Keckeisen is right there with Brooks unless Brooks was hurt when they wrestled last month. The match was a very tight 3-2 win for Brooks. Romero is going to be tough as is Hidley. Brooks, Amine, Hidley, Keckeisen and Romero at the top right now. Poz should be right there with all of them but Brooks (styles make fights). Keckeisen and Romero are both incredibly powerful wrestlers. Amine is very technical. Hidley has a unique style with the underhooks that limits an opponents offense (kind of like Yazdani and the rest of the top Iranians). 184 is really tough.
No. 16 Rutgers Wrestling Treks to No. 1 Penn State for Sunday Dual / Match Thread
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Not sure what match YOU watched but in 2OT Bartlett chose down, MVB rode him out and then in the next period MVB chose neutral. If you read what I wrote, Goodale and MVB correctly chose neutral, successfully avoided the takedown, and won because of the riding time tiebreaker.
I simply said neutral shouldn’t be allowed to be chosen. If riding time is the tiebreaker, then each guy should have an opportunity to ride/escape
Gotta believe that rule will be changed in the off season. Any coach that has a wrestler lose like that will be asking for it. And, the ones that haven't had a wrestler lose like that will be sympathetic, because he won't want to have his first.
Hope so. I’m not going to complain about the win but if you have a guy who’s good on top, the match comes down to a coin toss which is the biggest reason why they got away from UTB in the first place
I agree but feel Poz is right there with all those guys, maybe not Amine. He obviously gave Hidley all he could handle and he’s beaten Keickesen in past, before college. Romero is tough but I think Poz offense can beat him. Will be a close match. Romero is very defensive. I guess time will tell. I think Brooks at top of his game is above of them but feel Amine could pull an upset with his experience but wouldn’t bet on it.
Did Mike chose neutral or did Bartlett? Didn’t MVB have 31 second riding time so even if Bartlett rode him out MVB would have won by 1 second RT?
Pretty sure riding time resets. Bartlett first chose down and couldn’t escape. MVB then chose neutral because a ride out would have led to an even riding time, and by choosing neutral, he effectively starts with the tiebreaker in his favor and simply circling for 30 seconds gets the win.
Again, he earned the win and did nothing wrong. I just think the rule needs to be tweaked.
No. Riding time gets erased once they go to the tiebreakers. The most MVB could have had was 30 seconds. Good job by Goodale knowing the new rule and choosing neutral so MVB could basically stay away and not give up riding time. I always thought both guys has to take top and bottom in that situation
Yeah I’ve never seen neutral before either. Wonder how many coaches around the country would have had the presence in mind to choose neutral. Feel like instinct and habit would lead a lot of coaches to choose bottom
Couldn't Penn St have pulled the same neutral move after MVB got ridden out for 30 sec the first time around? Guess they didn't know the rule.
Um, no? VB deferred, BB took down, and VB rode him out giving VB 30 seconds of riding time. VB then chose bottom, instead of neutral, allowing BB to eliminate the riding time.
So, maybe RU coaches figured out the rule between OTs.
Pretty sure the riding time tiebreaker doesn’t get applied until 2OT but I could be wrong on that
You know, I was thinking that, because they didn't show the riding time clock during the 1st set.. But, I looked at the rule this morning, and can't interpret it that way. But it could just be my reading of it.
Haha, I also just looked it up and riding time does get applied in the first OT as well. So thinking your post above that the RU coaches might have realized between the first OT rideout and the second OT rideout that they could have taken neutral and won after the first two 30 second tie-breakers.
Will be interesting moving forward the coaches strategy. When you have two really good guys on top, does the first guy take neutral in the first 30 second period? Put the pressure on the other guy to either take bottom or neutral?
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Riding time advantage after the 1st OT wins the match. You usually don't see coaches go neutral in the 1st OT thinking my guy can get away. Plus if you get away get taken down and escape again you would win on RT in 1st OT. In 2nd OT is where you will see coaches go neutral. I would say about 1/3 of the staffs aren't aware you can go neutral
Yeah but if you go bottom, escape and get taken down late then you lose. I guess if you get taken down in short time you’d probably get taken down in a 30 second period anyway.
You can’t really take neutral in the first period because if you don’t get your take down, you’re probably going to lose on an escape AND you’re giving the guy an opportunity to score two himself. It’s a lot easier to do it in the second period when you know the situation and you need to just avoid a takedown to win.
