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OT: 2019 Mets Season Thread

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If they can't finish the game, will the 9th inning be erased and the Mets win in rain shortened game 4-2 after 8 innings?
 
Did the umpires have reservations for a Gentlemen's Club somewhere in town?That game could have been resumed.They cheated the fans out of a conclusion.
 
Last night's game just pissed me off. Not only having the umps do their half ass 9 minute delay but then the Met's f-ing up another deGrom start which is getting to the point of just being so f-ing bizarre. they pointed out that in the last 1.5 years, he has had 32 games of giving up 2 runs or less and the Met's are 16-16 in those games.
And then to piss me off more...suspend the game after a long night. I was pissed off sitting at home- I couldnt imagine how much that would have sucked if I were at the game.
 
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If you want to bitch about Diaz' pitching, feel free. But his ATTITUDE? What do you know about his attitude?

I think I get it. You like it when deGrom slams his glove into the dugout wall when he gives up a run. You don't like it when Diaz doesn't. Different people, different personalities.
Yes damn right I do. I ll take players who play with passion any day such as McNeil, Brett Gardner, Daniel Murphy etc over I don’t give a damn types such as Diaz. And yes I loved it when degrom threw his glove. Maybe you need to realize when the Mets were successful they had players who cared and played with passion unlike the majority of robots this team keeps putting out on the field of which Diaz is.
 
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Yes damn right I do. I ll take players who play with passion any day such as McNeil, Brett Gardner, David Murphy etc over I don’t give a damn types such as Diaz. And yes I loved it when degrom threw his glove. Maybe you need to realize when the Mets were successful they had players who cared and played with passion unlike the majority of robots this team keeps putting out on the field of which Diaz is.
Just how do you know Diaz does not give a damn? Some players have a fire burning inside, and they choose not to or just don't show it on the outside.
 
Just how do you know Diaz does not give a damn? Some players have a fire burning inside, and they choose not to or just don't show it on the outside.
I largely agree. Familia is very fiery. Whenever he has a bad outing; which has been often this season, he comes off the field cursing to high heavens. That fire hasn't helped him get outs though. The way Gregg Jeffries used to throw tantrums I guess he should have had a hall of fame career.
 
Just how do you know Diaz does not give a damn? Some players have a fire burning inside, and they choose not to or just don't show it on the outside.
I agree. But when I see a closer who has blown several games with very bad optics, I ll have more respect for him when I see him yell or throw a temper tantrum as opposed to speaking non chalently about what went wrong. I like volatile tempers with athletes. Shows they care.
 
The problem as many have said in the past starts with ownership. They continue to get bamboozled by con artists like BVW. It is becoming apparent that he scammed the Mets into trading for Cano (washed up) and Diaz (vastly overrated). They should have hired the guy from Tampa Bay. Smart owners make the right decisions more often than wrong ones. Wilpons are not smart especially Jeff Wilpon.
 
Yes damn right I do. I ll take players who play with passion any day such as McNeil, Brett Gardner, David Murphy etc over I don’t give a damn types such as Diaz. And yes I loved it when degrom threw his glove. Maybe you need to realize when the Mets were successful they had players who cared and played with passion unlike the majority of robots this team keeps putting out on the field of which Diaz is.
While I like players with fire, you just never know what kind of fire they have by how they act on the field. David Wright, Jeter, Bernie, Rivera, Seaver, Ripken, Gywnn, Mantle hell- even go to football and Sweetness C Martin etc...Guys all with a deep fire in them but at times almost robotic but always professional. On the other hand you had guys like O'Neil, G Carter, Piazza, Cone, G Brett etc that also had a fire but showed it outwardly. So, it doesnt mean a damn thing how you show it, it is 100% on the inside.
 
The problem as many have said in the past starts with ownership. They continue to get bamboozled by con artists like BVW. It is becoming apparent that he scammed the Mets into trading for Cano (washed up) and Diaz (vastly overrated). They should have hired the guy from Tampa Bay. Smart owners make the right decisions more often than wrong ones. Wilpons are not smart especially Jeff Wilpon.
I was really surprised that they went with Brodie over the Tampa guy. He was my first choice as well. He has brought Tampa into a first place tie and has a fraction of the budget the Yanks or Sox have. I would have thought the Coupons would have been impressed by that.
I am just speculating here, but perhaps the reason he did not get the job is he told Jeff he was going to run the baseball end of the show w/o interference. Brodie seems more inclined to take a consultative approach with Jeff. I think the Tampa owner is more of a hands off guy, smart enough to let the baseball people handle baseball decisions.
 
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I was really surprised that they went with Brodie over the Tampa guy. He was my first choice as well. He has brought Tampa into a first place tie and has a fraction of the budget the Yanks or Sox have. I would have thought the Coupons would have been impressed by that.
I am just speculating here, but perhaps the reason he did not get the job is he told Jeff he was going to run the baseball end of the show w/o interference. Brodie seems more inclined to take a consultative approach with Jeff. I think the Tampa owner is more of a hands off guy, smart enough to let the baseball people handle baseball decisions.

I would say that is 100% why he didnt get the job.

As for BVW...I do not think he has done a good job and it was just a weird choice in the first place. I can also see why he may have gravitated toward his prior clients as they were his comfort zone. But, I don't think he was specifically targeting his ex clients for any personal gain as many seem to think. It was because he just didnt have experience to do anything different.
 
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To speculate a little further, its fascinating to think of the make up of this team if the Tampa guy got the job. I think he would have signed a Marwan Gonzalez over trading for Broxton and LeMiehu would have been the utility guy over Lowrie. Cano deal probably does not happen but I would have been interested to see who he would have brought in as a closer. Oh well, water under the bridge.
 
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To speculate a little further, its fascinating to think of the make up of this team if the Tampa guy got the job. I think he would have signed a Marwan Gonzalez over trading for Broxton and LeMiehu would have been the utility guy over Lowrie. Cano deal probably does not happen but I would have been interested to see who he would have brought in as a closer. Oh well, water under the bridge.
And this is why the Mets will always do Mets things while Dodgers and Cubs will keep playing for the pennant.
 
Goldschmitt is very good/great but DeJong
is batting .900 vs Mets, you can’t let him beat you. Of course Goldie GIDP’s after go ahead single.
 
Tough loss. Diaz needs to get it together. And next time Alonso needs to keep his mouth shut. Just read about that too.
I don't think that Alonso, or anyone in a baseball uniform for that matter, could influence the umpires' decision on whether to stop the game.

And if he did (which he didn't IMHO) then more power to him. I guarantee you that NOBODY on the Mets wanted that game stopped in that situation. Who wants to hang around the clubhouse for hours? Get three outs and get the hell home.

Yes I know that the umps called the game very quickly after the delay. No way they do that if the score were not tied. They'd have waited to get the game in. Mets were not getting away with a rain-shortened W.
 
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Tough loss. Diaz needs to get it together. And next time Alonso needs to keep his mouth shut. Just read about that too.
But I'm sure Diaz has an impeccable attitude and it's killing him inside...:).....watch for him to the IL soon...elbow issues.....
 
What pissed me off about the continuation of yesterday's game today (geez) is again, the lack of emotion from this team. On the other hand, the Cardinals came out on fire in the 10th inning......just a big difference in preparation by the teams......have unfortunately seen this movie too many times
 
With the 3 Major moves made by Brodie, he gets an F.....

- Diaz / Cano trade
- Familia
- Lowrie

The Familia and Lowire moves were headscratchers from the beginning......

Yes, I was also surprised that Chaim Bloom (I believe that's his name) lost out to Brodie in the final derby of the GM Sweepstakes.....Need pedigree from teams that understand how to win; how to draft; how to assess analytics etc

And let me add pertaining to Calloway:

1. Why is Juan Lagares and his .185 average in the lineup every other day Why? Gomez has been producing.....

2. Why do you keep putting Familia and his 7.00 ERA out there in meaningful situations......

Any logic to the above that I am missing?

This is the end of Calloway......he won't survive the upcoming road trip
 
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Familia historically has been shaky at times. But the one thing he did not do, is give up home runs. Gary just mentioned that in 2016, Familia gave up one home run all year! Just doubled that in one inning.
 
With the 3 Major moves made by Brodie, he gets an F.....

- Diaz / Cano trade
- Familia
- Lowrie

The Familia and Lowire moves were headscratchers from the beginning......

Yes, I was also surprised that Chaim Bloom (I believe that's his name) lost out to Brodie in the final derby of the GM Sweepstakes.....Need pedigree from teams that understand how to win; how to draft; how to assess analytics etc

And let me add pertaining to Calloway:

1. Why is Juan Lagares and his .185 average in the lineup every other day Why? Gomez has been producing.....

2. Why do you keep putting Familia and his 7.00 ERA out there in meaningful situations......

Any logic to the above that I am missing?

This is the end of Calloway......he won't survive the upcoming road trip

Ramos also. I'll give that one a C- at this point still leaving the grade at an F. I hated the Cano deal, hated the Lowrie signing, actually liked Familia deal, and was mediocre on the Ramos sign but really wanted Grandal.
 
The Mets will become sellers and players who could / should expected to be traded and hopefully get some MLB or good MILB talent:

1. Wheeler
2. Noah (possibly as return will be good)
3. Vargas - expiring contract I believe and trade him when he's at highest value - though return back will be minimal.
4. Dom Smith - like him but he's not an OF and he ain't playing ahead of Alonso.....
5. Frazier
6. Diaz (remote possibility but I'm sure you can get good talent back)
7. Wilson Ramos

Others who I wish would be dealt but can't are: Cano; Familia; Lowrie; Nimmo
 
Hard disagree on Nimmo.

Mets went "All In" this offseason and flopped. I can't see them selling much because they want to look like contenders. Mediocrity is the name of the game for the Wilpons.
 
A stat on Diaz that is eye opening:

Since the end of April, he has pitched in 17 games:

- 5.29 ERA
- 3 blown saves
- 4 losses

Hate to say it but shortly he will land on the I.L and there will be some disturbing news with his elbow......he ain't this bad....and I don't see the velocity with his fastball at all as of late....

Time to make Lugo the "interim" stopper......however it's a very very shaky bridge to get there.....
 
Good news: Baty signed and hopefully Allan will as well shortly......and Brodie trades them for..........xxxxxxxxx
 
What pissed me off about the continuation of yesterday's game today (geez) is again, the lack of emotion from this team. On the other hand, the Cardinals came out on fire in the 10th inning......just a big difference in preparation by the teams......have unfortunately seen this movie too many times

It starts with the comatose manager.
 
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A stat on Diaz that is eye opening:

Since the end of April, he has pitched in 17 games:

- 5.29 ERA
- 3 blown saves
- 4 losses

Hate to say it but shortly he will land on the I.L and there will be some disturbing news with his elbow......he ain't this bad....and I don't see the velocity with his fastball at all as of late....

Time to make Lugo the "interim" stopper......however it's a very very shaky bridge to get there.....

Just sign Kimbrel to pitch the 9th - oh wait
 
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I stand corrected. Bullpen chokes away ANOTHER lead.
Help may be on the way. Remember the name Ryley Gilliam. 5th round pick in 2018 (exactly one year ago) who has already made it to AAA Syracuse. In one year!
https://www.sny.tv/mets/news/prospe...ould-land-him-with-mets-this-season/308047494

Some other names to keep an eye on:
Stephen Nogosek
Stephen Villines
Ryder Ryan
Matt Blackham

And of course there are about a half dozen other prospects/suspects whom we've already seen, but who may have room for further development.
 
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One more thought on bullpen: Mets are currently paying, and will continue to pay, for the buying spree they went on in 2015-2016. The currency was young arms. One of those was Jon Gant whom we saw tonight. They tried to replenish in the fire sale of 2017, but so far none of the guys they have brought back have worked out.
 
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