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OT: New York Mets 2020-2021 Off Season Thread

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With Mets losing out or passing on Springer, here is what I see as viable for CF:

- Sign Bradley. I’m not a big Bradley fan

- Sign Ozuna for LF and have a defensive specialist for latter innings in CF to replace Nimmo. Or also sign Pillar and platoon with Nimmo

- Sign Pillar to 1 year deal

- Trade for a CF. Who is potentially available? Maybe Lorenzo Cain or Kevin Kiermaier?

Regardless, Signing Brad Hand is a must now.

Besides Lindor, where is the big free agent signing ?
After we brought in Lindor, it looked like we were not going as desperate for Springer. And I have posted many times I was alright with the but...it does mean we better have Conforto on our team for the next 6-7 years and either sign Lindor or one of his counterparts next year. I’m not big on JBJ. but any other move seems like it should wait until final decision on DH.
Hand is the “must” now.
As for the big signing? Lindor, Carrasco trade was the big move. Everything else this off season was smart. I am more impressed with our moves then I would have been if we just dropped stupid money on some of these guys that may have handcuffed us for years.
Get me Hand and cross fingers for DH and then go get a defensive replacement for late innings in CF
 
After we brought in Lindor, it looked like we were not going as desperate for Springer. And I have posted many times I was alright with the but...it does mean we better have Conforto on our team for the next 6-7 years and either sign Lindor or one of his counterparts next year. I’m not big on JBJ. but any other move seems like it should wait until final decision on DH.
Hand is the “must” now.
As for the big signing? Lindor, Carrasco trade was the big move. Everything else this off season was smart. I am more impressed with our moves then I would have been if we just dropped stupid money on some of these guys that may have handcuffed us for years.
Get me Hand and cross fingers for DH and then go get a defensive replacement for late innings in CF

Still wouldn’t be surprised if we got another right handed hitter
 
Awful front office hire - CHECK
Missing out on their top FA target due to cost - CHECK

Are the Wilpon's still running the Mets? 😁
 
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Great. I'll address that in the Cubs or Diamondbacks thread on the board.
Welcome back to our board Kbee- I see that Kluber and DJ woke you up.

Anyway- not sure if ESPN had ever published that these text messages existed previously...I don't think they do. But, you may be aware that most background checks are NOT looking into every single text message a person has ever sent.
 
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"Mets once-aggressive pursuit of Springer downshifted significantly after Lindor trade" - Andy Martino

Since this is a college football board, we can say that Springer got recruited over.
 
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Have to put this into perspective. Prior to the Lindor trade, people would have been thrilled if we had only signed Springer without even knowing the Lindor trade was in the works. I’d take Lindor over Springer every day of the week.
 
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Pass on that deal. I would have liked him but with the DH uncertainty and the number of Mets we'll have to extend it just didn't make sense. Another starter for depth, bullpen arm, couple of bench bats and we're still a contender with Lindor and Carrasco additions.
 
Pass on that deal. I would have liked him but with the DH uncertainty and the number of Mets we'll have to extend it just didn't make sense. Another starter for depth, bullpen arm, couple of bench bats and we're still a contender with Lindor and Carrasco additions.
I'm thinking with the minor league contracts and the other Starters we added, we may be done there. For a bench bat- I am still curious which Drury we may see. Is he the guy that was about to take over 3B for the Yankees or the guy who came back from that injury? Would love an OF defensive replacement and Hand to finish up the off season.
But...with not getting Springer- Met's HAVE TO sign Conforto/Lindor/Noah to long term. Maybe ext deGrom as well
 
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Awful front office hire - CHECK
Missing out on their top FA target due to cost - CHECK

Are the Wilpon's still running the Mets? 😁
Home / Mets Thoughts / Opinion: Mets Are Still in Great Shape Even Without Springer
Opinion: Mets Are Still in Great Shape Even Without Springer
While they would have loved to slot Springer into center field everyday, this offseason has already been a success and there are plenty of moves yet to be made.
If the season were to start tomorrow, the Mets would comprise one of the best lineups in the National League with Dominic Smith in left field and Brandon Nimmo out in center.
MLB Network released their annual “Top 10 Left Fielders Right Now” last night, and Smith was ranked sixth on that list. Last week, Nimmo was ranked fifth on their “Top 10 Center Fielders Right Now”.
Considering the fact that Michael Conforto was ranked ninth on that same list for right fielders last year (and is coming off a career-year), it is fair to assume he will crack this year’s top-10 ranking as well.
With all that being said, can we really knock the Mets for not signing Springer when they already feature three top-10 outfielders at their respective positions?
There is no doubting that Springer would have been an excellent fit for the Mets, but they wanted to sign him on their terms and the Blue Jays needed him more. Now the Mets will pivot to some of their secondary options and luckily there is still plenty of talent to chose from.
Jackie Bradley Jr. has always been the top defensive center fielder on the market and as Metsmerized’s Mike Mayer reported weeks ago, the Mets have been in contact with the 30-year-old free agent.
New York could pair Bradley with Jake Marisnick, adding a pair of elite defensive outfielders who could form an exciting center field platoon. With the money that would have been allocated to Springer, the Mets could potentially land both Bradley and Marisnick, while still having some left over to spend on an elite reliever like Brad Hand.
Kike Hernandez has also been mentioned as a potential target for the Mets, as the former Dodger has thrived in a super utility role, with the ability to play everywhere but catcher.
Both the free agent and the trade market are currently saturated with talent, giving New York the freedom to explore all options and search for the best deals.
Let’s also not forget that 2021 is not the end all be all for this team. Steve Cohen expects to be competitive every year and without Springer on the books long-term, there is now even more room to extend players like Conforto and Francisco Lindor, while also being able to spend in free agency next offseason as well.
While it would have been great to see the Mets land yet another superstar this offseason, there is no reason to cry over spilled milk at this point. This franchise is in far better shape than they have been in some time and missing out on a single free agent does not change that in the slightest. Clearly, the Mets have had a great off season, and will continue to force other teams to pay more than they would have in the past with a Mets ownership ready to pay way more. Get used to the new owner on the block, and your jealously is showing more than a dress wearing women's undies in a wind storm.
 
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Are we moving off Davis at 3B? Or if we made a move like this- would we try to move him for prospects?
I'd rather Davis in left for no other reason than covering way more ground. Dom and Pete sharing 1st base and DH{not a fan} would be the perfect remedy of the current log jam of too many similar pieces on the team.
 
Would have to give up a major prospect haul that would kill off the system most likely. Doubt we go this direction.
Depends on how much the Reds want out of those contracts and if it's a total rebuild. Only so many teams out there with the uncertainty of the coming COVID season and the money able to sustain another lost revenue season!
 
Depends on how much the Reds want out of those contracts and if it's a total rebuild. Only so many teams out there with the uncertainty of the coming COVID season and the money able to sustain another lost revenue season!

I still think we'd have to give up a top 5 like Mauricio or Allan if not both. I think the Nats inquired and they were asking for one of their top 2.
 
At this point I think another frontline starter is a luxury rather than a necessity. Same with 3B. Am unwilling to spend a top 6 prospect on luxuries.
 
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Awful front office hire - CHECK
Missing out on their top FA target due to cost - CHECK

Are the Wilpon's still running the Mets? 😁
You are trying to stretch it hard...Front office hire was pretty much out of their control- as of 2 days ago, just about everyone agreed it was a solid hire. It does suck though
Missing on their top FA??? Lindor.Carrasco>>>>>Springer - we moved off him unless he did a DJ type deal. Smart move as we most likely don't extend Conforto next year if we sign Springer and keep Lindor

I wouldn't be going too much out on a limb to say that this off season for the Mets was a positive. And player moves were smart and professional.
 
I'd rather Davis in left for no other reason than covering way more ground. Dom and Pete sharing 1st base and DH{not a fan} would be the perfect remedy of the current log jam of too many similar pieces on the team.
I don't think anything happens until we know about DH...That changes everything. With DH, we have a need at either 3B or OF...If no DH, we can't take any of Alonso/Smith/Davis bats out of the lineup
 
My wild-ass guess... the universal DH is implemented for 2022, as part of the next Collective Bargaining Agreement. No universal DH for 2021.

BUT... that wild-ass guess does not take COVID into account. If MLB is again willing to make one-time changes due to COVID (I guess that makes them two-time changes), they may be willing to again throw in universal DH. That may depend on whether they again jerry-rig the schedule to minimize travel. If they do, and as a result they have a higher proportion of inter-league games (like last year), they may decide that standardized rules make sense.
 
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Closer to a Subway Series since 2000. As it stays now, the Mets in the toughest division in baseball are a pubic hair behind the Braves to win the NL East, according to Vegas! 😍 https://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/futures/
Hate to say, havent followed the Braves off season super close- they picked up Morton and Smiley...What other moves have happened for them this year?
They will be tough- they have some serious superstars. A couple of them had so-so 2020 and a couple had huge 2020...tough to get a read on them. Either going to be very good or just good. But I think we did close the gap some...
 
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According to Martino, Hand was close to signing with the Mets last week, and then he changed agents. Not sure what happened but I assume something did. Currently he is holding out for a "multi-year" contract (not sure how that is defined - does two count as multi?) and the Mets are balking.
 
If you sign Bauer long term to a big contract, it raises a few issues for me. One is if you give him more than Jake will that make it more likely Jake opts out of his contract forcing us to resign him at a higher annual cost? Secondly what does it say about resigning Thor? Can you also pay him and Bauer along with Jake? You would have over $300 million tied up in 3 pitchers. If Thor bounces back from surgery I would rather have him than Bauer. Finally signing Bauer means we lose a pick and signing pool money since he received a qualifying offer. Tough to restock the farm if you are giving up picks and international $$$. All things considered for me, Bauer at this point is not worth it as he likely also puts us over the luxury tax cap.
 
I have no interest in Bauer at over $20 mil per year. He has had 2 good years and 7 very average to almost bad years.
If we were going to drop cash for a long term that would put us over cap in years 2022- by resigning Conforto/Thor/Lindor etc...would have rather it be Springer
 
The more I read about Trevor Bauer the more I say hard pass. Seems prone to become a distraction. Maybe on a 1 year deal but that is unlikely. Rosenthal who has had accuracy issues lately has indicated the Mets interest has increased. I guess that phrasing is broad enough that he won't need to walk it back if nothing happens.
 
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The more I read about Trevor Bauer the more I say hard pass. Seems prone to become a distraction. Maybe on a 1 year deal but that is unlikely. Rosenthal who has had accuracy issues lately has indicated the Mets interest has increased. I guess that phrasing is broad enough that he won't need to walk it back if nothing happens.
Hard pass, let the Yankees sign him.
 
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