OT: 2019 Mets Season Thread
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McNeil and very little else. Think about it. As a team they had 4 hits. McNeil had two of them. One of the others was by the pitcher. Just a pathetic lineup they've put together. Forget about pulling their weight. They're rolling out guys not even batting their weight.
Zero. Chance. Of. That. Happening.
First of all, what does "Blow it up" even mean? When most fans (not saying you) throw that term around, they mean get rid of all the underperforming spare parts that no one wants. When you're losing, you have a lot of those spare parts. But what would that accomplish? Answer: it makes room for you to bring up all your topflight MLB-ready prospects. Problem is, Mets ain't got none of those.
You wanna blow it up? First thing you do is offer up deGrom to the highest bidder, with the currency being the topflight MLB-ready prospects that you ain't got none of. Zero chance of that happening, not given his shiny new nine-figure contract.
Mets ownership had come to a fork in the road a year or so ago. One signpost said "Blow it up". The other said "Go for it". They chose the latter path, as evidenced by their trade of Kelenic and Dunn. They aren't turning back now.
It's starting to feel like the Wilpons are looking to trash the season so that they can move the team to Florida.
That actually could happen I think. As you say, Callaway is not BVW's guy. I personally think it would be premature, but none of us know how long a leash BVW is holding here.
If a change is made, I would not be surprised if the pendulum swings in the opposite direction. BVW could go from a player's manager like Callaway, to an ass-kicking type like Wally Backman. Note that I said LIKE Wally Backman - not actually Backman himself. I doubt that Backman, currently managing in the Indy leagues, is on anybody's radar screen but his own.
Ain't that the truth. Last week I perused the Mets top 30 prospects list to see how they're faring and it's sad. Let's just say they need to score big in the upcoming draft because the cupboard is bare.
Alonso, Cano/Lowrey, Rosario, Davis/Lowrey, McNeil, Lageras/Nimmo, Conforto, Ramos
How F-ing hard is it to figure this out. That is your daily team with a few rests here and there.
We just went around the rotation a couple of times and the only bad start was Vargas last game and even then, he kept us in a game. deGromm, thor, Matz, Wheeler should have been 7-1 or 6-2 at worst with their starts.
They can't get rid of this Manager soon enough.
How F-ing hard is it to figure this out. That is your daily team with a few rests here and there.
We just went around the rotation a couple of times and the only bad start was Vargas last game and even then, he kept us in a game. deGromm, thor, Matz, Wheeler should have been 7-1 or 6-2 at worst with their starts.
They can't get rid of this Manager soon enough.
If what Boomer and Gio commented on what Terry Collins said on a studio show was true, then it's a f***ing disgrace and I will apologize to TC (like he would give a shite lol). Forgot what show TC said this on but he said that the lineups cards were already on his desk before every game. This may explain alot on why certain players played all the time and why certain players were doomed to sit until they were released to do well elsewhere.
And since it looks like history repeating itself this year, it's higher than Sandy's and BVWs pay grade.
BVW has been an abject disaster with his moves up to this point. The only thing I can give him credit for working out so far is having Alonso up right away. Davis in a small sample looks good but he can't field but I'll even give him that one. Everything else has been bad.
Unfortunately reality has set in on a bunch of those guys who actually started off hitting worth a damn. This team does miss Cespedes big time. Mcneil, Rosario, Cano, Cespedes, Alonso, Conforto had the making of a formidable top 6 on paper. Cano and Conforto would have to step it up big time though.
Maybe the constant benchings of Nimmo, Conforto, Davis, others after multiple hit games screws those players up in being consistently good at the plate.
Heard the SNY talking about this on a broadcast as well.
WTF is the point of having a manager?
Might as well let the fans select the lineup. Get a sponsor and make it a daily contest. At least the Coupons' make a few bucks and the fans get some engagement with the team.
Shots fired! I repeat, shots fired!
Terry Collins and Kevin Burkhardt have a ton of dirt on what goes on with the Mets. Burkhardt had that look of I know where you want to go with this Terry. It sounded like Terry wanted to get somethings off his chest.[roll]
I don't put it all on BVW. This is year 1...hell, it takes Ash 8 years to execute a 3 year plan.
But Ramos is a huge upgrade over last year and while he isnt a .300 hitter with 20 HR or gold glove- he should give us more then we have had back there in a while. Realmuto is much better but then we would be missing McNeil, conforto etc...maybe even Alonso
Cano is Cano but Diaz is the real deal. Plus we got rid of two fairly large contracts.
Jerrys- mistake
Starting pitching is all still here.
Alonso is up.
Davis is a good player to have and Lowrey is a professional.
Team is a lot better in 2019 then it was in 2017/2018.
Now, what does he do from here?
Our problem is that the manager or whoever is calling the shots, is an idiot. Nimmo gets 3 hits, sit him and get cold again. McNeil gets 3 hits, sit him, thankfully he is still hitting. Davis gets 3 hits, sit him. Todd comes back- let's **** up the chem and put his ofer bat in there everyday.
Left handed bat off the bench and great defensive replacement, send his ass back to the minors.
Run out of RP's before the game even begins? WTF?
Need I say more. Lineups and bullpen , are the only thing a f-ing manager in baseball does.
But Ramos is a huge upgrade over last year and while he isnt a .300 hitter with 20 HR or gold glove- he should give us more then we have had back there in a while. Realmuto is much better but then we would be missing McNeil, conforto etc...maybe even Alonso
Cano is Cano but Diaz is the real deal. Plus we got rid of two fairly large contracts.
Jerrys- mistake
Starting pitching is all still here.
Alonso is up.
Davis is a good player to have and Lowrey is a professional.
Team is a lot better in 2019 then it was in 2017/2018.
Now, what does he do from here?
Our problem is that the manager or whoever is calling the shots, is an idiot. Nimmo gets 3 hits, sit him and get cold again. McNeil gets 3 hits, sit him, thankfully he is still hitting. Davis gets 3 hits, sit him. Todd comes back- let's **** up the chem and put his ofer bat in there everyday.
Left handed bat off the bench and great defensive replacement, send his ass back to the minors.
Run out of RP's before the game even begins? WTF?
Need I say more. Lineups and bullpen , are the only thing a f-ing manager in baseball does.
I really think Todd is getting the PT now because they are going to try to trade him. Sadly, he does not look like he has anything left and thus cannot be traded. They need to DFA him by the end of the month. I would rather see what we have in Davis over the course of a season than watch Todd swing and miss himself into oblivion.
What I mean is build for the future rather than acquiring high-priced low performing band-aids like Cano to try to fool the fan base into thinking they can be competitive.
The Mets with Wilpon always go into everything half-assed. This roster is not talented enough to make the playoffs. They are not one or two players away so you either build with you e.g., “blow it up” or you go after real players like Harper, Machado, etc. and spend real money to supplement whta you have.
Well some great news for the real Mr. Met, Ed Kranepool recently found a donor for a kidney transplant and will have surgery today. Best of luck to him and a speedy recovery.
BTW. Why haven't the Mets retired his #?
BTW. Why haven't the Mets retired his #?
I don't see Ramos as a huge upgrade over Mesoraco who I think the Mets slept on.
If the Mets slept on Mesoraco, the other 29 teams are still asleep. Nobody else offered him a contract. When he exercised his contractual opt-out, nobody wanted him.
This is an excellent post. Why you traded away Kelenic for a fading player with 5 years left and a great pitcher who can only impact half the games in your season is beyond me. They need to cut the bleeding this summer and get some good prospects into the system.
How about trade Diaz and Cano back to the Mariners since they have hopes of the playoffs? :chairshot:
Corey Oswalt got caught in the revolving door. Was up exactly one day, and today is sent back down to make room for Funt. Who BTW will be rocking #68, which worked well for Jeff McNeil last year.
Meanwhile down on the farm...
You've heard of pitchers with an ERA of dinnertime? Well, America's Favorite Outfielder is currently rocking a batting average of lunchtime. One twenty-five. You've never taken a late lunch?
You've heard of pitchers with an ERA of dinnertime? Well, America's Favorite Outfielder is currently rocking a batting average of lunchtime. One twenty-five. You've never taken a late lunch?
Umm, for the more casual fan, who is America's favorite Outfielder that you are talking about?
Tim Tebow of course. The title is tongue in cheek. The batting average is real.
Except...an everyday player barely ever impacts that many games while every time a closer comes in a game it is impact time. Diaz would have been worth at least 10 more wins if not more last year.
The deal in itself isn’t bad if we had real owners who didn’t penny punch so much. And the fact we didn’t get them to eat enough of Cano’s Contract
Did not realize he was still washing around the minors. Saw him on an AJ Perri commercial today.
No team has signed Kimbrel and Keuchel either. You think they're better than a bunch of pitchers with jobs right now slick?
No offense but this is all incorrect. An everyday player can possibly impact any game while even a stud closer can only impact games in which the lineup has given him the lead. Furthermore we have these rules around Diaz where he can't make an impact in other situations unless we're winning or have a tie game at home in the 9th. Oh and he blew the 2 games where we did have that. No closer is +10 WAR.
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