, 4 and 5 Soldano's in multiple consecutive classes to do that.
If you know Poz personally can you let us know if he’s wrestling hurt? I thought the exact same thing watching him. Something doesn’t right with him. Don’t know if it’s confidence, aggression, being afraid to make a mistake after the MSU match but have seen anyone be able to hold him down like that for almost a minute. Hope he’s ok bc his story alone is unbelievable.
We have the facilities, we have the fans. We all know we don’t have the funding of PSU and Iowa but we need to find a way to land 3 Soldano’s every year if we want it be a top 5-8 team. Not even saying we can reach the top 4 area with the monstrous programs but don’t see why we cannot compete with the MN’s of the world. The 4 is see consistently out of reach are PSU,,Iowa, OK St, and one of Michigan/OSU. They kind of flip flop each year. Outside of that, think we should be able to compete with anyone.
Yup, agree and have all along. I make the mistake of bringing it up when everyone is in their manic stage of the season, perennially before the tough competition. But how and when the conversation occurs and who is a part of it is not well understood.
Exactly. The diehard fans aren't asking to compete with Iowa or PSU, but at this point we should at least be on the same level as say an NC State or Virginia Tech. I think elevating the program to fringe Top 10 status perennially isn't a big ask from where they are now.
Agree that asking questions isn’t unreasonable. That’s completely fair. Questioning their heart is where it goes too far and alluding that Poz and Bulsak are chokers is a bit much.
Rocky Jordan is def no scrub and he was Poz’s first major test last year.. Poz beat the Michigan state kid too last year and now both results have been reversed this year.. no one questioning Poz manhood/heart or w.e but seeing him lose to two guys he beaten before is a cause for concern.
You want to compete with Cael on recruiting, then you'll need a name like Jordan Boroughs at Rutgers.
Poz won 9-6 last year vs Jordan.. and was leading the MSU kid before MSU had to inj default
i think you hit the nail on the head..yes funding is important i agree....but i do remember when the program was a hair away from being dropped.
