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Batters can either pull a ball or go the other way. Not rocket science. Can every batter do it? Of course not.

People are going apeshit in trying to ban the shift because they dont want to work to hit the ball the other way. You think theyre going to "target" Rosario in the OF?
TB- he missed exactly that point. Also- it isn’t like AR is not an elite athlete with speed, hand eye coordination and has been playing at this level in a harder and more high presser position. I get it, he may get himself in some sort of bind but it is not good odds to just expect he can’t make 80%+ of the plays.
Now, if a ball is hit to him, you make want to take advantage or test him on the basepaths. Different story
 
TB- he missed exactly that point. Also- it isn’t like AR is not an elite athlete with speed, hand eye coordination and has been playing at this level in a harder and more high presser position. I get it, he may get himself in some sort of bind but it is not good odds to just expect he can’t make 80%+ of the plays.
Now, if a ball is hit to him, you make want to take advantage or test him on the basepaths. Different story
The latter point has already happened. KC went second to third on a routine fly to left.
 
TB- he missed exactly that point. Also- it isn’t like AR is not an elite athlete with speed, hand eye coordination and has been playing at this level in a harder and more high presser position. I get it, he may get himself in some sort of bind but it is not good odds to just expect he can’t make 80%+ of the plays.
Now, if a ball is hit to him, you make want to take advantage or test him on the basepaths. Different story


Not saying AR is not athletic. With that said you don’t automatically move from SS to the outfield without some mistakes. As Worm stated he let a runner take third because he did not position himself to make the catch and throw to either the cutoff or third. He actually just threw to second allowing the runner to easily advance. We will agree to disagree that a batter will not either try to pull a ball or go the other way to him.
 
I was listening on the radio while working on a home project. Why did Rosario go to the OF? What position?
 
I was listening on the radio while working on a home project. Why did Rosario go to the OF? What position?
JD Davis pulled up lame attempting to go to third. Mickey did say same injury as before and they actually thought about putting him in left after the injury
 
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Not saying AR is not athletic. With that said you don’t automatically move from SS to the outfield without some mistakes. As Worm stated he let a runner take third because he did not position himself to make the catch and throw to either the cutoff or third. He actually just threw to second allowing the runner to easily advance. We will agree to disagree that a batter will not either try to pull a ball or go the other way to him.
I think opposing batters can to some extent try to hit the ball in his direction. But not so much that it's a concern. Now his ability to field the position is a concern, but heck McNeil is out there, Smith was out there, (mixed results for each especially Smith) so why not Rosario(though long run he's a SS imo).
 
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I think opposing batters can to some extent try to hit the ball in his direction. But not so much that it's a concern. Now his ability to field the position is a concern, but heck McNeil is out there, Smith was out there, (mixed results for each especially Smith) so why not Rosario(though long run he's a SS imo).
I’m sure in the long run he will be fine. I’d rather the players be healthy and he play SS.
Regarding hitting the ball towards a player. I think of McNeil this year and the reason why he is either leading the league or close in BA. He can take the ball outside and go the other way or pull the inside pitch. Others like Alonso have power to all fields.
 
I thought winning this series was a must...1.5 out of the Wild Card spot..Indians coming up let’s get a sweep...and keep the momentum going for the big Braves series...
 
14 hits in the last 5 games for Rosario.

He batted .350 in July.

.368 in August, and that was before today and his 3 hits.

His emergence has been remarkable.
 
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I’m sure in the long run he will be fine. I’d rather the players be healthy and he play SS.
Regarding hitting the ball towards a player. I think of McNeil this year and the reason why he is either leading the league or close in BA. He can take the ball outside and go the other way or pull the inside pitch. Others like Alonso have power to all fields.
I can see what you are saying with McNeil, his bat control is pretty amazing, but he is an admitted see ball hit ball hitter. So he is going where the pitch allows.

Same goes for all fields power hitters. You don't hit a ball deep to the opposite field because you want to. You hit it the opposite way because it was a pitch on the outside of the plate(typically).
 
What are you the board F'n police now? It's a baseball observation, and not a good look for young kids to emulate. I always hated the player that thought he had to fire up his team by acting like a jack off.
I could care less about Gardner, the Yankees, or what you write. But you couldve mentioned that on the Yankee board. Its been a pretty good couple of weeks talking about Mets only here as theres been plenty to talk about without brining up the Yankees or that Yankee Triad coming over here talking shit for no reason. But Im the asshole who "dont like fun."
 
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I can see what you are saying with McNeil, his bat control is pretty amazing, but he is an admitted see ball hit ball hitter. So he is going where the pitch allows.

Same goes for all fields power hitters. You don't hit a ball deep to the opposite field because you want to. You hit it the opposite way because it was a pitch on the outside of the plate(typically).
This is why Mets made no sense in making that trade with Seattle since McNeil proved he could play 2B. OK, maybe they chose wrong between Broxton over Maybin. But they are in a bind now since theres not really an OF available at the deadline or at this time instead of moving Rosario out there when he's FINALLY hitting the ball.
 
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-9.0, -3.5, -1.5 (-1.0 with a Cubs loss tonight)

Not even mentioning those 20+ blown saves before this current run (they'd be in first if they win half those blown saves). But some of the recent losses are killing the Mets, esp with the WC spot. Hope its not too late.
 
-9.0, -3.5, -1.5 (-1.0 with a Cubs loss tonight)

Not even mentioning those 20+ blown saves before this current run (they'd be in first if they win half those blown saves). But some of the recent losses are killing the Mets, esp with the WC spot. Hope its not too late.
Too late? Ton of time left.
 
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-9.0, -3.5, -1.5 (-1.0 with a Cubs loss tonight)

Not even mentioning those 20+ blown saves before this current run (they'd be in first if they win half those blown saves). But some of the recent losses are killing the Mets, esp with the WC spot. Hope its not too late.
For not even mentioning those blown saves, you did a pretty good job of mentioning them.

But seriously folks, all teams lose games and the Mets are no exception. The recent losses are not killing the Mets. What is killing them is the hole they dug for themselves, that they may or may not be able to climb out of.
 
Rajai Davis hit a grand slam today at Syracuse so i would expect to see him called up. At least I hope so. Mickey also said jd Davis did NOT suffer a setback so appears to be good news. I ll be at Tuesday nights game against Cleveland. Tough series but this team reminds me of the 73 squad. Resilient! LFGM!!!
 
What is killing them is the hole they dug for themselves, that they may or may not be able to climb out of.
Look at it from the other side. None of the teams act like they want it. The beauty is the Mets get to play several of the teams in front of them. The Mets have a big say in how their season plays out
 
Look at it from the other side. None of the teams act like they want it. The beauty is the Mets get to play several of the teams in front of them. The Mets have a big say in how their season plays out
That's why they have to worry about beating the Nats, Braves, Cubs, Indians. Not get big headed over the Marlins, Royals, Pirates.
 
As a Met's fan who won't go to the Yankee's thread I'd like to know what he did.
You didn't have to go to the Yankee thread, it was on every sports news broadcast. He basically pitched a hissy fit, threw down his helmet,which came back up and hit himself in the mug,pretty funny,but bad optics for young kids to see. Plenty of Mets have embarrassed themselves over the years also. This wasn't a Yankee thing,not this time, just a part of the game I hate.
 
Tough remaining schedule however, 26 out of the 38 games are at the confines of home cooking. 1.5 games out of the wildcard spot (hopefully 1 after tonight's game) and this looks very doable.
 
Nothing is killing the Mets. They have their whole lives ahead of them. They are in a great spot.
 
Nothing is killing the Mets. They have their whole lives ahead of them. They are in a great spot.
I think "great spot" is a bit of an overstatement. Dodgers are in a great spot. Mets are in a multi-team dogfight. But, gotta be in it to win it!
 
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Now let’s hope he learns how to take a pitch.
He (Rosario) has! He'll never be Brandon Nimmo when it comes to working counts and drawing walks. But has done a MUCH better job in laying off the eye-level fastballs and the sliders six inches off the plate. And he's got the results to prove it!
 
I would say the Mets will be in good shape if they go 16-8 in the next 24 games.

*(I broke this down in simple math in saying they must win 2 of 3 games in each of their next 8, 3 game series)

*(Also went conservative with 16-8 since most of you still think the Mets can easily coast into a WC spot while the NL Central cannibalize each other. Remember... THIS IS STILL THE METS and IMO, they must squeeze everyone's neck with their foot (starting rotation) and go at least 20-5 to put all doubt to rest.)

Hopefully all the home games will be the difference this year.

 
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He (Rosario) has! He'll never be Brandon Nimmo when it comes to working counts and drawing walks. But has done a MUCH better job in laying off the eye-level fastballs and the sliders six inches off the plate. And he's got the results to prove it!
Got to keep showing that discipline when it counts.
 
He (Rosario) has! He'll never be Brandon Nimmo when it comes to working counts and drawing walks. But has done a MUCH better job in laying off the eye-level fastballs and the sliders six inches off the plate. . . .
I'm not so sure about that. He's certainly been hitting more of the balls he swings at. But his walks have not increased, which would show greater selectivity. That's why his BA and OBP are relatively close to each other. In fact, in August, he's got only 2 walks.

It's good that he's hot and maybe he's becoming better at contact. But the seeming lack of improved selectivity worries me that his improvement is not that vast just yet and that, until he becomes more selective, it may not be as sustainable. We'll see.

That said, his defense is also clearly improved. Suddenly he has range, and he attacks the ball in the field.
 
I'm not so sure about that. He's certainly been hitting more of the balls he swings at. But his walks have not increased, which would show greater selectivity. That's why his BA and OBP are relatively close to each other. In fact, in August, he's got only 2 walks.

It's good that he's hot and maybe he's becoming better at contact. But the seeming lack of improved selectivity worries me that his improvement is not that vast just yet and that, until he becomes more selective, it may not be as sustainable. We'll see.

That said, his defense is also clearly improved. Suddenly he has range, and he attacks the ball in the field.

14 hits in last 5 games...not sure he needs walks at this point. Would love to know how deep he is going into counts though and how many balls in the strikezone he is hitting. Sometimes plate discipline does not equal walks but better AB's...With Rosario, this seems to be the case. He is hitting the snot out of pitches in the strikezone and they are getting him to chase.
 
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The only meaningful stat I've seen on this is the lack of increase in walks, in fact the drop in walks in August. And it's clear that Rosario is hot. With that, I'm not sure I see the basis of concluding that he "seems to be" more selective. His better hitting can be explained by his being hot, shortening his swing, or something else. Increased selectivity will, however, result in increased walks, even if not a massive increase. We haven't seen that. In fact, the opposite. But we can all agree he's hitting the snot out of the ball and has been for a few weeks.
 
I think mathematically if they went 16-8 it’s impossible for them not to be a few games up as the lead wild card.
Every team would have to win every game that doesn’t involve another wild card team. Nats have a huge 5 game series vs Phillies coming up.

Brewers vs cards tonight. Gaining ground on someone tonight.

Nats pirates
Phils Sox
Mets Indians

https://www.espn.com/mlb/schedule
 
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