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OT: 2019 Mets Season Thread

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Just like he knew when he traded for Diaz.
I have no problem with him getting Diaz to be our closer after last year and also no problem with bringing in Familia as an 8th inning guy. The problem is what both cost us...
And now- no way either can be counted on for those roles.
 
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Jinx reversed. Cubs lose in 10. Milwaukee now +1.
They play the Pirates, Reds and Rockies, 3 games each, for the finish.

Nats have 3 with Marlins, 5 with Phillies and and 3 with Cleveland.

Cubs may have the worst schedule.

Best hope is for Nats to sink while Mets swim with the Marlins and have to take the Braves 2 out of 3.
 
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I just want to finish strong. What do we have, 11 games or something like that. Finish with 7-9 wins out of the remaining games. After the first half we had- would love to finish about 10 over.
 
I have no problem with him getting Diaz to be our closer after last year and also no problem with bringing in Familia as an 8th inning guy. The problem is what both cost us...
And now- no way either can be counted on for those roles.
So by "I have no problem" you mean "I have a problem." Complaining about what it cost is almost the the whole deal when it comes to trades and free agents, particularly with a Wilpon in charge. I mean, if he picked the players up off the waiver wire, he could have later just released them or demoted them. But, of course, that wasn't an option. Instead, he over-valued them so highly that he gave up valuable prospects and took on an aging hyper-overpaid player with an over-length contract for one, and he flat out overpaid another. So, getting back to what Van Numbnuts "knows" about plans, I'm not confident he knows much--other than how to completely empty a farm system. And now with a team that will receive no help from the minors and already-committed money up and down the roster he's hamstrung in making moves this offseason--which, given who he is, might be the best thing until he's gone. This is what happens when you hire someone without a stitch of qualifications for the job.
 
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They play the Pirates, Reds and Rockies, 3 games each, for the finish.

Nats have 3 with Marlins, 5 with Phillies and and 3 with Cleveland.

Cubs may have the worst schedule.

Best hope is for Nats to sink while Mets swim with the Marlins and have to take the Braves 2 out of 3.

I don’t know if you can see this ...but the Mets catching the nationals is crazy. 5 out with 10 to go. Mets need to go 8-2 and the nats 2-8 . Mets need to win and need major help from the pirates, who stink.
 
So by "I have no problem" you mean "I have a problem." Complaining about what it cost is almost the the whole deal when it comes to trades and free agents, particularly with a Wilpon in charge. I mean, if he picked the players up off the waiver wire, he could have later just released them or demoted them. But, of course, that wasn't an option. Instead, he over-valued them so highly that he gave up valuable prospects and took on an aging hyper-overpaid player with an over-length contract for one, and he flat out overpaid another. So, getting back to what Van Numbnuts "knows" about plans, I'm not confident he knows much--other than how to completely empty a farm system. And now with a team that will receive no help from the minors and already-committed money up and down the roster he's hamstrung in making moves this offseason--which, given who he is, might be the best thing until he's gone. This is what happens when you hire someone without a stitch of qualifications for the job.
You are correct that it is the deals themselves and what it cost us that make these two moves horrendous. Going for Diaz and Familia in the roles they were brought here for, was not the issue. Most people thought Diaz was a good closer and while Familia was not a good closer, he was a fairly good relief pitcher. No One foresaw the disastrous seasons they would have.
But because of the “deals” BVW should be shown the door and Wilson’s should hang their heads.

What really made it reality is to have call ups this Sept and not look forward to see a single player with any hope for the future...
 
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You are correct that it is the deals themselves and what it cost us that make these two moves horrendous. Going for Diaz and Familia in the roles they were brought here for, was not the issue. Most people thought Diaz was a good closer and while Familia was not a good closer, he was a fairly good relief pitcher. No One foresaw the disastrous seasons they would have.
But because of the “deals” BVW should be shown the door and Wilson’s should hang their heads.

What really made it reality is to have call ups this Sept and not look forward to see a single player with any hope for the future...
I understand what you're saying here, but I'm not sure I completely agree with it. Yes, Diaz was a good closer, but for one year. Previous years he was ordinary, but not outstanding. And Familia was a good reliever, but not great. That's where GM talent and judgment comes in. Can that GM tell whether Diaz was someone who would continue to pitch the way he did last year? Can he determine whether Familia was going to improve his command and stay out of the bad counts that have plagued him? For now, it seems he was wrong and wrong.

You can't judge a GM by whether the deal looked good from the outside perspective of fans, commentators or even other GMs. The GM has to be right, and right enough times to build a top team. There are guys who do that, and they are the good GMs. And there are guys who don't, and they are the bad ones. And then there are guys like Van Numbnuts who not only don't, but also don't have single line on their resume to suggest that they would ever be good at it. The Wilpons might as well have picked somebody out of a crowd to be the GM.
 
To your final question, we are better off with Lugo as a starter, and the trio of Wilson, Familia, and Diaz as the 7-8-9 relievers. That was the 2019 plan which failed, but I think it will be the 2020 Plan A. We've got a lot invested in Familia and Diaz, and we need them to produce as the back of their baseball cards say they should.
I think BVW knows that can not be Plan A.
What choice does he have? As a couple of posters have stated, BVW has already spent all his available capital (both human and financial). He can't make any big signings or big trades. And even if he could, there are no guarantees of success, as we are all painfully aware.
 
I don’t know if you can see this ...but the Mets catching the nationals is crazy. 5 out with 10 to go. Mets need to go 8-2 and the nats 2-8 . Mets need to win and need major help from the pirates, who stink.
In looking at even the current 2nd WC team the Brewers I am looking at this. They are 3 games ahead in the loss column. The Mets have 10 games remaining. Even if we were to go 9-1 down the stretch Milwaukee would have to lose 4 more games of the 9 they have remaining to even forge a tie. If it were just the Cubs that would be one thing because they have 2 series left with the Cards, including the one in which they lost the 1st game last night. But where are 4 losses on that schedule that Milwaukee has left? :Unhappy::flush:
 
In looking at even the current 2nd WC team the Brewers I am looking at this. They are 3 games ahead in the loss column. The Mets have 10 games remaining. Even if we were to go 9-1 down the stretch Milwaukee would have to lose 4 more games of the 9 they have remaining to even forge a tie. If it were just the Cubs that would be one thing because they have 2 series left with the Cards, including the one in which they lost the 1st game last night. But where are 4 losses on that schedule that Milwaukee has left? :Unhappy::flush:

Mets need sweep the reds and then sweep the marlins . See where the chips fall by Thursday night .
 
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Mets need sweep the reds and then sweep the marlins . See where the chips fall by Thursday night .
I know people will complain about me saying this but: the Mets cannot play around and have to sweep the Reds and Pirates. IDC if the Reds have 2 of the best ERA guys in 2019, they HAVE TO SWEEP THEIR WAY into the Braves series and take it from there.

And with the Bullsh** first half they had, it STILL may not be enough if the Brewers, Cubs, Nationals take care of business.
 
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I know people will complain about me saying this but: the Mets cannot play around and have to sweep the Reds and Pirates. IDC if the Reds have 2 of the best ERA guys in 2019, they HAVE TO SWEEP THEIR WAY into the Braves series and take it from there.

And with the Bullsh** first half they had, it STILL may not be enough if the Brewers, Cubs, Nationals take care of business.

This is what will happen. Mets still in it by next weekend and Atlanta kicks their ass.
 
I know people will complain about me saying this but: the Mets cannot play around and have to sweep the Reds and Pirates. IDC if the Reds have 2 of the best ERA guys in 2019, they HAVE TO SWEEP THEIR WAY into the Braves series and take it from there.

And with the Bullsh** first half they had, it STILL may not be enough if the Brewers, Cubs, Nationals take care of business.
One problem with your scenario. Mets don't play the Pirates this year any more. Did you mean the Fish?
 
Simply can’t hang with the Pirates. At least they helped get our season on track.
 
What choice does he have? As a couple of posters have stated, BVW has already spent all his available capital (both human and financial). He can't make any big signings or big trades. And even if he could, there are no guarantees of success, as we are all painfully aware.
He has to figure something out. Maybe in KC you can pull that, but in NY, if that is plan A, he will get lambasted. And if they again implode as a bullpen he'd be fired.

I mean they went away from it already, they won't go back to it. Not as plan A to start next year.
 
Some of you have criticized Calloway for his habit of resting players at weird times. Try this on for size: Phillies manager Gabe Kapler benched J.T. Realmuto tonight even though the Phillies can't afford to lose a single name. Kapler wouldn't even let Realmutto DH (the game is at Cleveland). "He needs a blow," Kapler insisted. Realmuto has not been going really well the past few days, but he's a lot better than the second-string catcher both at the plate and defensively.
 
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Brewers doing what you're supposed to do when going up against teams just playing out the string. Jump on them quickly and not let them get any ideas. Mets......not so much.
 
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Nimmo and McNeil at the top of the lineup are starting to remind me a little of Dykstra and Backman in the mid 80s.
In their style of play...love watching these guys play ball. Hard and fun. Just need Nimmo to make more contact at times. Between walks and strikeouts...he must have highest % of ABs without putting a ball in play.
McNeil is starting to look like our own George Brett K Pucket type of player.
 
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