OT: 2019 Mets Season Thread
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Rosario's job is to go all out to catch the ball until he is called off. Maybe Smith didn't call, or maybe Rosario didn't hear him.
If Rosario doesn't go after that ball, and Smith loses it in the lights or something, we'd be ripping Rosario for lack of hustle. And probably blaming Cano for being such a bad influence.[winking]
Bottom 10, no score, Giants have a man on first and two outs. Rhame in complete command as we would expect. Batter hits a pop to shallow left. Then came the clusterf*ck.
1) Smith, sensing a collision with Rosario (which did not happen) shies away and drops the ball.
2) At this point Smith's only thought should be to keep the baserunner from scoring. Fire the ball home! But for some unknown reason, he throws to Frazier at third, a base which the runner had already rounded.
3) Frazier fires a strike to the plate. Except that Ramos isn't covering! He's 10 feet up the line. I guess he was backing up the throw to Frazier. At least he meant well.
That play was worthy of the original Mets of 1962.
This wasnt exactly shallow left, where you could see Rosario going out there. This was regular LF and there was no way Rosario was going to catch that.
And good catch on Ramos letting that perfect strike go by him instead of having a play at the plate.
You are putting Smith's inability to catch the ball on Ramos? Glad you are not my manager .
Comedy of errors on that play. Pitcher was not covering or backing up home plate either. He was somewhere between home plate and the first base line.
Seems to me it should have been the pitcher backing up third base so that the catcher could protect home. If the catcher is going to back up the throw to third, the pitcher has to cover home plate. The first is better because a catcher will do a much better job tagging a runner at the plate than a pitcher will. They teach this kind of stuff at every level in spring training.
Show me where I blamed Ramos for Smith's error? I said that Rosario MAY have gone out too far into LF to freak an inexperienced Smith out on that play. All I said about Ramos was that I agreed with someone else about him letting a good throw by him, even though it was probably too late for a play at the plate.
Yeah, lets trade Smith for a middle teliever with a 6.36 ERA and 2 Tommy John Surgeries...
And way to bang the pole, McNeil!!!
And way to bang the pole, McNeil!!!
Knowing the Wilpons, they would only trade deGrom for 2 middle relievers and Cash Considerations.
Let’s just say the 1/2 game off worked wonders for Pete. Pregame they were saying he needed to back to driving the ball to right center.
Sorry, meant Rosario. That ball was clearly catchable by Smith and Rosario was not near it. Anyway, the LF has to take charge on that play.
They already have Cash Considerations. Although I guess they could DFA him and then reacquire him.
True on that Smith shouldve had the ball and shouldve called Rosario off. Hopefully he'll learn from this in a Mets uniform for years to come.
You seem to be forgetting that Dom is neither a natural or experienced outfielder.
First and foremost...who here has played baseball? SS and CF do not stop chasing any ball until they are called off. I can't believe anyone is trying to blame a SS for going to hard for a damn ball. Different story if he was called off early by Smith or it was a normal fly ball.
On another note...I think we can all stop thinking that Smith has no power. In less than 500 career AB's he has 24 HR and 27 doubles.
On another note...I think we can all stop thinking that Smith has no power. In less than 500 career AB's he has 24 HR and 27 doubles.
Well this is part of the Met's problem right? No true center fielder and a couple infielders on the corners.
And McNeil has certainly botched his share of balls out there as well.
I thought there was always some expected power in Smith's scouting report and he is certainly coming around as a hitter. But, while those are decent power #'s do consider that this is a record breaking HR year, and he is platooning, he is getting favorable matchups.
I was going to mention that as well. But...one of the things I do like is that McNeil/Smith/Davis are all learning the OF on the fly and at the major league level and while they are not yet even average, they are holding their own for the most part.
I really want to see all three as part of the every day lineup next year. No matter how we have to do it.
BTW- as I was thinking about these younger players, it got me thinking about Rosario. I don't know WTF is going on with his defense but because it seems he has been here forever already, I think we do forget just how young he is too.
Wasn't too long ago we were seeing Smith and Rosario come up together as the kids...I think he is also only 23 or something like that.
23 for Rosario. And I thought the report on him coming up was he was a good fielder. Not sure how often guys who go through a tough stretch like this ever come around to being a good fielder.
As per Davis and McNeil, I'm OK with Davis out there and letting him learn, McNeil I'd bring back to 2nd base.
But the silver lining of this season going south is it allows time for these guys to play and learn these positions and for the team to make evaluations(though that's a sticky point).
Not happening for at least 2 years. McNeil will either be OF or 3B. My preference at this point is keep him OF and bring Davis into 3B. Regardless if McNeil becomes above average or not in the OF, he will at least be ok and hustle like crazy and we know for sure, it has not made any difference in is hitting.
I am just not sure what to do with Smith. He may be one of our best bargaining chips with the year he is having but would hate to see him go. I can see him being a .290 30 doubles 30 HR guy for the next 10 years if he is traded somewhere else.
Lockett got a nice post game celebration for his first major league win. He was dreadful in his first 2 games, but did well yesterday. Think Gary/Keith said he did not have a single count with 3 balls yesterday.
Only throwing 58 pitches in five innings, Lockett held the Giants to only one run on five hits with three strike outs. Lockett took the win (1-1), the first of his big league career in his third start for the Mets.
Only throwing 58 pitches in five innings, Lockett held the Giants to only one run on five hits with three strike outs. Lockett took the win (1-1), the first of his big league career in his third start for the Mets.
Im shocked they havent sent him to Syracuse yet. Juat keep this guy in the rotation until further notice.
Rosario has really sucked lately, too.
I am absolutely certain that they will keep Lockett in the rotation until further notice. If Wheeler is activated on Tuesday, further notice may be given then.
Lugo needs to re-learn how to throw the curve.
Pitch 1 over Posey's head, but hits the bat. Strike.
Pitch 2- Pillar, falls of the mound while throwing, but a called strike.
Pitch 1 over Posey's head, but hits the bat. Strike.
Pitch 2- Pillar, falls of the mound while throwing, but a called strike.
Not for nothing but Wilson seems to be a good signing. So, at least BVW has that. Along with keeping Alonso, Smith and Davis with the club at the start of the season.
But that is about it...
But that is about it...
If you like Davis, you have to give BVW credit for acquiring him, not just keeping him. Plus Lockett, another BVW acquisition, looks like he may work out.
But so far at least, it looks like he got the big one wrong. Jury (as opposed to Jeurys) is still out though.
Not getting pitching Diaz only 1 inning. Only three 11 pitches and tomorrow’s an off day.
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