I have a feeling we're definitely going to be pointing back to the Cubs series after the season.
OT: 2019 Mets Season Thread
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As a Nats fan the Mets are the last team I want to see in a WC game. You guys have given us fits all season.
I look at as even if both the Braves and Cubs had won the series but we got just one f-ing game in each...we would still be right in the mix. It is actually amazing that we are still as close as we are.
The Cub series will end up being the one that kills us if we dont make it.
Knowing how MC has been managing...almost never see a starter go past 7 innings. Just like Matz a couple of games ago but Noah was doing even much better. Today was the type of game he may have been able to go 9 with 118 pitches or so and the last 2 innings would have been low stress pitching for the most part.
I'm sorry, but for starters and starting 8- it is go time.
Only guys in the field I am ok giving breathers to and never in the same game are Panik, Ramos, Frazier. And if sitting Panik or Frazier, McNeil comes into the infield. That is when guys like JL or R davis get a little playing time or late inning D, pinch running, etc
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The Mets are a scary WC team because they can throw deGrom at anyone...and he’s the best pitcher in either league...that’s a huge advantage...if they get into the WCG
Except whenever deGrom starts, odds are extremely high Mets score less than 2 runs.
Their inability to win games despite his consistent excellence is amazing. Even this season when the offense has woken up, they still can not get him run support.
Mickey Moron says he's playing his best team the rest of the way yet he could have started Nimmo Sunday night and it could have been the difference. Nimmo consistently gets on base. He can't keep playing Lagares and expect to win. Lagares is a late inning defensive replacement or the guy you arguably pinch-hit with just ahead of Matz in a 12-13 inning game at this point.
Some nitpicky stuff right here. It was Nimmo's first game up.
It is amazing that with almost 120 career wins and ‘no decisions” deGrom’s era is about 1.70
I believe he has 50+ ND and those games alone are about a 2.20
I don’t think I have ever seen a pitcher that can be this dominate and not win.
I don't remember the #'s but they put up a couple different stats on SNY game broadcast recently that were head shake inducing.
Something like 16-16 in his last 50 or so games where he has given up 3(might have been 2) or less runs. That was one, and I forget the other, but it was a painful stat. Feels like you are watching a brilliant career getting wasted.
Degrom vs. Mad Max again tonite. Let's hope Jake can channel Tom Terrific and give us the series today.
I mean not really nitpicky at all by Magoo. Honestly he should have been brought up for the Cubs series where we really could have used him. Besides the Cubs part though once he's up that's it he's ready to go and should be starting. We're in the middle of a pennant race and every game matters so it's all hands on deck.
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Their performance before August notwithstanding, those losses vs the Braves and Cubs are going to kill them.
Their performance before August notwithstanding, those losses vs the Braves and Cubs are going to kill them.
Cubs more than the Braves as that is the team they have to catch. If they had won 1 game against the Cubs they would only be 2 back.
The guy hadn't played in months, he played a grand total of 15 minor league games. And yeah he draws walks, but he was also batting .200 in the minors.
Not to mention it's not Mickey's call as to when he came back to the Major's.
Also note that Lagares was in Center for most of the hot streak. While Nimmo wasn't even playing baseball.
Yes he has to work on getting his timing back but average wise it doesn't matter. Like I said barring not being up for the Cubs series he still should have been in for the Phillies game. It was Mickey's call to sit him when he was back or supposedly is. I have no problem blaming BVW either he's been a disaster besides the Davis trade. Lagares hot streak was a mirage where he hit well 3 out of 5 games including that one 4-4. Last 14 days batting .139/.225/.222. Last 7 days even worse he's 0 for his last 16.
Nimmo playing time as he is just coming back is nitpicking at this point. But if he does well and Cano come back- what is the plan on this team? We have Davis/Conforto/McNeil currently playing the OF. Cano will be slotted at 2B if he is able to play and Frazier is not going to be regulated as only a PH.
It is 2 or less runs and I believe he has given up 2 or less in approx half his career starts. That in itself, mind blowing
Yep, In my fantasy leagues- When I start deGrom, I bench any Met hitters I have...
We're not serious about winning if Frazier isn't benched. McNeil, Alonso, Conforto, Davis, Ramos and Nimmo all need to start. That puts McNeil at 3B.
Cano AND Lowrie come back tonight so I have no idea what they're going to do. Will Lowrie start and play also? First time we'll be at full strength all year.
People seem to throw any concerns about defense out the window.
And maybe the hitting does out weigh the defense in these cases, but team defense was a major issue in the first half of the year, and Lagares certainly helped stabilize that when he got back into the lineup, you know the stretch of games where the Mets were on fire. People seem to forget that.
Also easy to ignore a couple bad throws by McNeil last night when Alonso is bailing him out with solid plays at first.
Defense is very important I agree. We can't afford to only score 1 or 2 runs a game though. You really want to bench Davis for Frazier because that puts McNeil in LF and Nimmo for Lagares?
Ya 2 or less makes more sense as it was "gosh darn that hurts" type of stat.
I have to admit I'm a bit of a fair weather fan, as I find losing baseball just unbearable to watch, so I haven't watched as much during the losing streak so I had not seen Lagares's recent #'s that were posted above. And yeah, that is begging for a change.
But during the win streak team defense was a major key. That goes for Lagares, Frazier, Guillorme and even the improved play or Rosario and Ramos. So I don't rule it out so quickly.
Now you are right McNeil needs to be in the game. As does Davis at this point(who can be anxiety inducing in left) but Nimmo? His walks are a good balance to a lineup that does not walk a whole lot, but he is batting .200 on the season, and was batting .200 in the minors as well. I don't see him as a guy who absolutely needs to be out there. Especially on his first game back to the majors. Remember Nimmo was playing a lot in the OF in the early part of the season, and the team was not especially good when he went on the IL.
I believe his injury cause some problem batting. His on base skills are crucial though in front of Alonso. Those solo shots turn into 2 runs. Look at the game Nimmo had yesterday and that's more of the player he was last year when he was a top offensive player because of those on base skills. I'm not putting much stock into the early bad start as long as he's fuly healthy.
That's fair, he's an interesting player that even with a .203 ba, he has an on base of .355.
Now I do think his .200 ba(though even there his OBA was .360) in the minors was likely due to rust, as I hope he has the injury behind him, but that is at least some reasoning to not insert him into the lineup on day 1.
I thought the adage was that a home team should play for a tie (since it can win on a walk-off). Playing the infield in, as the Phillies did, increased the chances that a ground ball would go through the infield and score the go-ahead run too.
You play who's hitting at the time. In Philly Frazier was killing it. On the last homestand Davis did nothing. Mcneil was in a tailspin before yesterday. Has even lost what was an 8-9 point lead in batting average. When you need offense you go with the hot hand. Defense is a wash because other than Lagares none of these guys will ever earn a gold glove. Not unless it's spray painted.
When and where was it announced that they're being activated? No news of it on the team website. Last I read they were hoping that Syracuse makes the playoffs so Lowrie can get some games in there.
Wasn't official yet but I saw it on Twitter somewhere and another board. They usually announce roster moves around 4 PM so will post official notice then when I see it!
Lowrie is NOT being activated today.
Syracuse finished tied for a playoff spot. They are playing a one game play-in game right now, and Lowrie is in the lineup.
12-9 is a .571 average. If the Mets could do that all the time, they'd win a wild card. After all, the teams they're competing with are barely above .500. I think, though 12-9 is not a sufficient sample to be a good test of whether a player helps his team.
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deGrom's career to date indicates to me that a very good pitcher can see a potential Hall of Fame consideration thwarted by the inability of his teammates to score runs and to allow inherited leads to dissipate. He's pitched to a career ERA of 2.67 and a won lost record of 63-49. He has started 166 games meaning in 54 games he had no decision. How different and more impressive would his record be if the Mets scored some runs when he pitched and the pen had not allowed the other team to come back after deGrom left the game. Different for the everyday player. If Alonso hits 500 home runs for the Mets and they never make the playoffs in his career, he's going to Cooperstown.
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