The lack of preparedness should have every leader in this state removed from office.
Lack of water, and crazy winds.A lot of missing information. Why would be people be angry at the Fire Chief for lack of water in the hydrants? That is a public utilities issue. The Fire Chief is not responsible for supply water to the hydrants.
From the article you quoted:
"When she was nominated to her position in 2022, she had been with the fire department for 22 years, having been a firefighter, paramedic, engineer, fire inspector, captain, battalion chief, assistant chief, fire marshal and deputy chief. She became Los Angeles' first female fire marshal in 2016. When she took the firefighter exam in the late 1990s, she ranked among the top 50 out of 16,000 applicants."
Lack of water, and crazy winds.
But people on the internet doing the blame game thing is to be expected.
I didn't specifically blame her for the lack of water supply...but maybe that she be a top priority of a Fire Chief in dealing with the public officials, no? And you're right there is more to this story...
The winds are the ex factor. We have a cabana around my pool that go absolutely shredded. We have some colored decorative balls outside. They are heavy. Basically small boulders. I found two of them in the pool. To move those would take a lot of power.Lack of water, and crazy winds.
But people on the internet doing the blame game thing is to be expected.
Lack of knowledge of how things work in the world should be criticized too.Lack of preparedness deserves to be criticized.
You have no idea what you are talking about. I told you- the fire chief is not in charge of water supply for the city. That would be a ludicrous task to assign to a fire chief. Whether the chief made it a "top priority" or not, it's not the Chief's responsibility.
But does the Fire Chief have much pull in terms of water supply?Lack of preparedness deserves to be criticized.
No. That was Newsom and Bass' job. They failed.But does the Fire Chief have much pull in terms of water supply?
Details?No one accused the chief of being in charge of the water supply. She's in charge of the force which her main focus, shall we say, was not producing the most well equipped fire fighters.
But to be clear, Newsome and Bass are in charge of the water supply. This was all very manageable with capable people. But we don't have that out here.
Didn't know who Bass was. Just googled her. LA Mayor. In addition to the Vacation, she also cut the fire fighter budget a couple months ago.No. That was Newsom and Bass' job. They failed.
Bass has some nerve. She went on what is essentially a vacation knowing these winds were coming. They are entirely predictable. And were. She's useless anyway. Should have stayed away.
Thank you for straightening out how municipalities, public utilities and emergency services operate. It has no place right now. Emergency service work with the resources they are provided, and they request more resources when needed, and are often denied. Mayor Bass also slashed $17Million from the LAFD budget. That's not the Fire Chief's fault either.No. That was Newsom and Bass' job. They failed.
Bass has some nerve. She went on what is essentially a vacation knowing these winds were coming. They are entirely predictable. And were. She's useless anyway. Should have stayed away.
Also reduced public works by $8.2M. That's for things like water supply.Didn't know who Bass was. Just googled her. LA Mayor. In addition to the Vacation, she also cut the fire fighter budget a couple months ago.
That's a bad look.
Also reduced public works by $8.2M. That's for things like water supply.
There is an ongoing debate about clearing out brush, but in the mountains and canyons, that is not an easy thing to do.
This didn't happen. We lose 90% of the water we get in the form of rain. In 2014 California voters overwhelmingly voted to invest billions in reservoir builds. The amount built? Zero.
Combine that with a reckless disregard of existing funds, such as the LA Mayor cutting roughly $20MM from the last fire budget and maybe those hydrants would have been pressurized. To say we were woefully unprepared would be an understatement. This was always going to happen.
As someone who is on the ground and who has numerous friends that have lost homes, to say the people are pissed would be an understatement.
Even better news, we are running out of water. Absolute colossal failure of the state and local government.
Majority of Californians will just vote those back into offices along with their empty promises.When you leave out here and see the devastation first hand, the lack of leadership becomes very obvious.
The government didn't build one reservoir with the tax money that got voted for. This wasn't hard. But they still didn't do it.
Under no circumstances should hydrants not work and be fully pressurized. This is basic governance and care.
There is going to be hell to pay.
I hope your family member is ok.Close relative of mine has been evacuated. Just spoke to them. If you don’t think California could be any worse get this. Authorities now have to divert resources to content with criminal gangs who are robbing residences not on fire but in the evacuated zones. This are high end neighborhoods and the criminals know the residents have left. They told me people just getting cleaned out.
Close relative of mine has been evacuated. Just spoke to them. If you don’t think California could be any worse get this. Authorities now have to divert resources to content with criminal gangs who are robbing residences not on fire but in the evacuated zones. This are high end neighborhoods and the criminals know the residents have left. They told me people just getting cleaned out.
Time to recall her ass!
And it's not like there haven't been other wildfires. Where's the prep? Where's the emergency planning? Where's the emergency resources? How is this surprising to anyone?When the proverbial dust settles there is going to be calls for her head. The optics, the delivery, the service, there is nothing she can do or say at this point to make people feel better.
People are going to be calling for her head and Newsom's too. The devastation is like nothing we've seen here.
Is the utility the reason why these resevoirs/dams have not been built? Or even started(if that is indeed the case)?
Any excuse to politicize stuff. It’s the government’s fault there were 99mph winds, right?
Why are they dry?No. But it is the government's fault the hydrants were dry.
Why are they dry?
Literally nothing is designed to handle things that happen once every 50 or 100 years in a given spot. When Mother Nature calls, it’s all going to sh*t. There is a design limit to the number of structure fires a given municipal fire system is designed to handle and then you are sol.No. But it is the government's fault the hydrants were dry.
Seems like you have quite the “hard on” for anyone who expresses an opinion that comes from the right, but when the same thing happens in the left you remain silentMore babble. Hilarious how the CE Board wingnuts are out in force, spinning like mad.
Right wing, left wing, who GAF. It’s all the same BS. You are hopelessly obsessed with that left/right BS. Pathetic.
I’m just to simple I guess.
How much is this fire going to cost ? 50 billion estimate so far
How much have previous fires cost ???
Why aren’t there 25 planes and 50 helicopters dropping water on fires non stop instead of seeing one plane and a helicopter or 2 every 20 mins ????
When I asked this question a few years back I read there are 3 planes and they cost too much . I don’t think 75 aircraft would cost 50 billion like they say this fire will cost