OT: New York Mets 2020-2021 Off Season Thread

[tico brown]

Jeezus Christ. This guy should get beat up for being so stupid.

Mets fire GM Porter; Cohen cites 'zero tolerance'

The Mets announced that they fired GM Jared Porter on Tuesday, one day after ESPN reported that Porter had sent explicit texts and images to a reporter in 2016.

www.espn.com

 

[Doctor Worm]

I'm guessing Porter should start looking for a new profession, clearly his baseball days are over!!!

I think his career can be rehabilitated but it will take time.

 

[Doctor Worm]

Jeezus Christ. This guy should get beat up for being so stupid.

Mets fire GM Porter; Cohen cites 'zero tolerance'

The Mets announced that they fired GM Jared Porter on Tuesday, one day after ESPN reported that Porter had sent explicit texts and images to a reporter in 2016.

www.espn.com

There is a certain irony in Steve Cohen talking about a zero tolerance policy toward sexual harassment.

 

[Ronnie_B]

I think his career can be rehabilitated but it will take time.

I think so too, but he'll probably never get close to making the salary he was getting as a MLB GM in NYC, at least not in baseball. That dick picture is going to cost him a fortune because if it was just the 62 texts, I think he would have survived.

 

[NickRU714]

I think so too, but he'll probably never get close to making the salary he was getting as a MLB GM in NYC, at least not in baseball. That dick picture is going to cost him a fortune because if it was just the 62 texts, I think he would have survived.

I just can't understand this mindset.
It is mental illness - delusions?
Or just being an @sshole who can't take a hint?

"I've sent this woman 61 texts that she has ignored. Hmm...what will break through? I know what she is waiting for!!! A d@ck pic!!"

 

[Ronnie_B]

I just can't understand this mindset.
It is mental illness - delusions?
Or just being an @sshole who can't take a hint?

"I've sent this woman 61 texts that she has ignored. Hmm...what will break through? I know what she is waiting for!!! A d@ck pic!!"

I suspect its a behavior issue, these actions are not that far removed from those that expose themselves in public to others.

 

[ouchmyknee]

Baseball front offices are filled with entitled douches. It’s the nature of the beast.

 

[RUfinally2008]

I think his career can be rehabilitated but it will take time.

So much talent out there, why would any organization take a chance with someone who doesn't drive in runs, throw strikeouts, TD passes or etc.

 

[Stem]

I think his career can be rehabilitated but it will take time.

Perhaps he can become AD or football coach at Tennessee

 

[RuBird]

Part I am not following. The story was held by ESPN all this time because they did not want the reporter to feel backlash. Why release now? Did she give them the OK?

 

[FrankZ]

Part I am not following. The story was held by ESPN all this time because they did not want the reporter to feel backlash. Why release now? Did she give them the OK?

I don’t get it either

 

[yesrutgers01]

I don’t get it either

Yes, she gave permission now

 

[RuBird]

Yes, she gave permission now

Why wait until now? Did she feel less likely now to feel backlash? Did she feel safer that her name would not get out there?

 

[Zak57]

Why wait until now? Did she feel less likely now to feel backlash? Did she feel safer that her name would not get out there?

She left the industry.

 

[rufeelinit]

She left the industry.

And she was motivated to make sure the same thing did not happen to someone else. You do wonder if ESPN kept going back to her as Porter climbed the ladder to encourage to take the story public.

 

[Kbee3]

Porter should be fired for being stupid and horny and putting that woman through a career changing situation. ESPN are scumbags for holding this for 5 years. Should've reported it right then and there. Since when they cared about consequences? Maybe that woman would still be in the business.

Kudos to whoever was charged with background checks on the candidates for Mets GM.

 

[RuBird]

And she was motivated to make sure the same thing did not happen to someone else. You do wonder if ESPN kept going back to her as Porter climbed the ladder to encourage to take the story public.

How motivated though?
Not enough to blow the whistle until she left the industry?

 

[Doctor Worm]

We should not be analyzing her motives on not coming forward sooner. We should commend her for coming forward now.

 

[RUfinally2008]

ESPN= lowlifes. They sat on this for 4 years, not exactly worried about other women this dirtbag might have used his position to take advantage of. I'm also very impressed with how so many are taking delight in the fact the Mets got caught with their pants down. Clearly, they have no wives, daughters or Granddaughters in their lives.

 

[RURM85]

We should not be analyzing her motives on not coming forward sooner. We should commend her for coming forward now.

Agree she should be commended. Also understand her difficulties of coming forward in 2016 as an international sports reporter from a country that may have different views on women's rights.

However, she let 5 years go by, 5 years of which she took the risk of being indirectly complicit of allowing Porter's behavior to continue, for him to harass and harm other women. As we know this type of behavior is typically not a one and done event. Understanding she was most likely afraid to take action, the right thing to do was dealing with this at the time of the harassment by reporting his behavior anonymously either to the Chicago Cubs organization and/or her own organization.

ESPN would also be indirectly complicit of any further sexual harassment by Porter. They had the information and also should have taken action instead of sitting on it and waiting to break the story for their own purposes. They could have contacted the Cubs organization and filed a report. The media's morality has been bankrupt for some time, however, that's probably a different thread.

 

[RuBird]

We should not be analyzing her motives on not coming forward sooner. We should commend her for coming forward now.

It isn’t one over the other. I can commend her for coming forward but still question why not sooner.

 

[tico brown]

Kudos to whoever was charged with background checks on the candidates for Mets GM.

How about the Cubs and Diamondbacks?

 

[Ronnie_B]

Apparently the reason she asked ESPN not to run with the story is she was going back to her native country that is still in the stone age when it comes to women's rights and all and she was fearful of the backlash she might endure. I guess maybe even found at fault.

 

[Doctor Worm]

Agree she should be commended. Also understand her difficulties of coming forward in 2016 as an international sports reporter from a country that may have different views on women's rights.

However, she let 5 years go by, 5 years of which she took the risk of being indirectly complicit of allowing Porter's behavior to continue, for him to harass and harm other women. As we know this type of behavior is typically not a one and done event. Understanding she was most likely afraid to take action, the right thing to do was dealing with this at the time of the harassment by reporting his behavior anonymously either to the Chicago Cubs organization and/or her own organization.

ESPN would also be indirectly complicit of any further sexual harassment by Porter. They had the information and also should have taken action instead of sitting on it and waiting to break the story for their own purposes. They could have contacted the Cubs organization and filed a report. The media's morality has been bankrupt for some time, however, that's probably a different thread.

I must take issue with your final paragraph. ESPN was holding the story at the woman's request. Only recently, under condition of anonymity, did she OK its release.

More importantly, your statement that "the media's morality has been bankrupt for some time" is an unsupportable generalization. Or in other words, fake news.

 

[Doctor Worm]

In Alderson's presser today, he said that they would not be hiring a new GM until after the season. Meaning that Asst. GM Zane Smith will get a one year audition.

 

[RUfinally2008]

Agree she should be commended. Also understand her difficulties of coming forward in 2016 as an international sports reporter from a country that may have different views on women's rights.

However, she let 5 years go by, 5 years of which she took the risk of being indirectly complicit of allowing Porter's behavior to continue, for him to harass and harm other women. As we know this type of behavior is typically not a one and done event. Understanding she was most likely afraid to take action, the right thing to do was dealing with this at the time of the harassment by reporting his behavior anonymously either to the Chicago Cubs organization and/or her own organization.

ESPN would also be indirectly complicit of any further sexual harassment by Porter. They had the information and also should have taken action instead of sitting on it and waiting to break the story for their own purposes. They could have contacted the Cubs organization and filed a report. The media's morality has been bankrupt for some time, however, that's probably a different thread.

100% agree!!!!

 

[WhiteBus]

Why wait until now? Did she feel less likely now to feel backlash? Did she feel safer that her name would not get out there?

Maybe she isn't working in that job and no longer in the US.
I find it disturbing is those on here blaming the victim for this not being public before. What a bunch of idiots!

 

[RURM85]

I must take issue with your final paragraph. ESPN was holding the story at the woman's request. Only recently, under condition of anonymity, did she OK its release.

More importantly, your statement that "the media's morality has been bankrupt for some time" is an unsupportable generalization. Or in other words, fake news.

I never said ESPN should run the story in 2016 without permission from the source. While not legally mandated, they could have intervened, protected the source and contactEd the Cubs organization with information on Porter’s sexual harassment Without divulging the reporter. That would have been the right thing to do morally.

The morality of media, or lack thereof, such as ESPN is an opinion of which we differ. Fake news has objectvity to it, of which is not opinion based. Thus, your post is fake news.

 

[Andy117]

I never said ESPN should run the story in 2016 without permission from the source. While not legally mandated, they could have intervened, protected the source and contactEd the Cubs organization with information on Porter’s sexual harassment Without divulging the reporter. That would have been the right thing to do morally.

The morality of media, or lack thereof, such as ESPN is an opinion of which we differ. Fake news has objectvity to it, of which is not opinion based. Thus, your post is fake news.

Tough to do while completely protecting the source.

 

[RURM85]

Tough to do while completely protecting the source.

Media pretty good at source protection due to their line of business. I’m sure back in the dark ages of 2016, the Cubs organization have a sexual harassment policy including ways to communicate complaints dealing with parties that wanted to remain anonymous.

 

[MadRU]

In Alderson's presser today, he said that they would not be hiring a new GM until after the season. Meaning that Asst. GM Zane Smith will get a one year audition.

Zane Smith? Zack Scott is Mets Senior VP

 

[Kbee3]

How about the Cubs and Diamondbacks?

Great. I'll address that in the Cubs or Diamondbacks thread on the board.

 

[tico brown]

Welp...

 

[tico brown]

Mets better Extend Conforto and/ or Lindor

 

[Doctor Worm]

We never offered.

 

[Doctor Worm]

Zane Smith? Zack Scott is Mets Senior VP

Wow I wasn't even close.

 

[FrankZ]

What a day :flush:

 

[BigEastPhil]

With Mets losing out or passing on Springer, here is what I see as viable for CF:

- Sign Bradley. I’m not a big Bradley fan

- Sign Ozuna for LF and have a defensive specialist for latter innings in CF to replace Nimmo. Or also sign Pillar and platoon with Nimmo

- Sign Pillar to 1 year deal

- Trade for a CF. Who is potentially available? Maybe Lorenzo Cain or Kevin Kiermaier?

Regardless, Signing Brad Hand is a must now.

Besides Lindor, where is the big free agent signing ?

 

[Kbee3]

With Mets losing out or passing on Springer, here is what I see as viable for CF:

- Sign Bradley. I’m not a big Bradley fan

- Sign Ozuna for LF and have a defensive specialist for latter innings in CF to replace Nimmo. Or also sign Pillar and platoon with Nimmo

- Sign Pillar to 1 year deal

- Trade for a CF. Who is potentially available? Maybe Lorenzo Cain or Kevin Kiermaier?

Regardless, Signing Brad Hand is a must now.

Besides Lindor, where is the big free agent signing ?

Jackie Bradley is an awesome defensive centerfielder.

 

[MadRU]

6 years 150 million